First Shorinji Kempo session...
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and I survived. :) One aching pinkie knuckle (lesson learned; don't wiggle your fist while in transit :rolleyes:), blisters on my feet (although, I got most of it yesterday during a muay thai sparring session), and a mildly worked out body later, I'm feeling just great. One thing that really amazes me is that you can accomplish a lot of damage on your opponent, using his or her force only. You can grab, twist and bend an arm using almost no force at all, and they'll be begging you to let go. This is a whole new domain to me. When you box you use a lot more energy; dodging, striking, kicking, kneeing, blocking and moving the feet is very tiresome. Shorinji Kempo was a breeze compared to boxing in terms of energy output. Nonetheless very effective. I think I finally found a sport that will never be boring. :cool: -- ...Coca Cola, sometimes war...
I hope they started with a How To Pronounce Shorinji Kempo lesson first. Blimey. regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass South Africa Christopher Duncan wrote: "I always knew that somewhere deep inside that likable, Save the Whales kinda guy there lurked the heart of a troublemaker..." Crikey! ain't life grand?
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I hope they started with a How To Pronounce Shorinji Kempo lesson first. Blimey. regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass South Africa Christopher Duncan wrote: "I always knew that somewhere deep inside that likable, Save the Whales kinda guy there lurked the heart of a troublemaker..." Crikey! ain't life grand?
Hai! Half of what they say in the dojo is in japanese. I and a couple of other newbies were pretty clueless, but it was expected. All of a sudden you hear someone roaring and gurgling. It takes a second before your brain picks up that it was actually a sentence. :-D Gassho rei, Watson-san! -- ...Coca Cola, sometimes war...
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and I survived. :) One aching pinkie knuckle (lesson learned; don't wiggle your fist while in transit :rolleyes:), blisters on my feet (although, I got most of it yesterday during a muay thai sparring session), and a mildly worked out body later, I'm feeling just great. One thing that really amazes me is that you can accomplish a lot of damage on your opponent, using his or her force only. You can grab, twist and bend an arm using almost no force at all, and they'll be begging you to let go. This is a whole new domain to me. When you box you use a lot more energy; dodging, striking, kicking, kneeing, blocking and moving the feet is very tiresome. Shorinji Kempo was a breeze compared to boxing in terms of energy output. Nonetheless very effective. I think I finally found a sport that will never be boring. :cool: -- ...Coca Cola, sometimes war...
Shorinji Kempo was a breeze compared to boxing in terms of energy output. Nonetheless very effective. That's the really cool part. I go to a school that teaches a variation on Kempo that includes grappling and it's amazing to watch how effective you become when you just relax into the moves. :)
Quantum materiae materietur marmota monax si marmota monax materiam possit materiari?
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Shorinji Kempo was a breeze compared to boxing in terms of energy output. Nonetheless very effective. That's the really cool part. I go to a school that teaches a variation on Kempo that includes grappling and it's amazing to watch how effective you become when you just relax into the moves. :)
Quantum materiae materietur marmota monax si marmota monax materiam possit materiari?
When I've become a bit more experienced in martial arts, I would like to continue and explore other martial arts. I think grappling is a very effective arsenal to have in case of emergency. I mean, if a drunk moron is starting swing at you, the worst thing you can do is to strike back. The best thing, if possible, is to simply walk away, but in some instances, that's not an option. That's where grappling and throwing shines. The goal is to 1) disable the offender without 2) injuring him. Then you can't be charged with assault or over aggressivness (using more force than needed to defend yourself). :) I think Jiu-Jitsu would be just excellent for studying grappling techniques. Have you seen Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu[^] in action? It's amazing how they can find a submission hold from the most impossible positions! -- ...Coca Cola, sometimes war...
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When I've become a bit more experienced in martial arts, I would like to continue and explore other martial arts. I think grappling is a very effective arsenal to have in case of emergency. I mean, if a drunk moron is starting swing at you, the worst thing you can do is to strike back. The best thing, if possible, is to simply walk away, but in some instances, that's not an option. That's where grappling and throwing shines. The goal is to 1) disable the offender without 2) injuring him. Then you can't be charged with assault or over aggressivness (using more force than needed to defend yourself). :) I think Jiu-Jitsu would be just excellent for studying grappling techniques. Have you seen Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu[^] in action? It's amazing how they can find a submission hold from the most impossible positions! -- ...Coca Cola, sometimes war...
The goal is to 1) disable the offender without 2) injuring him That's exactly the reason why we do it. :) Have you seen Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu[^] in action? Yes! We (being the school that I go to, here: http://www.guardianacademy.com/) not only have a Guardian Juijitsu class, but on Tuesday's and Thursday's, Sensei Preston has his own Brazilian JiuJitsu classes. He occasionally comes in to our classes to grapple with us and he's so good it's kinda scary.
Quantum materiae materietur marmota monax si marmota monax materiam possit materiari?
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The goal is to 1) disable the offender without 2) injuring him That's exactly the reason why we do it. :) Have you seen Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu[^] in action? Yes! We (being the school that I go to, here: http://www.guardianacademy.com/) not only have a Guardian Juijitsu class, but on Tuesday's and Thursday's, Sensei Preston has his own Brazilian JiuJitsu classes. He occasionally comes in to our classes to grapple with us and he's so good it's kinda scary.
Quantum materiae materietur marmota monax si marmota monax materiam possit materiari?
David Stone wrote: not only have a Guardian Juijitsu class What is your discipline(s)? David Stone wrote: He occasionally comes in to our classes to grapple with us and he's so good it's kinda scary. Isn't that true of all Sensei's? I found respect for my Sensei instantly. There's something about his presence that I can't put my finger on. Everytime he demonstrates a move, I'm in awe of the elegance he posseses. Also, when he speaks, I feel compelled to stop whatever I'm doing, shut up, turn to him, put my hands togther and just listen. I've never really felt that before for anyone, not even military commanders. People like that should be school teachers as well IMHO. BTW, if you ever feel like experimenting with different martial arts, I can really recommend Muay Thai. Then I mean real Muay Thai and not kick boxing under rules allowing the use of knees and elbows. I haven't done any serious training in a Muay Thai dojo (don't know the thai word for dojo, so please excuse my ignorance), but I've watched a couple of videos on the topic. Many people believe that Muay Thai is just boxing++, but that is far from the truth. It's as spiritual (I think spiritual is a good description) as any other "traditional" budo sport. It's also a very fun way to get a really hard workout - after an hour you're bathing in sweat :-D I should also mention that I made three new friends today. I'm in a really good mood today :) -- ...Coca Cola, sometimes war...
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David Stone wrote: not only have a Guardian Juijitsu class What is your discipline(s)? David Stone wrote: He occasionally comes in to our classes to grapple with us and he's so good it's kinda scary. Isn't that true of all Sensei's? I found respect for my Sensei instantly. There's something about his presence that I can't put my finger on. Everytime he demonstrates a move, I'm in awe of the elegance he posseses. Also, when he speaks, I feel compelled to stop whatever I'm doing, shut up, turn to him, put my hands togther and just listen. I've never really felt that before for anyone, not even military commanders. People like that should be school teachers as well IMHO. BTW, if you ever feel like experimenting with different martial arts, I can really recommend Muay Thai. Then I mean real Muay Thai and not kick boxing under rules allowing the use of knees and elbows. I haven't done any serious training in a Muay Thai dojo (don't know the thai word for dojo, so please excuse my ignorance), but I've watched a couple of videos on the topic. Many people believe that Muay Thai is just boxing++, but that is far from the truth. It's as spiritual (I think spiritual is a good description) as any other "traditional" budo sport. It's also a very fun way to get a really hard workout - after an hour you're bathing in sweat :-D I should also mention that I made three new friends today. I'm in a really good mood today :) -- ...Coca Cola, sometimes war...
What is your discipline Well, our Soke just re-arranged all of the arts in the school. So I'm in the old Kempo system. Basically, I can go to any of the classes that I want and work on their stuff and/or my stuff. So, with my current work/school schedule, I go to the karate and juijitsu classes, but I still work on my kempo stuff with other kempo people in those classes. :) Isn't that true of all Sensei's? Not all...but most. Also, when he speaks, I feel compelled to stop whatever I'm doing, shut up, turn to him, put my hands togther and just listen. I've never really felt that before for anyone, not even military commanders. That's another thing. Soke always has discussion while we're stretching, so he takes a topic and discusses it with us. Sometimes it's more philosophy/theology oriented, sometimes it's directly applicable to martial arts. But he's really brilliant and everybody always shuts up and listens. The cool part is, he's very open to being wrong. He says that if you have an opposing viewpoint and you convince him that he's wrong, he'll change what he believes. He sums it all up with his "primary belief": "Reality is more important that what you believe." People like that should be school teachers as well IMHO. He plans on homeschooling his kids (once he has kids that is). :)
Quantum materiae materietur marmota monax si marmota monax materiam possit materiari?
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What is your discipline Well, our Soke just re-arranged all of the arts in the school. So I'm in the old Kempo system. Basically, I can go to any of the classes that I want and work on their stuff and/or my stuff. So, with my current work/school schedule, I go to the karate and juijitsu classes, but I still work on my kempo stuff with other kempo people in those classes. :) Isn't that true of all Sensei's? Not all...but most. Also, when he speaks, I feel compelled to stop whatever I'm doing, shut up, turn to him, put my hands togther and just listen. I've never really felt that before for anyone, not even military commanders. That's another thing. Soke always has discussion while we're stretching, so he takes a topic and discusses it with us. Sometimes it's more philosophy/theology oriented, sometimes it's directly applicable to martial arts. But he's really brilliant and everybody always shuts up and listens. The cool part is, he's very open to being wrong. He says that if you have an opposing viewpoint and you convince him that he's wrong, he'll change what he believes. He sums it all up with his "primary belief": "Reality is more important that what you believe." People like that should be school teachers as well IMHO. He plans on homeschooling his kids (once he has kids that is). :)
Quantum materiae materietur marmota monax si marmota monax materiam possit materiari?
David Stone wrote: He sums it all up with his "primary belief": "Reality is more important that what you believe." The Controversy and Intelligent Dissent section is probably the most intelligent text regarding religion I've ever read. Sounds like Soke is a pretty smart guy. :) -- ...Coca Cola, sometimes war...
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David Stone wrote: He sums it all up with his "primary belief": "Reality is more important that what you believe." The Controversy and Intelligent Dissent section is probably the most intelligent text regarding religion I've ever read. Sounds like Soke is a pretty smart guy. :) -- ...Coca Cola, sometimes war...
The Controversy and Intelligent Dissent section is probably the most intelligent text regarding religion I've ever read. Sounds like Soke is a pretty smart guy. Oh he is. :) I had a discussion with him the other day about quantum theory as it relates to Christianity. Not something you normally get from a karate instructor. ;)
Quantum materiae materietur marmota monax si marmota monax materiam possit materiari?
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The Controversy and Intelligent Dissent section is probably the most intelligent text regarding religion I've ever read. Sounds like Soke is a pretty smart guy. Oh he is. :) I had a discussion with him the other day about quantum theory as it relates to Christianity. Not something you normally get from a karate instructor. ;)
Quantum materiae materietur marmota monax si marmota monax materiam possit materiari?
David Stone wrote: discussion with him the other day about quantum theory as it relates to Christianity. Uh....what??? :~ John Theal Physicist at Large Got CAD? http://www.presenter3d.com[^]
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David Stone wrote: discussion with him the other day about quantum theory as it relates to Christianity. Uh....what??? :~ John Theal Physicist at Large Got CAD? http://www.presenter3d.com[^]
Uh....what??? [I knew this wasn't going to go un-noticed...I probably shouldn't have said anything ;P] I wanted to bounce an idea I had about predestination vs free will (a controversial subject in Christian circles) that came to me while re-reading the chapter on Schroedinger's equations in my physics book.
Quantum materiae materietur marmota monax si marmota monax materiam possit materiari?
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David Stone wrote: discussion with him the other day about quantum theory as it relates to Christianity. Uh....what??? :~ John Theal Physicist at Large Got CAD? http://www.presenter3d.com[^]
John Theal wrote: Uh....what??? Quantum mechanics is a largely unexplored/unexplained subject. A theory is as good as any theory until it's proven or disproven? :) Not that I think there's a God playing on strings and membranes as if it was his own harp. I don't mind accepting undertainty. It makes life a bit more exciting. :) -- ...Coca Cola, sometimes war...
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Uh....what??? [I knew this wasn't going to go un-noticed...I probably shouldn't have said anything ;P] I wanted to bounce an idea I had about predestination vs free will (a controversial subject in Christian circles) that came to me while re-reading the chapter on Schroedinger's equations in my physics book.
Quantum materiae materietur marmota monax si marmota monax materiam possit materiari?
David Stone wrote: predestination vs free will That's a tough one. How could one tell? Personally, I prefer I'm doing the choices (despite the fact that I've done some pretty dumb things!) If everything is predestined, we're just software written in Fortran 77 - very static. Scary thought. :~ -- ...Coca Cola, sometimes war...
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Uh....what??? [I knew this wasn't going to go un-noticed...I probably shouldn't have said anything ;P] I wanted to bounce an idea I had about predestination vs free will (a controversial subject in Christian circles) that came to me while re-reading the chapter on Schroedinger's equations in my physics book.
Quantum materiae materietur marmota monax si marmota monax materiam possit materiari?
Okay, I mean I'm pretty open minded but I'll just warn you that Schroedinger's equations are very well understood, as are the many schools of interpretation (ie: Copenhagen, Bohm's many worlds, etc...). But I mean go ahead, shoot. I'm open to new ideas. Maybe take it to the soapbox maybe to avoid the Lounge police? John Theal Physicist at Large Got CAD? http://www.presenter3d.com[^]
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What is your discipline Well, our Soke just re-arranged all of the arts in the school. So I'm in the old Kempo system. Basically, I can go to any of the classes that I want and work on their stuff and/or my stuff. So, with my current work/school schedule, I go to the karate and juijitsu classes, but I still work on my kempo stuff with other kempo people in those classes. :) Isn't that true of all Sensei's? Not all...but most. Also, when he speaks, I feel compelled to stop whatever I'm doing, shut up, turn to him, put my hands togther and just listen. I've never really felt that before for anyone, not even military commanders. That's another thing. Soke always has discussion while we're stretching, so he takes a topic and discusses it with us. Sometimes it's more philosophy/theology oriented, sometimes it's directly applicable to martial arts. But he's really brilliant and everybody always shuts up and listens. The cool part is, he's very open to being wrong. He says that if you have an opposing viewpoint and you convince him that he's wrong, he'll change what he believes. He sums it all up with his "primary belief": "Reality is more important that what you believe." People like that should be school teachers as well IMHO. He plans on homeschooling his kids (once he has kids that is). :)
Quantum materiae materietur marmota monax si marmota monax materiam possit materiari?
David Stone wrote: "Reality is more important that what you believe." What kind of crazy solipsism is that? Dave Goodman dgoodman@infoway.com www.dkgoodman.com "Actio sequitur esse."
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John Theal wrote: Uh....what??? Quantum mechanics is a largely unexplored/unexplained subject. A theory is as good as any theory until it's proven or disproven? :) Not that I think there's a God playing on strings and membranes as if it was his own harp. I don't mind accepting undertainty. It makes life a bit more exciting. :) -- ...Coca Cola, sometimes war...
As I understand it, Quantum mechanics is the most well tested and verified scientific theory mankind has ever developed, and it's predictions explain every electronic device including the stability of solid matter itself and the sun that we are dependent on. However, there are a number of open parameters to the theory that have values that we can't predict. Most popular descriptions of quantum mechanics focus on the unknown theories that we hope underly QM the same way that it provides a basis for Classical mechanics and general relativity. When I took my first physics course at the university level, my professor drilled into the class that physics is about the physical principles that govern our reality. It is about understanding forces, masses, energy etc. and then applying them to produce equations to solve problems. Unfortunately we have been forced to deal with Quantum Mechanics from the opposite perspective. We have the underlying equations and are very profficient at calculating results from the equations, but the underlying principles are still generally obscured. This is basicly the Shut up and calcuate interpretation of QM.
I can imagine the sinking feeling one would have after ordering my book, only to find a laughably ridiculous theory with demented logic once the book arrives - Mark McCutcheon
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David Stone wrote: "Reality is more important that what you believe." What kind of crazy solipsism is that? Dave Goodman dgoodman@infoway.com www.dkgoodman.com "Actio sequitur esse."
What's crazy about it? Reality is - everything else is wishful thinking. Quite a number of otherwise sane people engage regularly in wishful thinking, and very few bother to take regular reality checks... One good definition of insanity is repeating the same behavior over and over, and expecting a different outcome. "My kid was Inmate of the Month at Adobe Mountain Juvenile Corrections Center" - Bumper Sticker in Bullhead City
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When I've become a bit more experienced in martial arts, I would like to continue and explore other martial arts. I think grappling is a very effective arsenal to have in case of emergency. I mean, if a drunk moron is starting swing at you, the worst thing you can do is to strike back. The best thing, if possible, is to simply walk away, but in some instances, that's not an option. That's where grappling and throwing shines. The goal is to 1) disable the offender without 2) injuring him. Then you can't be charged with assault or over aggressivness (using more force than needed to defend yourself). :) I think Jiu-Jitsu would be just excellent for studying grappling techniques. Have you seen Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu[^] in action? It's amazing how they can find a submission hold from the most impossible positions! -- ...Coca Cola, sometimes war...
Jörgen Sigvardsson wrote: When I've become a bit more experienced in martial arts, I would like to continue and explore other martial arts. Don't forget our age-old Swedish arts, such as Clog-kicking and Schnapps-bottle fighting! Personally, I'm more into full-contact Bridge, but I sure was a mean International Karate-player on the C-64!
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Jörgen Sigvardsson wrote: When I've become a bit more experienced in martial arts, I would like to continue and explore other martial arts. Don't forget our age-old Swedish arts, such as Clog-kicking and Schnapps-bottle fighting! Personally, I'm more into full-contact Bridge, but I sure was a mean International Karate-player on the C-64!
Johan Rosengren wrote: Don't forget our age-old Swedish arts, such as Clog-kicking and Schnapps-bottle fighting! :-D It's those kind of people I try to avoid. Fortunately, they're a dying breed. Johan Rosengren wrote: but I sure was a mean International Karate-player on the C-64! I relived IK on the Xbox not too long ago. I really wish I had an xbox compatible TAC-2 joystick. That would mean some serious butt kicking and ball deflection. :cool: -- ...Coca Cola, sometimes war...