Microsoft's politics
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I can't believe the way how Microsoft treats the EU and Japan. It's funny that you can order the VS beta in Vietnam or Chile and many other countries (I bet Bill Gates and the other headers who decide those things haven't ever even heard about many of them), but You can't order it in the EU or Japan. And the even more funny thing is that most of the developed countries which it doesn't show any care about still order Microsoft products when they could replace most of it with Suse or Borland or the products of many other companies. I wonder how much more profit Microsoft makes from Peru than from Germany and the many other countries it doesn't care about. I hope this effor will enlight the politics and managers who decides about what software they should order, but well, actually I know it won't. But at least we, the citizens microsoft doesnt care about can do something about that, when decide which software we buy from which company. We mustn't make a company, which doesn't care at all about us, stronger and richer!:mad::mad::mad:
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I can't believe the way how Microsoft treats the EU and Japan. It's funny that you can order the VS beta in Vietnam or Chile and many other countries (I bet Bill Gates and the other headers who decide those things haven't ever even heard about many of them), but You can't order it in the EU or Japan. And the even more funny thing is that most of the developed countries which it doesn't show any care about still order Microsoft products when they could replace most of it with Suse or Borland or the products of many other companies. I wonder how much more profit Microsoft makes from Peru than from Germany and the many other countries it doesn't care about. I hope this effor will enlight the politics and managers who decides about what software they should order, but well, actually I know it won't. But at least we, the citizens microsoft doesnt care about can do something about that, when decide which software we buy from which company. We mustn't make a company, which doesn't care at all about us, stronger and richer!:mad::mad::mad:
Read the article down below about piracy in software, maybe that has something to do with it? The study suggests that pirated software makes up the majority of the market in many Central and Eastern European countries, including Latvia, Lithuania and Poland. The high rate of piracy in these states can be explained, in part, because decades of socialism left them without the legislation, institutions and experience necessary to protect intellectual property rights. Although these countries were required to develop a legal framework to protect the rights of software publishers as part of their accession to the EU, enforcement resources remain limited and a legal culture that respects intellectual property rights is still developing. This excuse is not available in Greece, however, where 63 per cent of software is unlicensed.
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I can't believe the way how Microsoft treats the EU and Japan. It's funny that you can order the VS beta in Vietnam or Chile and many other countries (I bet Bill Gates and the other headers who decide those things haven't ever even heard about many of them), but You can't order it in the EU or Japan. And the even more funny thing is that most of the developed countries which it doesn't show any care about still order Microsoft products when they could replace most of it with Suse or Borland or the products of many other companies. I wonder how much more profit Microsoft makes from Peru than from Germany and the many other countries it doesn't care about. I hope this effor will enlight the politics and managers who decides about what software they should order, but well, actually I know it won't. But at least we, the citizens microsoft doesnt care about can do something about that, when decide which software we buy from which company. We mustn't make a company, which doesn't care at all about us, stronger and richer!:mad::mad::mad:
I partly agree with you rutkarin. I was also very angry about the fact not to find Germany or any other EU-country in the list....though I don't think that flaming like u did is the right way.
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I can't believe the way how Microsoft treats the EU and Japan. It's funny that you can order the VS beta in Vietnam or Chile and many other countries (I bet Bill Gates and the other headers who decide those things haven't ever even heard about many of them), but You can't order it in the EU or Japan. And the even more funny thing is that most of the developed countries which it doesn't show any care about still order Microsoft products when they could replace most of it with Suse or Borland or the products of many other companies. I wonder how much more profit Microsoft makes from Peru than from Germany and the many other countries it doesn't care about. I hope this effor will enlight the politics and managers who decides about what software they should order, but well, actually I know it won't. But at least we, the citizens microsoft doesnt care about can do something about that, when decide which software we buy from which company. We mustn't make a company, which doesn't care at all about us, stronger and richer!:mad::mad::mad:
flaming here will make no difference ... if those responsible would listen to customer sentiments then the flames wouldnt be necessary best u just chill out and make your own buying decisions based upon what u feel is right for you ... like the rest of us do :)
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I can't believe the way how Microsoft treats the EU and Japan. It's funny that you can order the VS beta in Vietnam or Chile and many other countries (I bet Bill Gates and the other headers who decide those things haven't ever even heard about many of them), but You can't order it in the EU or Japan. And the even more funny thing is that most of the developed countries which it doesn't show any care about still order Microsoft products when they could replace most of it with Suse or Borland or the products of many other companies. I wonder how much more profit Microsoft makes from Peru than from Germany and the many other countries it doesn't care about. I hope this effor will enlight the politics and managers who decides about what software they should order, but well, actually I know it won't. But at least we, the citizens microsoft doesnt care about can do something about that, when decide which software we buy from which company. We mustn't make a company, which doesn't care at all about us, stronger and richer!:mad::mad::mad:
If it makes good business sense to make a beta product available in a country, Microsoft will do so. If there is a reason to not make that beta product available, they won't. It's that simple. Here's a cold, hard fact to add to your worldview: Microsoft doesn't care about you. It doesn't care about me, or developers in Japan, or Germany, or anywhere. With the release of a beta product, they care about the kind of feedback they get, and the cost of supporting the beta process for that product. They care about how the results of the beta process affect the final product, and the financial returns from the sale of that product. Nothing else.
Software Zen:
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If it makes good business sense to make a beta product available in a country, Microsoft will do so. If there is a reason to not make that beta product available, they won't. It's that simple. Here's a cold, hard fact to add to your worldview: Microsoft doesn't care about you. It doesn't care about me, or developers in Japan, or Germany, or anywhere. With the release of a beta product, they care about the kind of feedback they get, and the cost of supporting the beta process for that product. They care about how the results of the beta process affect the final product, and the financial returns from the sale of that product. Nothing else.
Software Zen:
delete this;You could argue that MS doesn't care about you, but only in the sense that no company actually cares about people. The company itself is the servent of its shareholders and will do what the shareholders want. That said, MS is full of multitudes of people who do care deeply about the individuals who use their products. For many, like myself, it's one of the most important reasons we develop software (the others being that it's fun, it's a great challenge, and heck you might just be able to make the world a better place doing it). The reason I care about feedback is because I truly want to make the most amazing product possible, and I have a better chance of doing that if I know how people feel. It's not about money. If I had my way I would then give it away for free to everyone, and that's something that I'm trying very hard to get done! :-) If you visit http://blogs.msdn.com/ you'll see tons of MS people who care so much about the community that they've taken on the additional role of interacting and bringing transparency of our processes because we care a lot and we feel that in the past we weren't doing enough for you. -- Cyrus (http://blogs.msdn.com/cyrusn)
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I can't believe the way how Microsoft treats the EU and Japan. It's funny that you can order the VS beta in Vietnam or Chile and many other countries (I bet Bill Gates and the other headers who decide those things haven't ever even heard about many of them), but You can't order it in the EU or Japan. And the even more funny thing is that most of the developed countries which it doesn't show any care about still order Microsoft products when they could replace most of it with Suse or Borland or the products of many other companies. I wonder how much more profit Microsoft makes from Peru than from Germany and the many other countries it doesn't care about. I hope this effor will enlight the politics and managers who decides about what software they should order, but well, actually I know it won't. But at least we, the citizens microsoft doesnt care about can do something about that, when decide which software we buy from which company. We mustn't make a company, which doesn't care at all about us, stronger and richer!:mad::mad::mad:
hey bro, you're lucky MS goes through all the hassle to even ship products to your sorry a$$. If you don't like it, why don't you head-up a government-funded SociBSD project or something. Stuff it or get off the train. OP
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If it makes good business sense to make a beta product available in a country, Microsoft will do so. If there is a reason to not make that beta product available, they won't. It's that simple. Here's a cold, hard fact to add to your worldview: Microsoft doesn't care about you. It doesn't care about me, or developers in Japan, or Germany, or anywhere. With the release of a beta product, they care about the kind of feedback they get, and the cost of supporting the beta process for that product. They care about how the results of the beta process affect the final product, and the financial returns from the sale of that product. Nothing else.
Software Zen:
delete this;Gary R. Wheeler wrote: If it makes good business sense to make a beta product available in a country, Microsoft will do so. If there is a reason to not make that beta product available, they won't. It's that simple. That's the very reason I said: "I wonder how much more profit Microsoft makes from Peru than from Germany and the many other countries it doesn't care about." I meant that the citizens of the countries Microsoft just debared yet from its beta pay more money to it than many they allowed to participate. Microsoft actually made business handicap to these people because they cant get the new techs as soon as other do. And that's why I suggested to replace its softwares when we are able to select from another company which more thankful to people who pay for its software. And yes, even if they don't care about us, they care about money BUT still they do care about europe because they know it means them a lot of money and if they just piss the people of it, that might be wrong for their business! So if we buy the software of a company, we make it stronger and greater. When you buy a new software and have to choose from several, the decision is up to you whether you make stronger a company which gives you about the same oppurtonity as it gives to other people in other countries, or another, to which your country (so you as a taxpayer and by great chance even as a personal customer) already paid very much money (that's what I meant by: "And the even more funny thing is that most of the developed countries which it doesn't show any care about still order Microsoft products when they could replace most of it... ") and it still gives better oppurtonities to people in countries which hardly pay anything to it. You know, most of companies are thankful if you buy their products instead of other ones, so here's a sily example: There are two companies A which thankful to people who buy its products and try to reward them and B which doesn't care WHO buy its software and who does not AND especially makes YOU handicap when it can even if YOU bought its software(that's if you are from Europe or Japan or from somewhere else where microsoft gets much much money). If you choose B and so make it stronger then A will reward people in other places where it gets money from. And if you're unlucky (european or japanese) B will just piss you doesn't care about you give it money. If you choose A, it'll reward you and you make stronger a company which DOES care about y
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If it makes good business sense to make a beta product available in a country, Microsoft will do so. If there is a reason to not make that beta product available, they won't. It's that simple. Here's a cold, hard fact to add to your worldview: Microsoft doesn't care about you. It doesn't care about me, or developers in Japan, or Germany, or anywhere. With the release of a beta product, they care about the kind of feedback they get, and the cost of supporting the beta process for that product. They care about how the results of the beta process affect the final product, and the financial returns from the sale of that product. Nothing else.
Software Zen:
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