RealONE opinions?
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I was getting sick of WMPXP (Windows Media Player XP) and decided to hunt around for another media player. I came across RealONE and after setting it to download overnight have just installed it. So far so good. The interface is really asthetic, much like the Quicktime 5 UI which I love. It can play all the usual formats and has a whole lot of other stuff built in which I wont use (you pay $9.95 a month and get 125 downloads of music, video, radio, etc. etc.) but the actual is pretty cool so far. Has anyone else used it? Any opinions (apart from my initial reaction of "damn Real software sucks") on it? I actually wouldn't mind paying $9.95 a month, that is if my bandwidth did not suck so badly that I could actually download music at a reasonable rate :) regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass Cape Town, South Africa Do you Sonork? I do! 100.9903 Stormfront "The greatest thing you will ever learn is to love, and be loved in return" - Moulin Rouge
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I was getting sick of WMPXP (Windows Media Player XP) and decided to hunt around for another media player. I came across RealONE and after setting it to download overnight have just installed it. So far so good. The interface is really asthetic, much like the Quicktime 5 UI which I love. It can play all the usual formats and has a whole lot of other stuff built in which I wont use (you pay $9.95 a month and get 125 downloads of music, video, radio, etc. etc.) but the actual is pretty cool so far. Has anyone else used it? Any opinions (apart from my initial reaction of "damn Real software sucks") on it? I actually wouldn't mind paying $9.95 a month, that is if my bandwidth did not suck so badly that I could actually download music at a reasonable rate :) regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass Cape Town, South Africa Do you Sonork? I do! 100.9903 Stormfront "The greatest thing you will ever learn is to love, and be loved in return" - Moulin Rouge
Just figured that RealONE player has this really awesome fade-in and fade-out effect between songs. So there is no stop or skip between two songs, like being at a club! I know it is a simple thing but what a great feature! :-D (yes, like a kid in a candy store) regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass Cape Town, South Africa Do you Sonork? I do! 100.9903 Stormfront "The greatest thing you will ever learn is to love, and be loved in return" - Moulin Rouge
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Just figured that RealONE player has this really awesome fade-in and fade-out effect between songs. So there is no stop or skip between two songs, like being at a club! I know it is a simple thing but what a great feature! :-D (yes, like a kid in a candy store) regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass Cape Town, South Africa Do you Sonork? I do! 100.9903 Stormfront "The greatest thing you will ever learn is to love, and be loved in return" - Moulin Rouge
Have you not tried Winamp? I've been using it for years and although I've tried loads of different media players, I always come back to winamp. Winamp 3 (which is still in beta) will have a component for displaying video also so it's not just audio now. James Spibey I love the word naked, it's brilliant isn't it, 'naked'. When I was a kid I used to write the word naked on a bit of paper hundreds of times and rub my face in it - Jeff, Coupling, BBC2
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Have you not tried Winamp? I've been using it for years and although I've tried loads of different media players, I always come back to winamp. Winamp 3 (which is still in beta) will have a component for displaying video also so it's not just audio now. James Spibey I love the word naked, it's brilliant isn't it, 'naked'. When I was a kid I used to write the word naked on a bit of paper hundreds of times and rub my face in it - Jeff, Coupling, BBC2
James Spibey wrote: Have you not tried Winamp? LOL of course I have, I would not be a techy if I had not now would I? I have used Winamp for years as well and never looked elsewhere until recently. My main problem with Winamp is that it has a very poor playlist and a virtually non-existent media library. I know Winamp 3 tries to solve this but IMHO it is not well thought out media library. I hated fiddling with loading and creating playlists in Winamp, it was just too cumbersone. In contracts WMP makes all of that so easy and very slick. RealONE does an even better job of it (so I am finding out). So as much as I liked Winamp and liked supporting the "underdog" I can't go back to it until they make an integrated media player, not a bunch of floating windows which all work oddly. Have you tried WMP or RealONE? :-D Come to the dark side Spibey... regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass Cape Town, South Africa Do you Sonork? I do! 100.9903 Stormfront "The greatest thing you will ever learn is to love, and be loved in return" - Moulin Rouge
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James Spibey wrote: Have you not tried Winamp? LOL of course I have, I would not be a techy if I had not now would I? I have used Winamp for years as well and never looked elsewhere until recently. My main problem with Winamp is that it has a very poor playlist and a virtually non-existent media library. I know Winamp 3 tries to solve this but IMHO it is not well thought out media library. I hated fiddling with loading and creating playlists in Winamp, it was just too cumbersone. In contracts WMP makes all of that so easy and very slick. RealONE does an even better job of it (so I am finding out). So as much as I liked Winamp and liked supporting the "underdog" I can't go back to it until they make an integrated media player, not a bunch of floating windows which all work oddly. Have you tried WMP or RealONE? :-D Come to the dark side Spibey... regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass Cape Town, South Africa Do you Sonork? I do! 100.9903 Stormfront "The greatest thing you will ever learn is to love, and be loved in return" - Moulin Rouge
Paul Watson wrote: Have you tried WMP or RealONE? Come to the dark side Spibey... LOL. As far as I'm concerned, anything by Real Networks is totally evil and I refuse to touch it. I take your point about Winamp 3. It is a bit pants. I've long been disappointed with Winamp 2's playlist so I wrote my own plugin to manage my media collection which is almost ready for world consumption. The coolest thing about my plugin is that it has an autoplay mode where it selects tracks from my extensive audio collection for me to listen to. So I just walk in, hit autoplay, and it figures out what to play me. And no, it doesn't just do a rand() on my audio collection, it chooses tracks far more intelligently than that. ;) James Spibey I love the word naked, it's brilliant isn't it, 'naked'. When I was a kid I used to write the word naked on a bit of paper hundreds of times and rub my face in it - Jeff, Coupling, BBC2
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Paul Watson wrote: Have you tried WMP or RealONE? Come to the dark side Spibey... LOL. As far as I'm concerned, anything by Real Networks is totally evil and I refuse to touch it. I take your point about Winamp 3. It is a bit pants. I've long been disappointed with Winamp 2's playlist so I wrote my own plugin to manage my media collection which is almost ready for world consumption. The coolest thing about my plugin is that it has an autoplay mode where it selects tracks from my extensive audio collection for me to listen to. So I just walk in, hit autoplay, and it figures out what to play me. And no, it doesn't just do a rand() on my audio collection, it chooses tracks far more intelligently than that. ;) James Spibey I love the word naked, it's brilliant isn't it, 'naked'. When I was a kid I used to write the word naked on a bit of paper hundreds of times and rub my face in it - Jeff, Coupling, BBC2
James Spibey wrote: LOL. As far as I'm concerned, anything by Real Networks is totally evil and I refuse to touch it. Up till this morning I whole heartedly agreed with that. Real Player, Jukebox, Download etc. etc. were up there with Gonzo The Purple Monkey and Code Red viruses. RealONE though is rabidly changing my mind, it is pretty damned cool. I still don't like Real much though, they try every tactic in tricking you into buying the app. Finding the free (14 day trial actually) version of RealONE was a bit hard. James Spibey wrote: so I wrote my own plugin to manage my media collection which is almost ready for world consumption Very cool, any firm release date? I will be sure to try it out. James Spibey wrote: And no, it doesn't just do a rand() on my audio collection, it chooses tracks far more intelligently than that. :omg: you mean it will hook into my Mood Ring and play the appropriate music? Woooohoooo! :-D Or is it more like Bill Gate's house? Just curious actually :) regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass Cape Town, South Africa Do you Sonork? I do! 100.9903 Stormfront "The greatest thing you will ever learn is to love, and be loved in return" - Moulin Rouge
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James Spibey wrote: LOL. As far as I'm concerned, anything by Real Networks is totally evil and I refuse to touch it. Up till this morning I whole heartedly agreed with that. Real Player, Jukebox, Download etc. etc. were up there with Gonzo The Purple Monkey and Code Red viruses. RealONE though is rabidly changing my mind, it is pretty damned cool. I still don't like Real much though, they try every tactic in tricking you into buying the app. Finding the free (14 day trial actually) version of RealONE was a bit hard. James Spibey wrote: so I wrote my own plugin to manage my media collection which is almost ready for world consumption Very cool, any firm release date? I will be sure to try it out. James Spibey wrote: And no, it doesn't just do a rand() on my audio collection, it chooses tracks far more intelligently than that. :omg: you mean it will hook into my Mood Ring and play the appropriate music? Woooohoooo! :-D Or is it more like Bill Gate's house? Just curious actually :) regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass Cape Town, South Africa Do you Sonork? I do! 100.9903 Stormfront "The greatest thing you will ever learn is to love, and be loved in return" - Moulin Rouge
Well, it actually took me quite a while to get the logic sorted of how it decides what I do and don't like. Basically (without giving too much away),it uses a few different algorithms to figure out what to play based on different sets of criteria and sort of randomly (alright, so I so use rand() :)) picks one to use. The clever thing is that it learns what you don't like listening and demotes that particluar track or algorithm and uses it less often (or not at all) in future. Over time, the tracks which it predicts that you will like are closer and closer to your own taste. Well, that's the theory anyway. :-D James Spibey I love the word naked, it's brilliant isn't it, 'naked'. When I was a kid I used to write the word naked on a bit of paper hundreds of times and rub my face in it - Jeff, Coupling, BBC2
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Well, it actually took me quite a while to get the logic sorted of how it decides what I do and don't like. Basically (without giving too much away),it uses a few different algorithms to figure out what to play based on different sets of criteria and sort of randomly (alright, so I so use rand() :)) picks one to use. The clever thing is that it learns what you don't like listening and demotes that particluar track or algorithm and uses it less often (or not at all) in future. Over time, the tracks which it predicts that you will like are closer and closer to your own taste. Well, that's the theory anyway. :-D James Spibey I love the word naked, it's brilliant isn't it, 'naked'. When I was a kid I used to write the word naked on a bit of paper hundreds of times and rub my face in it - Jeff, Coupling, BBC2
James Spibey wrote: The clever thing is that it learns what you don't like listening and demotes that particluar track or algorithm and uses it less often That is very cool sounding. What I often find is that I have a huge playlist with shuffle on. As soon as a song starts playing that I don't like I alt-tab to the media player and press skip, it then goes on to another song, having only played the rubbish song for a second or two. I always thought it would be great if WMP detected this and then moved that song down and did not play it as often (sometimes I feel like the song, sometimes I don't). James Spibey wrote: Well, that's the theory anyway. Hehe, as they say "Theory is easy, it's putting it into practice which is difficult". regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass Cape Town, South Africa Do you Sonork? I do! 100.9903 Stormfront "The greatest thing you will ever learn is to love, and be loved in return" - Moulin Rouge
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James Spibey wrote: The clever thing is that it learns what you don't like listening and demotes that particluar track or algorithm and uses it less often That is very cool sounding. What I often find is that I have a huge playlist with shuffle on. As soon as a song starts playing that I don't like I alt-tab to the media player and press skip, it then goes on to another song, having only played the rubbish song for a second or two. I always thought it would be great if WMP detected this and then moved that song down and did not play it as often (sometimes I feel like the song, sometimes I don't). James Spibey wrote: Well, that's the theory anyway. Hehe, as they say "Theory is easy, it's putting it into practice which is difficult". regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass Cape Town, South Africa Do you Sonork? I do! 100.9903 Stormfront "The greatest thing you will ever learn is to love, and be loved in return" - Moulin Rouge
If you have Plus for WXP, there's a WMP DJ that chooses songs for you based on usage and such.
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James Spibey wrote: Have you not tried Winamp? LOL of course I have, I would not be a techy if I had not now would I? I have used Winamp for years as well and never looked elsewhere until recently. My main problem with Winamp is that it has a very poor playlist and a virtually non-existent media library. I know Winamp 3 tries to solve this but IMHO it is not well thought out media library. I hated fiddling with loading and creating playlists in Winamp, it was just too cumbersone. In contracts WMP makes all of that so easy and very slick. RealONE does an even better job of it (so I am finding out). So as much as I liked Winamp and liked supporting the "underdog" I can't go back to it until they make an integrated media player, not a bunch of floating windows which all work oddly. Have you tried WMP or RealONE? :-D Come to the dark side Spibey... regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass Cape Town, South Africa Do you Sonork? I do! 100.9903 Stormfront "The greatest thing you will ever learn is to love, and be loved in return" - Moulin Rouge
>Have you not tried Winamp? >LOL of course I have, Maybe you have not really well. Crossfader http://sqrsoft.audiogalaxy.com/ makes perfect fading from one song to another. WinAmp is free, it has its SDK and there are many plugins around. I do not see much resons to pay for realOne at this point. Regards, Igor Proskuriakov
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>Have you not tried Winamp? >LOL of course I have, Maybe you have not really well. Crossfader http://sqrsoft.audiogalaxy.com/ makes perfect fading from one song to another. WinAmp is free, it has its SDK and there are many plugins around. I do not see much resons to pay for realOne at this point. Regards, Igor Proskuriakov
Well I am no audiophile so I really want a player which I don't have to find plugins and add-ons to make it work as I want. RealONE does that, unfortuantley it is not free and will expire in 10 days for me :(( And Winamp still has a terrible playlist and media player, with or without plugins. I have looked around and have used Winamp for years, I even wrote some of my own plugins and did some skins a long time ago. Anyway no matter regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass Cape Town, South Africa Do you Sonork? I do! 100.9903 Stormfront "The greatest thing you will ever learn is to love, and be loved in return" - Moulin Rouge