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    First and foremost a head of state is a communicator. If he doesn't pay enough attention to that I worry about what else gets missed. Elaine :rose: The tigress is here :-D

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    Stan Shannon
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    Trollslayer wrote: First and foremost a head of state is a communicator. If he doesn't pay enough attention to that I worry about what else gets missed. I think that is an insane position. Some of the best leaders in history would probably have been lost to us if they had microphones shoved in their faces and judged on that rediculous standard. Besides, Bush does not misspeak any more than most other politicians. His gaffs just get more publicity because it gives the moore-ons (lefties) something to feel good about. Validates their world view, so to spaek. "We have staked the whole of all our political institutions upon the capacity of mankind for self-government, upon the capacity of each and all of us to govern ourselves, to control ourselves, to sustain ourselves according to the Ten Commandments of God." James Madison, "Father of the U.S. Constitution"

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      Trollslayer wrote: First and foremost a head of state is a communicator. If he doesn't pay enough attention to that I worry about what else gets missed. I think that is an insane position. Some of the best leaders in history would probably have been lost to us if they had microphones shoved in their faces and judged on that rediculous standard. Besides, Bush does not misspeak any more than most other politicians. His gaffs just get more publicity because it gives the moore-ons (lefties) something to feel good about. Validates their world view, so to spaek. "We have staked the whole of all our political institutions upon the capacity of mankind for self-government, upon the capacity of each and all of us to govern ourselves, to control ourselves, to sustain ourselves according to the Ten Commandments of God." James Madison, "Father of the U.S. Constitution"

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      Stan Shannon wrote: rediculous I see this often, is this a US spelling ? Stan Shannon wrote: Besides, Bush does not misspeak any more than most other politicians. I doubt that very much. Christian I have drunk the cool-aid and found it wan and bitter. - Chris Maunder

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        Trollslayer wrote: First and foremost a head of state is a communicator. If he doesn't pay enough attention to that I worry about what else gets missed. I think that is an insane position. Some of the best leaders in history would probably have been lost to us if they had microphones shoved in their faces and judged on that rediculous standard. Besides, Bush does not misspeak any more than most other politicians. His gaffs just get more publicity because it gives the moore-ons (lefties) something to feel good about. Validates their world view, so to spaek. "We have staked the whole of all our political institutions upon the capacity of mankind for self-government, upon the capacity of each and all of us to govern ourselves, to control ourselves, to sustain ourselves according to the Ten Commandments of God." James Madison, "Father of the U.S. Constitution"

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        Then why didn't they pick on Bush Sr. Or Reagan, or etc, etc? Or hell, if I remember right, while Rush L. and friend griped about Clinton *all* the time, I don't remember that incompetent public speech was one of their complaints. Bush doesn't just make a *few* mistakes - he makes enough to warrant a whole book published about them! Stuff like the ever popular "misunderestimate" quote! :) ¡El diablo está en mis pantalones! ¡Mire, mire! Real Mentats use only 100% pure, unfooled around with Sapho Juice(tm)! SELECT * FROM User WHERE Clue > 0 0 rows returned

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          Stan Shannon wrote: rediculous I see this often, is this a US spelling ? Stan Shannon wrote: Besides, Bush does not misspeak any more than most other politicians. I doubt that very much. Christian I have drunk the cool-aid and found it wan and bitter. - Chris Maunder

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          Christian Graus wrote: I see this often, is this a US spelling ? No, just mine. Christian Graus wrote: I doubt that very much. I don't. "We have staked the whole of all our political institutions upon the capacity of mankind for self-government, upon the capacity of each and all of us to govern ourselves, to control ourselves, to sustain ourselves according to the Ten Commandments of God." James Madison, "Father of the U.S. Constitution"

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          • J Jeff Bogan

            This was just before sticking to the American taxpayer for another 25 billion, so I think he was finally telling the truth. ----------------------------- All truth passes through 3 stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident.

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            Jeff Bogan wrote: sticking to the American taxpayer for another 25 billion What is that about? Head down at work today... out of touch :((

            "No matter where you go, there your are." - Buckaroo Banzai

            -pete

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            • C Chris Losinger

              finally, Bush tells the truth.

              "Our enemies are innovative and resourceful, and so are we... They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people, and neither do we." - W, today

              http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/08/05/bush.ap/index.html[^] Software | Cleek

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              That's great... might make the "Moment of Zen" on the Daily Show tonight. Even without the guffaws ( and a plenty they are :laugh: ) from GWB I have always thought his speech writers suck. Apparently he cant tell, not a surprise of course. Yes I know that what appeals to me in speaking style is not every ones cup of tea.

              "No matter where you go, there your are." - Buckaroo Banzai

              -pete

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                finally, Bush tells the truth.

                "Our enemies are innovative and resourceful, and so are we... They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people, and neither do we." - W, today

                http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/08/05/bush.ap/index.html[^] Software | Cleek

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                peterchen
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                :laugh: flasse! Luckily (for Bush), everybody knows already what he's trying to tell us.


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                • J Jim Crafton

                  Then why didn't they pick on Bush Sr. Or Reagan, or etc, etc? Or hell, if I remember right, while Rush L. and friend griped about Clinton *all* the time, I don't remember that incompetent public speech was one of their complaints. Bush doesn't just make a *few* mistakes - he makes enough to warrant a whole book published about them! Stuff like the ever popular "misunderestimate" quote! :) ¡El diablo está en mis pantalones! ¡Mire, mire! Real Mentats use only 100% pure, unfooled around with Sapho Juice(tm)! SELECT * FROM User WHERE Clue > 0 0 rows returned

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                  yeah, the wingnuts would never stoop so low. plus they were too busy upholding the high level of public discourse (that which they now loudly bemoan the loss of) by accusing Clinton of being a serial-murdering, drug dealing, rapist scumbag to bother with petty stuff like speaking problems. Software | Cleek

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                  • C Chris Losinger

                    finally, Bush tells the truth.

                    "Our enemies are innovative and resourceful, and so are we... They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people, and neither do we." - W, today

                    http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/08/05/bush.ap/index.html[^] Software | Cleek

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                    Craig RM
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                    This was tragi-funny. Does he write his own speeches or are they written by a staff member? Either way, does no one check what he is going to say given his track record of oratorial accidents?

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                      Then why didn't they pick on Bush Sr. Or Reagan, or etc, etc? Or hell, if I remember right, while Rush L. and friend griped about Clinton *all* the time, I don't remember that incompetent public speech was one of their complaints. Bush doesn't just make a *few* mistakes - he makes enough to warrant a whole book published about them! Stuff like the ever popular "misunderestimate" quote! :) ¡El diablo está en mis pantalones! ¡Mire, mire! Real Mentats use only 100% pure, unfooled around with Sapho Juice(tm)! SELECT * FROM User WHERE Clue > 0 0 rows returned

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                      In Bush Snr.'s case they had Dan Quayle... The tigress is here :-D

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                        Jeff Bogan wrote: sticking to the American taxpayer for another 25 billion What is that about? Head down at work today... out of touch :((

                        "No matter where you go, there your are." - Buckaroo Banzai

                        -pete

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                        "Emergency" funding for Iraq. They said they wouldn't need any more money, but those corrupt cronies were just a little more greedy than expected. ----------------------------- All truth passes through 3 stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident.

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                        • C Chris Losinger

                          finally, Bush tells the truth.

                          "Our enemies are innovative and resourceful, and so are we... They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people, and neither do we." - W, today

                          http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/08/05/bush.ap/index.html[^] Software | Cleek

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                          Chalk up another Bushism :laugh:

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                            finally, Bush tells the truth.

                            "Our enemies are innovative and resourceful, and so are we... They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people, and neither do we." - W, today

                            http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/08/05/bush.ap/index.html[^] Software | Cleek

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                            Chris Losinger wrote: finally, Bush tells the truth. :rolleyes: Later, JoeSox "Generosity is giving more than you can, and pride is taking less than you need." --Kahlil Gibran joeswammi.com ↔ humanaiproject.org ↔ joeswammi.com/sinfest

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                            • L Lost User

                              In Bush Snr.'s case they had Dan Quayle... The tigress is here :-D

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                              God how I miss Dan Quayle. Quayle proves, IMHO, that not only is there a God, but that He's probably a Democrat and has a serious sense of humor! :) We are desparate need of someone like him at this moment - things have gotten entirely too serious. ¡El diablo está en mis pantalones! ¡Mire, mire! Real Mentats use only 100% pure, unfooled around with Sapho Juice(tm)! SELECT * FROM User WHERE Clue > 0 0 rows returned

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                                God how I miss Dan Quayle. Quayle proves, IMHO, that not only is there a God, but that He's probably a Democrat and has a serious sense of humor! :) We are desparate need of someone like him at this moment - things have gotten entirely too serious. ¡El diablo está en mis pantalones! ¡Mire, mire! Real Mentats use only 100% pure, unfooled around with Sapho Juice(tm)! SELECT * FROM User WHERE Clue > 0 0 rows returned

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                                Ian Darling
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                                Jim Crafton wrote: Quayle proves, IMHO, that not only is there a God, but that He's probably a Democrat and has a serious sense of humor! (You have to imagine this post being spoken in a Lord of the Manor, real snooty voice :-D) Sir, God is quite obviously an Englishman, and wouldn't even think of being something so uncouth and unrefined as an _American_. And anyone who disagrees is a wog, or a frog, or a mog, or some other _foreigner_ suffixed with '-og', and therefore their opinion cannot be countenenced. (You can really hear the word "scum" in those italicized words, too :-D)


                                Ian Darling The world is a thing of utter inordinate complexity ... that such complexity can arise ... out of such simplicity ... is the most fabulous extraordinary idea ... once you get some kind of inkling of how that might have happened - it's just wonderful ... the opportunity to spend 70 or 80 years of your life in such a universe is time well spent as far as I am concerned - Douglas Adams

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                                  Jim Crafton wrote: Quayle proves, IMHO, that not only is there a God, but that He's probably a Democrat and has a serious sense of humor! (You have to imagine this post being spoken in a Lord of the Manor, real snooty voice :-D) Sir, God is quite obviously an Englishman, and wouldn't even think of being something so uncouth and unrefined as an _American_. And anyone who disagrees is a wog, or a frog, or a mog, or some other _foreigner_ suffixed with '-og', and therefore their opinion cannot be countenenced. (You can really hear the word "scum" in those italicized words, too :-D)


                                  Ian Darling The world is a thing of utter inordinate complexity ... that such complexity can arise ... out of such simplicity ... is the most fabulous extraordinary idea ... once you get some kind of inkling of how that might have happened - it's just wonderful ... the opportunity to spend 70 or 80 years of your life in such a universe is time well spent as far as I am concerned - Douglas Adams

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                                  Chris Losinger
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                                  Ian Darling wrote: And anyone who disagrees is a wog, or a frog, or a mog ... or a mudblood, or a muggle! Software | Cleek

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                                  • C Chris Losinger

                                    finally, Bush tells the truth.

                                    "Our enemies are innovative and resourceful, and so are we... They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people, and neither do we." - W, today

                                    http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/08/05/bush.ap/index.html[^] Software | Cleek

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                                    brianwelsch
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                                    :laugh::laugh: BW The Biggest Loser


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                                    Farm Donkey hauls some ass."
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