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Nish Nishant

Kant wrote: Sometimes I feel very happy that India is becoming IT mecca, but on other hand me working in US gives me shivers given shrinking US IT industry. Hi Kant, That's fine that you feel worried, but why should you be scared of returning to India? Is India so unbearable to return to after life in a 1st world country? BTW, my question is more out of curiosity than because of any specific views I have on this subject :-)

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Rocky Moore

Michael P Butler wrote: we'd be 'Walmart Greeters" rather than software developers There's a future position :) Actually, I think that the gravy train has already flew off the tracks as far as development goes. The days when you can expect to make a professional salary from through software together is heading down hill with over crowding even though the demand is high. However, this is not a problem. Technology is still in its baby state and the vast majority of businesses use little if any of it. The saturation is very low and along with that comes opportunity. The gold nuggets are not laying on the ground anymore but when you dig, there are still large viens available. Most people just walk around the ground looking and never think to pick up a shovel. Rocky <>< www.HintsAndTips.com www.MyQuickPoll.com - 2004 Election poll is #33 www.GotTheAnswerToSpam.com "We plan for the future, we learn from the past, we live life in the present!"

Nish Nishant

Kant wrote: No one complained in India about these foreign companies invading them with their products. Cause we got better products than what we had :-) Nish

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wrykyn

Nishant S wrote: As an Indian working in the US, why would work being outsourced to India worry you? Its not the outsourcing that worries me. Generally Indians here in the US get some (not a lot) heat whenever outsourcing becomes a topic of conversation. There's a lot of good natured ribbing at work as well. That's why I said I'd be worried. (Besides I'm only hanging around here long enough till I decide on a doctorate one way or another "One of the Georges," said Psmith, "I forget which, once said that a certain number of hours' sleep a day--I cannot recall for the moment how many--made a man something, which for the time being has slipped my memory."

Nish Nishant

Uhm, I guess I owe you an apology for misinterpreting your initial statement. Sorry dude. :sigh: Nish

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wrykyn

Nishant S wrote: Somehow, I had a different picture of the guy I think your picture was perfectly right in the first place. I was not worried about outsourcing making me lose my job. Infact I'm all for anything that helps India's economy improve. I own property myself in Bangalore and Madras and eagerly look forward to returning to India sometime soon. The reason I said I was worried was the discussion would turn the heat on, on Indians living here. That's all. "One of the Georges," said Psmith, "I forget which, once said that a certain number of hours' sleep a day--I cannot recall for the moment how many--made a man something, which for the time being has slipped my memory."

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Ramanan Sivan wrote: I think your picture was perfectly right in the first place Very glad to hear that :) Ramanan Sivan wrote: The reason I said I was worried was the discussion would turn the heat on, on Indians living here. That's all. Yes, I understand now. Nish

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wrykyn

You are more magnanimous than most on this issue. :) Personally, I can understand the anger and frustration that native americans have towards outsourcing (and towards foreign workers in the US ). "One of the Georges," said Psmith, "I forget which, once said that a certain number of hours' sleep a day--I cannot recall for the moment how many--made a man something, which for the time being has slipped my memory."

wrykyn

No its allrite. I always keep picking on people for not being patriotic. Glad to see I'm not alone. :) "One of the Georges," said Psmith, "I forget which, once said that a certain number of hours' sleep a day--I cannot recall for the moment how many--made a man something, which for the time being has slipped my memory."

Kant

Nishant S wrote: That's fine that you feel worried, but why should you be scared of returning to India? I am not scared to comeback to India. It's just thought, what a reverse this country (US) had in last 3 or 4 years. Atleast Indians (majority of them don't own houses), so when their contract is over or if lost the job they can move to another state as long as they are willing to relocate. Lot of Americans who I know never gave a thought of relocating to another state for a job. But now they are doing that, things got changed. Nishant S wrote: Is India so unbearable to return to after life in a 1st world country? One thing I have to admit is it's difficult to adjust back from a country where everything is in order fashion to a country where every Govt. department is in chaos. But me and my wife can adjust within few months, but it would be tough with my kids. Me and my wife discuss about this everyday. I know someday I have to make that decision. BTW, long time no talk or mail ;) Say Hi to Sm.
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Kant

Nishant S wrote: Cause we got better products than what we had Right on. And other thing is people are crazy for the Western products.
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Nish Nishant

Kant wrote: BTW, long time no talk or mail Yup, you don;t seem to come on msn any more :-) Kant wrote: Say Hi to Sm. Sure, will do. Nish

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Kant

Ramanan Sivan wrote: native americans Native Americans are Indians ;P
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wrykyn

Interesting argument. Try giving that to the INS :-D "One of the Georges," said Psmith, "I forget which, once said that a certain number of hours' sleep a day--I cannot recall for the moment how many--made a man something, which for the time being has slipped my memory."

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Ramanan Sivan wrote: Interesting argument. Try giving that to the INS Kant meant American Indians.

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Michael P Butler wrote: looks like I upset a few people though Looks like you did :-) Heck, I got a 1 just for applauding your post :-)

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palbano

Michael P Butler wrote: (looks like I upset a few people though) No one should be upset over anything you said in this thread. It is all very sound and logical. The fact that some of us work in cultures that do not respond to those efforts and their logic does not diminish the quality of your observations. :-D -pete

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wrykyn

I know. Was just making an ironic joke :-D "One of the Georges," said Psmith, "I forget which, once said that a certain number of hours' sleep a day--I cannot recall for the moment how many--made a man something, which for the time being has slipped my memory."

wrykyn

Ah-ha (Actually precious few things have the power to suprise me anymore) "One of the Georges," said Psmith, "I forget which, once said that a certain number of hours' sleep a day--I cannot recall for the moment how many--made a man something, which for the time being has slipped my memory."