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Have you tried MS Virtual PC?

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  • P Paul Watson

    It is very useful. Not as powerful as VMWare but covers what most people need. >and I am enjoying old Windows 98. It looks very good That's good stuff you are smoking ;) regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass South Africa Christopher Duncan wrote: "I always knew that somewhere deep inside that likable, Save the Whales kinda guy there lurked the heart of a troublemaker..." Crikey! ain't life grand?

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    Chodici Mrkev
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    Tell me one bad thing about Windows 98 :-), what a good program, I consider reinstalling them instead of my WXP - no service packs = no problems

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      I found it lacking compared to VMWare also. I tried both (not at the same time) on a machine with 256MB RAM, VirtualPC could only use 128MB while VM could use the full range.

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      Chodici Mrkev
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      VMWare - I don't know it. I will look at it, and is it expensive - compared to MS VPC?

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        Have you tried it? I've just installed Trial on my machine, and I am enjoying old Windows 98. It looks very good

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        Navin
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        I haven't yet, but I have used VMWare (although I don't need to that much anymore.) The biggest reason is that VirtualPC doesn't support USB very well, and that was a critical function for me. An expert is somebody who learns more and more about less and less, until he knows absolutely everything about nothing.

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        • C Chodici Mrkev

          VMWare - I don't know it. I will look at it, and is it expensive - compared to MS VPC?

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          Navin
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          Depends on whether you have MSDN or not. I think (at least for some versions) VirtualPC comes "free" with MSDN. VMWare is something like $300 per license, but they do offer a free trial, and I'm not sure if they have a different payscale for personal use vs. business. An expert is somebody who learns more and more about less and less, until he knows absolutely everything about nothing.

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            Have you tried it? I've just installed Trial on my machine, and I am enjoying old Windows 98. It looks very good

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            Shog9 0
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            Yeah, i've played with it a bit. A bit slower than VMWare (as mentioned), and with fewer options... But - the feature where it'll resize your windows desktop as you resize the window rocks! :)
            You**'re one microscopic cog** in his catastrophic plan...

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            • C Chodici Mrkev

              Tell me one bad thing about Windows 98 :-), what a good program, I consider reinstalling them instead of my WXP - no service packs = no problems

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              Steve Mayfield
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              Couldn't Win98SE be considered a "service pack" for Win98??? Steve

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                Depends on whether you have MSDN or not. I think (at least for some versions) VirtualPC comes "free" with MSDN. VMWare is something like $300 per license, but they do offer a free trial, and I'm not sure if they have a different payscale for personal use vs. business. An expert is somebody who learns more and more about less and less, until he knows absolutely everything about nothing.

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                Jeremy Falcon
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                They dropped the price to $189. Which kicks arse IMO because I prefer VMWare myself because it'll handle OSes like Win3.1, FreeBSD, Linux, etc. Jeremy Falcon

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                  Couldn't Win98SE be considered a "service pack" for Win98??? Steve

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                  Jeremy Falcon
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                  Win98SE was created to help Win98 users transition to Win2K when it came out. If you look at your system files, you'll notice there are a few that were labeled for Windows 2000. Jeremy Falcon

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                  • C Chodici Mrkev

                    Have you tried it? I've just installed Trial on my machine, and I am enjoying old Windows 98. It looks very good

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                    Christopher Duncan
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                    Yeah, for years now, all the way back to the DOS 3.1 virtual operating system. I keep waiting for them to come up with a real one. Oh, sorry, you meant PC. My bad... :) Christopher Duncan Today's Corporate Battle Tactic Unite the Tribes: Ending Turf Wars for Career and Business Success The Career Programmer: Guerilla Tactics for an Imperfect World

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                    • C Chodici Mrkev

                      Have you tried it? I've just installed Trial on my machine, and I am enjoying old Windows 98. It looks very good

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                      Chodici Mrkev
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                      Is it safe to try viruses in the virtual PC

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                        Is it safe to try viruses in the virtual PC

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                        Good question - it depends on your network model. In VMWare I know you can set it to be networked, not-networked, networked to the host only etc. Assuming Virtual PC has these setting somewhere, if you really want to do that, make sure: - You have no networking on - not even to the host machine. This is so the virus can't spread to your real machine. ;) - You don't use any shared disk space. If those are true, your virus can't get outside it's VirtualPC box, and you should be OK. Just remember to blow away that virtual image when you're done. :-O And also notice I say "should" a lot and not "will". I assume no liability for following my advice. :) An expert is somebody who learns more and more about less and less, until he knows absolutely everything about nothing.

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                        • P Paul Watson

                          It is very useful. Not as powerful as VMWare but covers what most people need. >and I am enjoying old Windows 98. It looks very good That's good stuff you are smoking ;) regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass South Africa Christopher Duncan wrote: "I always knew that somewhere deep inside that likable, Save the Whales kinda guy there lurked the heart of a troublemaker..." Crikey! ain't life grand?

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                          Heath Stewart
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                          I tend to like it better than VMWare...only because I get it free with my MSDN Universal subscription. :) Software Design Engineer Developer Division Sustained Engineering Microsoft [My Articles]

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                            Have you tried it? I've just installed Trial on my machine, and I am enjoying old Windows 98. It looks very good

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                            papaya_zm
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                            Yeah,useful tool.you can install windows and linux both on the same computer at the same time.

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                              I tend to like it better than VMWare...only because I get it free with my MSDN Universal subscription. :) Software Design Engineer Developer Division Sustained Engineering Microsoft [My Articles]

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                              Paul Watson
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                              Don't remind me. We bought VMWare and a month later I opened up our monthly MSDN Uni box to find Microsoft Virtual PC which did everything we needed. :doh: regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass South Africa Jörgen Sigvardsson wrote: "Gassho rei, Watson-san!" Crikey! ain't life grand?

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                              • C Chodici Mrkev

                                Have you tried it? I've just installed Trial on my machine, and I am enjoying old Windows 98. It looks very good

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                                NormDroid
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                                I've just installed it, and now attempting to install Longhorn :~

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                                • C Chodici Mrkev

                                  Have you tried it? I've just installed Trial on my machine, and I am enjoying old Windows 98. It looks very good

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                                  Phil J Pearson
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                                  The only way I've ever succeeded in getting L*n*x to install.


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                                  • J Jeremy Falcon

                                    They dropped the price to $189. Which kicks arse IMO because I prefer VMWare myself because it'll handle OSes like Win3.1, FreeBSD, Linux, etc. Jeremy Falcon

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                                    Chris Ormerod
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                                    What do you mean? I have all those OSes running on MS Virtual PC. Have you not been able to run them on VPC?


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                                      Win98SE was created to help Win98 users transition to Win2K when it came out. If you look at your system files, you'll notice there are a few that were labeled for Windows 2000. Jeremy Falcon

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                                      Mike Dimmick
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                                      Windows 98 had a customer service pack (I recall that some parts of eMbedded Visual Tools said that they worked either on 98+CSP or 98SE, but I never got it to work on 98+CSP). Any system DLLs labelled from Windows 2000 are probably the result of VB Package & Deployment Wizards setups built on Windows 2000. P&DW picks up DLLs from System32 by default, not from the Redist directory, so you can end up shipping mismatched components that break older operating systems. Stability. What an interesting concept. -- Chris Maunder

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                                        Windows 98 had a customer service pack (I recall that some parts of eMbedded Visual Tools said that they worked either on 98+CSP or 98SE, but I never got it to work on 98+CSP). Any system DLLs labelled from Windows 2000 are probably the result of VB Package & Deployment Wizards setups built on Windows 2000. P&DW picks up DLLs from System32 by default, not from the Redist directory, so you can end up shipping mismatched components that break older operating systems. Stability. What an interesting concept. -- Chris Maunder

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                                        Jeremy Falcon
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                                        Even on a fresh install? Jeremy Falcon

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                                        • C Chris Ormerod

                                          What do you mean? I have all those OSes running on MS Virtual PC. Have you not been able to run them on VPC?


                                          http://www.chrisormerod.com

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                                          Jeremy Falcon
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                                          I haven't tried VPC since MS got it. I just went on what their website said. Jeremy Falcon

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