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    Jeff Bogan
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    I am starting up a car stored for the winter (and spring) This is something I haven't done before. I have had a terrible time getting it started - it turns out that, according to the people at Crappy Tire, Gasoline has a shelf life of two or three months, after which it needs to be replaced or diluted with new gas. Anyone with similar experiences?

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      I am starting up a car stored for the winter (and spring) This is something I haven't done before. I have had a terrible time getting it started - it turns out that, according to the people at Crappy Tire, Gasoline has a shelf life of two or three months, after which it needs to be replaced or diluted with new gas. Anyone with similar experiences?

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      Jeremy Falcon
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      Yeah, never store a vehicle with gas in it. It'll ruin the gas tank if you leave it stored for years. I learned this lesson the hard way when I got my first motorcycle. Needless to say, I had to get a new gas tank for it. Jeremy Falcon

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        I am starting up a car stored for the winter (and spring) This is something I haven't done before. I have had a terrible time getting it started - it turns out that, according to the people at Crappy Tire, Gasoline has a shelf life of two or three months, after which it needs to be replaced or diluted with new gas. Anyone with similar experiences?

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        wrykyn
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        You should have drained the tank before storing the car. Too late now. I'm not tooo sure what you should do but I think it probably won't be such a big deal since it was not over a year "I believe I referred to her personality as a potential science exhibit." - Elaine, about Ellen, in "The Dog"

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          I am starting up a car stored for the winter (and spring) This is something I haven't done before. I have had a terrible time getting it started - it turns out that, according to the people at Crappy Tire, Gasoline has a shelf life of two or three months, after which it needs to be replaced or diluted with new gas. Anyone with similar experiences?

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          Yes. Gasoline is quite volatile as as such breaks down fast. I have had similar problems with things like lawn mowers. The people at Can-T are actually right on this one. I suggest a fuel-stabilizer. You can buy it at (conveniently) Can-T. Pour it in your gas tank as per instructions and it helps to stabilize the fuel over long periods of time. BTW, letting a car sit like that for a long time is murder on the fuel injectors...and the gas lines... John Theal Physicist at Large Got CAD? http://www.presenter3d.com[^]

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            Yes. Gasoline is quite volatile as as such breaks down fast. I have had similar problems with things like lawn mowers. The people at Can-T are actually right on this one. I suggest a fuel-stabilizer. You can buy it at (conveniently) Can-T. Pour it in your gas tank as per instructions and it helps to stabilize the fuel over long periods of time. BTW, letting a car sit like that for a long time is murder on the fuel injectors...and the gas lines... John Theal Physicist at Large Got CAD? http://www.presenter3d.com[^]

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            John Theal wrote: BTW, letting a car sit like that for a long time is murder on the fuel injectors...and the gas lines... Yes, the gas lines are filled up with gas for the life time of a car. Same for fuel injectors. Very funny. I don't believe sometime what people think when it comes to cars. Never write such a stuff in a car forum. Here probably no one notice this. Jürgen Eidt http://cpicture.de/en [^]

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              John Theal wrote: BTW, letting a car sit like that for a long time is murder on the fuel injectors...and the gas lines... Yes, the gas lines are filled up with gas for the life time of a car. Same for fuel injectors. Very funny. I don't believe sometime what people think when it comes to cars. Never write such a stuff in a car forum. Here probably no one notice this. Jürgen Eidt http://cpicture.de/en [^]

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              Jeff Bogan
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              That's BS - I've always heard of poeple storing their cars for the winter, and I have never heard of this gasoline problem. I have been doing some reading and it seems that recent gasoline is much different from that a few years ago. It's actually a blend of many additives now. Before it was a just hydrocarbons all between C4 and C11 in the petroleum cracking process. Now to improve fuel efficiency they have down all these unholy things to it to improve volatility, and environmental friendliness, which now also leads to highly accelerated oxidation. And what are you suggesting, hide and be embarased about it? This is how we have to do to circulate information like this so it doesn't happen to you. And also because to the only way to get anything other than stupid marketing crap information out of a company is to stick your finger down their throats.

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                That's BS - I've always heard of poeple storing their cars for the winter, and I have never heard of this gasoline problem. I have been doing some reading and it seems that recent gasoline is much different from that a few years ago. It's actually a blend of many additives now. Before it was a just hydrocarbons all between C4 and C11 in the petroleum cracking process. Now to improve fuel efficiency they have down all these unholy things to it to improve volatility, and environmental friendliness, which now also leads to highly accelerated oxidation. And what are you suggesting, hide and be embarased about it? This is how we have to do to circulate information like this so it doesn't happen to you. And also because to the only way to get anything other than stupid marketing crap information out of a company is to stick your finger down their throats.

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                Jurgen Eidt
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                You should then not reply to me. I know that winter storage is not a big deal. You should work on this reply: John Theal wrote: BTW, letting a car sit like that for a long time is murder on the fuel injectors...and the gas lines... Jürgen Eidt http://cpicture.de/en [^]

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                  I am starting up a car stored for the winter (and spring) This is something I haven't done before. I have had a terrible time getting it started - it turns out that, according to the people at Crappy Tire, Gasoline has a shelf life of two or three months, after which it needs to be replaced or diluted with new gas. Anyone with similar experiences?

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                  Matt Newman
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                  Get some ocatane booster and or some gasoline stabilizer. Should help a little bit, and as soon as you can get a fresh tank of gas. You may want to take it to a garage and get the injectors cleaned too. [EDIT]If you store it for the winter again and don't want to drain the tank just find a stabalizer to put in the tank while you store it. I wouldn't recommend keeping a full tank so as soon as you pull it out you can put some high-octane fuel in to counter act the older gas. Matt Newman
                  What is your malfunction? - Dangeresque, too?

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                    Yeah, never store a vehicle with gas in it. It'll ruin the gas tank if you leave it stored for years. I learned this lesson the hard way when I got my first motorcycle. Needless to say, I had to get a new gas tank for it. Jeremy Falcon

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                    Marcus_2
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                    Jeremy Falcon wrote: Yeah, never store a vehicle with gas in it. It'll ruin the gas tank if you leave it stored for years. if you store it for a lot of years that might be true. But if the tank is made of metal and the car is subject to diffrences in temperature during storage (ie, non-heated garage in colder regions) the tank should be full when you put it away. The reaseon? A little thingy called condensation wich can lead to the tank rusting from within. I have one of my cars put away every autum the last years and have it stored in a non-heated garage where it's safe from the wind, rain etc but not the temperature (lowest the car has been in is -30 degrees Celcius). The car is not much modified when it comes to the engine, but enough to only run on high octane fuel. So the soultion for me is to not thrash it the first 500 km's, after that it's usually time for the first track day of the year.:-D

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