Linux vs Windows
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Hi anyone know where I can find articles on the differences about Linux and Windows, especially when looking for a web server. All the articles I find is loaded with opinions from people, I'd like to see the technical stuff. (no windows financed linux studies please!) tx
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Hi anyone know where I can find articles on the differences about Linux and Windows, especially when looking for a web server. All the articles I find is loaded with opinions from people, I'd like to see the technical stuff. (no windows financed linux studies please!) tx
The web server differences aren't the OS as much as they are the server app. Apache is the standard vby which all others are measured and is available ofor both Linux and Windows. Windows is a LOT more expensive to setup, and IIS appears to be the victim (or target) of every virus writer old enough to type. When you ask for differences between the two OS's, it's easy to find factual information, but the zealots from both camps will also filter factual info with bullshit, and it's YOUR job to filter that info stream. Now get to work! ------- sig starts "I've heard some drivers saying, 'We're going too fast here...'. If you're not here to race, go the hell home - don't come here and grumble about going too fast. Why don't you tie a kerosene rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001
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Hi anyone know where I can find articles on the differences about Linux and Windows, especially when looking for a web server. All the articles I find is loaded with opinions from people, I'd like to see the technical stuff. (no windows financed linux studies please!) tx
I agree with John Simmons. You need to filter what you hear. I'll respond with this advice based on experience. I have a lot of knowledge of Linux and supporting applications. I run a site that gets 4.5 million pageviews per month on a 1.2 ghz machine. It is running Redhat 9, Apache 2.0, mod_perl, and PostgreSQL. Runs like a champ and it is free. However, I would recommend sticking with IIS. Just keep the latest securtity patches on there. Spend the extra money on Windows Server 2003. Later buy SQL server. After developing in ASP.NET I cannot start a new mod_perl or even PHP project. It makes no sense to spend time doing mundane programming tasks... even when you build libraries, it does not match the visual interface VS2003 offers. Double-clicking server components and automatically wiring to events is a dream come true. Do what you want. Here's my site written stictly using open-source software. I'll never do it again. http://www.epilogue.net[^] X| Spam Whitelist Plugin for Outlook and Outlook Express (I didnt write it but I use it) Microsoft .NET - Come on! I need the Traffic!
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Hi anyone know where I can find articles on the differences about Linux and Windows, especially when looking for a web server. All the articles I find is loaded with opinions from people, I'd like to see the technical stuff. (no windows financed linux studies please!) tx
Both are used for high volume mission critical sites. Do the comparition yourself and decide what you like better. Remember, the hard part of setting up a website isn't the configuration interface, it is knowing how to configure it. Windows generally beats linux in the interface, but linux generally gives someone who knows what he is doing more options. (however there are options linux doesn't give you that windows does) If you know what you are doing either will work, if you don't windows makes it easier to shoot yourself in the foot. Open source is free, which might be a factor, but overall the cost of software isn't that significant. Open source gives you source code which might be a factor. (this being code project that is more likely) However making use of the source code is not easy, if you count your time it makes open source more exensive than microsoft. Still if you need something nobody gives you it is the easist way to start. Anything technial depends on hardware and your exact setup. A test serving static pages isn't useful if your pages are all dynamicly generated. If you have a large database on the backend, the quality/speed of your database server is most important. (MySQL is often the fastest database server because they intentionally don't support some critical SQL functions. PostgresSQL supports most critical functions, but commercial servers beat it) However if you discover a database that supports all your requirements, and is fast enough of some hardware it doesn't matter that you can buy a faster database. Don't forget that in addition to linux there is FreeBSD, and OpenBSD. The former is designed more to be a server OS, so it might do a little better. (not much, but if you are a BSD guy like me you prefer it to linux) The latter is out of the box the most secure OS I know of (they make a lot of trade offs to get this though, and they may or may not matter). For a set it and forget it site, I'd trust nothing other than OpenBSD. 1 hole in 8 years speaks for itself. However if you do regualr backups, keep up to date with patches, and in generall check up the site daily you do not need this. (Even with OpenBSD you need to update every 6 months, since they don't count holes discovered after a new version is released, and you never know when the next hole might be found) Everything else is personal preference. Any technical advantage one has, the other has a different one to counter with.
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I agree with John Simmons. You need to filter what you hear. I'll respond with this advice based on experience. I have a lot of knowledge of Linux and supporting applications. I run a site that gets 4.5 million pageviews per month on a 1.2 ghz machine. It is running Redhat 9, Apache 2.0, mod_perl, and PostgreSQL. Runs like a champ and it is free. However, I would recommend sticking with IIS. Just keep the latest securtity patches on there. Spend the extra money on Windows Server 2003. Later buy SQL server. After developing in ASP.NET I cannot start a new mod_perl or even PHP project. It makes no sense to spend time doing mundane programming tasks... even when you build libraries, it does not match the visual interface VS2003 offers. Double-clicking server components and automatically wiring to events is a dream come true. Do what you want. Here's my site written stictly using open-source software. I'll never do it again. http://www.epilogue.net[^] X| Spam Whitelist Plugin for Outlook and Outlook Express (I didnt write it but I use it) Microsoft .NET - Come on! I need the Traffic!
Wow! I want to say something but i just don't know what. On Linux did you ever try the Tomcat engine with Apache and use Servlets/JSP? I have not worked with Linux Web Server or Apache (since IIS 3) but i have done Servlets/JSP with Tomcat on Windows and while it's not VS 2003 and ASP.NET it wasn't bad.
"No matter where you go, there your are." - Buckaroo Banzai
-pete
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Wow! I want to say something but i just don't know what. On Linux did you ever try the Tomcat engine with Apache and use Servlets/JSP? I have not worked with Linux Web Server or Apache (since IIS 3) but i have done Servlets/JSP with Tomcat on Windows and while it's not VS 2003 and ASP.NET it wasn't bad.
"No matter where you go, there your are." - Buckaroo Banzai
-pete
palbano wrote: Wow! I want to say something but i just don't know what. Are you impressed or appalled? :confused: Spam Whitelist Plugin for Outlook and Outlook Express (I didnt write it but I use it) Microsoft .NET - Come on! I need the Traffic!
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palbano wrote: Wow! I want to say something but i just don't know what. Are you impressed or appalled? :confused: Spam Whitelist Plugin for Outlook and Outlook Express (I didnt write it but I use it) Microsoft .NET - Come on! I need the Traffic!
Totally impressed. I even gave you a 5 for it! It just seems very uncommon to find someone that worked in a non-microsoft environment for any length of time to express positive opinions about Microsoft products. sorry for the confusion it's a state i constantly live in.
"No matter where you go, there your are." - Buckaroo Banzai
-pete
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Totally impressed. I even gave you a 5 for it! It just seems very uncommon to find someone that worked in a non-microsoft environment for any length of time to express positive opinions about Microsoft products. sorry for the confusion it's a state i constantly live in.
"No matter where you go, there your are." - Buckaroo Banzai
-pete
Well, thank you! I have no problem with linux. Microsoft won me over because it did one thing: made my job easier and more enjoyable. It comes at a cost, one that I feel is well worth it. At my University I constantly heard Microsoft-bashing from the professors and students. I guess the "jokes" just got old. Having experience in the industry prior to going to college, I kept thinking "these guys are denying themselves a ton of money" because of their problem with "the man." Having conservative political values, I am also not envious of those (both companies and people) better off than I am. I respect, admire, and strive to become better as well. I felt the entire time I was there a great deal of anger and envy and it sickened me. I guess I was doing the same thing as they THOUGHT they were doing... going against the grain. While they felt it was conforming to become a Microsoft fanatic, I knew it was conforming to be a Microsoft critic. Despite what you feel about the company, one thing is certain. They made superior products that all work together, making me happier and more productive. Anyone chosing to go with Linux is welcome to ask for my help, though. I'm more than happy to give anyone a hand. :-D Spam Whitelist Plugin for Outlook and Outlook Express (I didnt write it but I use it) Microsoft .NET - Come on! I need the Traffic!
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Hi anyone know where I can find articles on the differences about Linux and Windows, especially when looking for a web server. All the articles I find is loaded with opinions from people, I'd like to see the technical stuff. (no windows financed linux studies please!) tx
It really depends what sort of files you want to serve. When it comes down to it, a web server is very simple. A guru C# programmer could knock together a working web server in under a day. The point being that the value in a web server is in the extras that come with it, not in the simple task of serving HTTP files. Decide what you want out of a web server, then decide which tool fits your needs. PS: There is an ASP.NET module for Apache, which means that you can now run ASP.NET apps on a Linux server.
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It really depends what sort of files you want to serve. When it comes down to it, a web server is very simple. A guru C# programmer could knock together a working web server in under a day. The point being that the value in a web server is in the extras that come with it, not in the simple task of serving HTTP files. Decide what you want out of a web server, then decide which tool fits your needs. PS: There is an ASP.NET module for Apache, which means that you can now run ASP.NET apps on a Linux server.
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Steven Campbell wrote: A guru C# programmer could knock together a working web server in under a day. lol, I'm only an average c programmer and I could do it in an hour. ;P Legalize Marijuana
