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  • B Bill SerGio The Infomercial King

    One more thing... WANT vs, NEEDS I want a Rolls Royce... but I am going to buy a Ford! See my point?:cool: Bill SerGio

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    Richard Stringer
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    Got news for you chump - someone is buying the Rolls. And it is not based on NEED. And if I, as a dealer of automotive vehicles , could sell 10 Rolls a year at 350000 a pop or 200 Fords a year at 20000 a pop guess which one I am gonna sell. And guess which one I will make more money on. Richard "Under certain circumstances, profanity provides a relief denied even to prayer --Mark Twain (1835 - 1910)

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    • B Bill SerGio The Infomercial King

      THAT'S RIGHT! THE COPS ARE THE BAD GUYS TO THE GUY WHO TAKES HOSTAGES! SO YOU WANT TO GET ON HIS GOOD SIDE! GOD BLESS YOU!:rose: Bill SerGio

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      Jim Crafton
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      NO, GOD BLESS YOU BILL! CAUSE SMACK DADDY ON THE MACARONI AND CHEESE THAT WENT SOUR AND GRABBED MY HARGLEBARGLE. CHOPPED HAM ON THAT! ¡El diablo está en mis pantalones! ¡Mire, mire! Real Mentats use only 100% pure, unfooled around with Sapho Juice(tm)! SELECT * FROM User WHERE Clue > 0 0 rows returned

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      • M Megan Forbes

        Bill SerGio, The Infomercial King wrote: In response to comment by Michael... The correct approach... The correct place to answer this would have been in reply to Michaels thread :|


        Look at the world about you and trust to your own convictions. - Ansel Adams
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        Michael P Butler
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        Megan Forbes wrote: The correct place to answer this would have been in reply to Michaels thread LOL. but he'd already sent it to me in private email anyway. I was about to post it on the original thread rather than replying via mail but when I came back to the lounge, he'd beaten me to it. Michael CP Blog [^]

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        • G Giles

          Its MARKETING Chris. MARKETING I could get into this EXCLAMATION thing. Its fun. :-D


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          Michael P Butler
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          Giles wrote: I could get into this EXCLAMATION thing. You usually have to shout at marketing people to get anything done right (or at all), so Bill is bringing real world patterns into the net world. Michael CP Blog [^]

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          • J Jim Crafton

            NO, GOD BLESS YOU BILL! CAUSE SMACK DADDY ON THE MACARONI AND CHEESE THAT WENT SOUR AND GRABBED MY HARGLEBARGLE. CHOPPED HAM ON THAT! ¡El diablo está en mis pantalones! ¡Mire, mire! Real Mentats use only 100% pure, unfooled around with Sapho Juice(tm)! SELECT * FROM User WHERE Clue > 0 0 rows returned

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            Lost User
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            That makes more sense to me than the original message. Sometimes I worry about myself :sigh: The tigress is here :-D

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            • B Bill SerGio The Infomercial King

              :cool:In response to comment by Michael... I sold a course on TV that was very successful and based on a Hostage Negotiation Training Program used exclusively by the F.B.I. and Secret Service and the MAIN principle of this hostage negotiation course explained that you DO NOT GIVE the person holding a hostage what they "WANT"--NEVER! You find out what they NEED and give then what they NEED and NOT what they WANT. I thought this subtle distinction was strange myself between "WANT" vs. "NEED" but it is the first principle in every hostage negotiation manual. For example, the guy holding hostages might say "I want an airplane and a million dollars!".. but he will never get this and the hostage negotiator is trained to NEVER say yes to this! The correct approach according to every hostage manual is to determine what the person needs--a good lawyer for example, and offer ONLY that instead which works. When the guy says, " I want a million dollars and an airplane.." You say, "SO DO I!" but look at those guys in green over there--they are the SWAT team and they are not going to give me a million dolars and an airplane--so what do you think your chances are? They want to shoot you and the hostages--because they are really nuts! Let's talk about what I CAN GET FOR YOU? I can get you a NEW attorney that can get the charges dropped for kiddnapping... etc...." This is the approach---to give the consumer what they NEED and NOT what they SAY they WANT. In creating software, it is not what the user SAYS they "Want " that is what you need to start with--you must start with what they "NEED." People always buy based on what they need and not what they want! Bill SerGio

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              wrykyn
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              Bill SerGio, The Infomercial King wrote: You say, "SO DO I!" but look at those guys in green over there--they are the SWAT team and they are not going to give me a million dolars and an airplane--so what do you think your chances are? They want to shoot you and the hostages--because they are really nuts! Let's talk about what I CAN GET FOR YOU? I can get you a NEW attorney that can get the charges dropped for kiddnapping... etc...." I'm not so sure this is by the book. I thought negotiators were never supposed to make the "guy with the gun" feel threatened or out of control. He might do something to assure himself (or to prove to everyone else) that he is indeed in charge "One of the Georges," said Psmith, "I forget which, once said that a certain number of hours' sleep a day--I cannot recall for the moment how many--made a man something, which for the time being has slipped my memory."

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              • B Bill SerGio The Infomercial King

                :cool:In response to comment by Michael... I sold a course on TV that was very successful and based on a Hostage Negotiation Training Program used exclusively by the F.B.I. and Secret Service and the MAIN principle of this hostage negotiation course explained that you DO NOT GIVE the person holding a hostage what they "WANT"--NEVER! You find out what they NEED and give then what they NEED and NOT what they WANT. I thought this subtle distinction was strange myself between "WANT" vs. "NEED" but it is the first principle in every hostage negotiation manual. For example, the guy holding hostages might say "I want an airplane and a million dollars!".. but he will never get this and the hostage negotiator is trained to NEVER say yes to this! The correct approach according to every hostage manual is to determine what the person needs--a good lawyer for example, and offer ONLY that instead which works. When the guy says, " I want a million dollars and an airplane.." You say, "SO DO I!" but look at those guys in green over there--they are the SWAT team and they are not going to give me a million dolars and an airplane--so what do you think your chances are? They want to shoot you and the hostages--because they are really nuts! Let's talk about what I CAN GET FOR YOU? I can get you a NEW attorney that can get the charges dropped for kiddnapping... etc...." This is the approach---to give the consumer what they NEED and NOT what they SAY they WANT. In creating software, it is not what the user SAYS they "Want " that is what you need to start with--you must start with what they "NEED." People always buy based on what they need and not what they want! Bill SerGio

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                Corinna John
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                So your customers are criminals, and you are the police. You have to force them to give up thinking and just by what you want them to buy. Is that what you wanted to say? You should attend a course about merketing instead. Your business partners - no matter if they are companies or persons - are not your enemies. Never. Only if they sue you...

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                • C Chris Maunder

                  Just a hint Bill: your name automatically appears to the right of the subject line. cheers, Chris Maunder

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                  peterchen
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                  :laugh: :laugh: How to you expect to make one sale if you require your CUSTOMERS to look that far to the right??!


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                  • B Bill SerGio The Infomercial King

                    One more thing... WANT vs, NEEDS I want a Rolls Royce... but I am going to buy a Ford! See my point?:cool: Bill SerGio

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                    Navin
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                    Ford? You're nuts. Go for a Nissan or Toyota. :-D An expert is somebody who learns more and more about less and less, until he knows absolutely everything about nothing.

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                    • B Bill SerGio The Infomercial King

                      THAT'S RIGHT! THE COPS ARE THE BAD GUYS TO THE GUY WHO TAKES HOSTAGES! SO YOU WANT TO GET ON HIS GOOD SIDE! GOD BLESS YOU!:rose: Bill SerGio

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                      Jorgen Sigvardsson
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                      :wtf: -- Denn du bist, was du isst! Und ihr wisst, was es ist! Es ist mein Teil...?

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                      • C Chris Maunder

                        Just a hint Bill: your name automatically appears to the right of the subject line. cheers, Chris Maunder

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                        Jorgen Sigvardsson
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                        Seriously Chris, have you read his articles? They're nothing but disguised advertisements. Nobody can use his code without contacting him for a license (which I assume is not free). Shouldn't he be paying for ad slots? :) -- Denn du bist, was du isst! Und ihr wisst, was es ist! Es ist mein Teil...?

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                        • J Jorgen Sigvardsson

                          :wtf: -- Denn du bist, was du isst! Und ihr wisst, was es ist! Es ist mein Teil...?

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                          Jim Crafton
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                          IT'S THE UMLAUT CROSS-EYED PEAS! CAN'T YOU UNDERSTAND THE VECTOR MATH OF MY CONFIGURED COMPUTER MEME? SHEESH THESE ARTICHOKES TODAY! ¡El diablo está en mis pantalones! ¡Mire, mire! Real Mentats use only 100% pure, unfooled around with Sapho Juice(tm)! SELECT * FROM User WHERE Clue > 0 0 rows returned

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                            IT'S THE UMLAUT CROSS-EYED PEAS! CAN'T YOU UNDERSTAND THE VECTOR MATH OF MY CONFIGURED COMPUTER MEME? SHEESH THESE ARTICHOKES TODAY! ¡El diablo está en mis pantalones! ¡Mire, mire! Real Mentats use only 100% pure, unfooled around with Sapho Juice(tm)! SELECT * FROM User WHERE Clue > 0 0 rows returned

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                            Vadim Tabakman
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                            You da man!!! :-D:laugh::-D:laugh::laugh: If there's one thing I've learned, it's that life is one crushing defeat after another until you just wish Flanders was dead. - Homer Simpson

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