Ethical question
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Navin wrote: or euthenized Er, that means killed, right? Like slaughtered, massacred, exterminated, that kind of thing? Dead is dead. Never understood the need for these silly, politically correct phrases. But then, I'm not politically correct... :) Christopher Duncan Today's Corporate Battle Tactic Unite the Tribes: Ending Turf Wars for Career and Business Success The Career Programmer: Guerilla Tactics for an Imperfect World
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Navin wrote: So the question - should I report this rabbit situation to the Humane Society? I'd be somewhat surprised if sonebody in that neighborhood hasn't already done so, but on the other hand, these rabbits have been there for several months.. maybe even a year... Get a big bag. Put the rabbits in. Go to a pet-store and find out if they'll buy them off you. You never know you might earn some bunny :-D I'd report it, one way or another the bunnies will end up dead. Dogs, cats, foxes and cars will see to that. At least with the humane society, they stand a chance. Michael CP Blog [^]
Michael P Butler wrote: You never know you might earn some bunny. Now there's a hare brained scheme... :doh: ssshh - be vewy vewy qwiet... were punning wabbits!
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... but not related to software in any way. Just want a good cross-section of opinions here. :) There is a particular street that I happen upon occasionally.. maybe once or twice a month, and sometimes less... but anyhow, this street is always innundated with rabbits. Not the little brown wild rabbits, but the domestic-looking kind that you might find in a pet store. They aren't just in somebody's house, they are out roaming the streets.. and becuase of this, occasionally there is a squashed one in the road. I estimate there are maybe 20 or so rabbits. They appear to be fed (unclear whether they are being fed, or just eating grass and surviving on that.) They likely *aren't* neutered/spayed, as I've seen baby rabbits on occasion. They are moderatley skittish - you can approach them on foot, but once you get close to them they run away. I have no idea who, if anybody, officially owns these rabbits, although they tend to congregate around a certain house. There is a Humane Society here which handles animal control issues. They have raided houses in the past - for instance if somebody is hoarding 80 cats or something. The problem is that if they run out of room or money for housing animals, and can't adopt them out, or get them into temporary "foster" homes, they euthenize them. So the question - should I report this rabbit situation to the Humane Society? I'd be somewhat surprised if sonebody in that neighborhood hasn't already done so, but on the other hand, these rabbits have been there for several months.. maybe even a year... :~ An expert is somebody who learns more and more about less and less, until he knows absolutely everything about nothing.
I'd say if the people living on that street haven't bothered to call, then no one is troubled by them. Leave it alone. Plus, it's neat for you to dive down a street covered in hare. (sorry about that) BW The Biggest Loser
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Navin wrote: or euthenized Er, that means killed, right? Like slaughtered, massacred, exterminated, that kind of thing? Dead is dead. Never understood the need for these silly, politically correct phrases. But then, I'm not politically correct... :) Christopher Duncan Today's Corporate Battle Tactic Unite the Tribes: Ending Turf Wars for Career and Business Success The Career Programmer: Guerilla Tactics for an Imperfect World
Christopher Duncan wrote: Never understood the need for these silly, politically correct phrases. It has nothing to do with PC. While the net result of both euthanasia and killing is to put an end to life, one is way more humane than the other. That is the difference.
"When I was born I was so surprised that I didn't talk for a year and a half." - Gracie Allen
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Michael P Butler wrote: You never know you might earn some bunny. Now there's a hare brained scheme... :doh: ssshh - be vewy vewy qwiet... were punning wabbits!
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Christopher Duncan wrote: Never understood the need for these silly, politically correct phrases. It has nothing to do with PC. While the net result of both euthanasia and killing is to put an end to life, one is way more humane than the other. That is the difference.
"When I was born I was so surprised that I didn't talk for a year and a half." - Gracie Allen
So, the people on Death Row are euthenised, are they?
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So, the people on Death Row are euthenised, are they?
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Colin Angus Mackay wrote: So, the people on Death Row are euthenised, are they? I thought that was terminally rehabilitated? :~ X|
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... but not related to software in any way. Just want a good cross-section of opinions here. :) There is a particular street that I happen upon occasionally.. maybe once or twice a month, and sometimes less... but anyhow, this street is always innundated with rabbits. Not the little brown wild rabbits, but the domestic-looking kind that you might find in a pet store. They aren't just in somebody's house, they are out roaming the streets.. and becuase of this, occasionally there is a squashed one in the road. I estimate there are maybe 20 or so rabbits. They appear to be fed (unclear whether they are being fed, or just eating grass and surviving on that.) They likely *aren't* neutered/spayed, as I've seen baby rabbits on occasion. They are moderatley skittish - you can approach them on foot, but once you get close to them they run away. I have no idea who, if anybody, officially owns these rabbits, although they tend to congregate around a certain house. There is a Humane Society here which handles animal control issues. They have raided houses in the past - for instance if somebody is hoarding 80 cats or something. The problem is that if they run out of room or money for housing animals, and can't adopt them out, or get them into temporary "foster" homes, they euthenize them. So the question - should I report this rabbit situation to the Humane Society? I'd be somewhat surprised if sonebody in that neighborhood hasn't already done so, but on the other hand, these rabbits have been there for several months.. maybe even a year... :~ An expert is somebody who learns more and more about less and less, until he knows absolutely everything about nothing.
Well, where I live there are hundred of wild rabbits running around all over the place. I occasionally see one squashed on the road, but they just keep on multiplying. If you go up to the Highlands of Scotland there are so many rabbits all over the place that for every 2 hours of driving you're going to hit one.
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... but not related to software in any way. Just want a good cross-section of opinions here. :) There is a particular street that I happen upon occasionally.. maybe once or twice a month, and sometimes less... but anyhow, this street is always innundated with rabbits. Not the little brown wild rabbits, but the domestic-looking kind that you might find in a pet store. They aren't just in somebody's house, they are out roaming the streets.. and becuase of this, occasionally there is a squashed one in the road. I estimate there are maybe 20 or so rabbits. They appear to be fed (unclear whether they are being fed, or just eating grass and surviving on that.) They likely *aren't* neutered/spayed, as I've seen baby rabbits on occasion. They are moderatley skittish - you can approach them on foot, but once you get close to them they run away. I have no idea who, if anybody, officially owns these rabbits, although they tend to congregate around a certain house. There is a Humane Society here which handles animal control issues. They have raided houses in the past - for instance if somebody is hoarding 80 cats or something. The problem is that if they run out of room or money for housing animals, and can't adopt them out, or get them into temporary "foster" homes, they euthenize them. So the question - should I report this rabbit situation to the Humane Society? I'd be somewhat surprised if sonebody in that neighborhood hasn't already done so, but on the other hand, these rabbits have been there for several months.. maybe even a year... :~ An expert is somebody who learns more and more about less and less, until he knows absolutely everything about nothing.
I think they are one of the most rapidly reproducing creatures. I'd say let them be. They will expand their population to however much the environment can support. "One of the Georges," said Psmith, "I forget which, once said that a certain number of hours' sleep a day--I cannot recall for the moment how many--made a man something, which for the time being has slipped my memory."
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Michael P Butler wrote: ...but at least his software came with a warrenty. Yep, a maze-ing! I hear they had some pretty what's up docs too... all ya gotta do is ask us to stop, folks...
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Two words. Rabbit stew. :) Christopher Duncan Today's Corporate Battle Tactic Unite the Tribes: Ending Turf Wars for Career and Business Success The Career Programmer: Guerilla Tactics for an Imperfect World
I prefer hare pie ;) Cheers, Tom Archer "Use what talents you possess. The woods would be very silent if no birds sang there except those that sang best." - William Blake * Inside C# -Second Edition * Visual C++.NET Bible * Extending MFC Applications with the .NET Framework
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domestic rabbit that get into the wild only take a couple generations to look just like the other wile rabbits in the area. (My sister raised rabbits) Rabbits are at the bottom of the food chain. They eat grass. Nearly everything else eats them. I'd let them be, the owls, hawks, and other birds in the area are getting a feast! Let nature have its way. If they are a problem rabbit is good eating.
Henry miller wrote: If they are a problem rabbit is good eating. No doubt. My step-father raised rabbits to sell. What he didn't sell, we ate! Darn good eating. Cheers, Tom Archer "Use what talents you possess. The woods would be very silent if no birds sang there except those that sang best." - William Blake * Inside C# -Second Edition * Visual C++.NET Bible * Extending MFC Applications with the .NET Framework
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... but not related to software in any way. Just want a good cross-section of opinions here. :) There is a particular street that I happen upon occasionally.. maybe once or twice a month, and sometimes less... but anyhow, this street is always innundated with rabbits. Not the little brown wild rabbits, but the domestic-looking kind that you might find in a pet store. They aren't just in somebody's house, they are out roaming the streets.. and becuase of this, occasionally there is a squashed one in the road. I estimate there are maybe 20 or so rabbits. They appear to be fed (unclear whether they are being fed, or just eating grass and surviving on that.) They likely *aren't* neutered/spayed, as I've seen baby rabbits on occasion. They are moderatley skittish - you can approach them on foot, but once you get close to them they run away. I have no idea who, if anybody, officially owns these rabbits, although they tend to congregate around a certain house. There is a Humane Society here which handles animal control issues. They have raided houses in the past - for instance if somebody is hoarding 80 cats or something. The problem is that if they run out of room or money for housing animals, and can't adopt them out, or get them into temporary "foster" homes, they euthenize them. So the question - should I report this rabbit situation to the Humane Society? I'd be somewhat surprised if sonebody in that neighborhood hasn't already done so, but on the other hand, these rabbits have been there for several months.. maybe even a year... :~ An expert is somebody who learns more and more about less and less, until he knows absolutely everything about nothing.
Buy a neighborhood Jack Russell Terrier...mine killed two in my backyard this past Friday. I don't tend to be bothered by wanted/unwanted guests...moles, rabbits, snakes, possums, birds, field mice, and squirrels seem to be on his "must kill" list. He doesn't appear to be afraid of anything. Gary Kirkham A working Program is one that has only unobserved bugs He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain what he cannot lose. - Jim Elliot Me blog, You read
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So, the people on Death Row are euthenised, are they?
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Strictly speaking, yes. Was there ever a doubt? The definition plainly states that euthanasia is the act of killing someone or something painlessly, especially if suffering from an incurable illness.
"When I was born I was so surprised that I didn't talk for a year and a half." - Gracie Allen
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I think they are one of the most rapidly reproducing creatures. I'd say let them be. They will expand their population to however much the environment can support. "One of the Georges," said Psmith, "I forget which, once said that a certain number of hours' sleep a day--I cannot recall for the moment how many--made a man something, which for the time being has slipped my memory."
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They will expand their population to however much the environment can support. Yeah, I think that's part of the problem. :doh: An expert is somebody who learns more and more about less and less, until he knows absolutely everything about nothing.
I remember reading an article about containing the number of stray dogs in India. The article stated that the dogs know how many of them can be supported in a particular area (of the city) stay and they will not "expand" their number until one of the dogs dies or such. Similarly they will defend the territory against invaders since they know if some more dogs move it they will no longer be supported by that area. The argument being made was that its useless to catch and kill dogs since they will expand anyways. "One of the Georges," said Psmith, "I forget which, once said that a certain number of hours' sleep a day--I cannot recall for the moment how many--made a man something, which for the time being has slipped my memory."
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Strictly speaking, yes. Was there ever a doubt? The definition plainly states that euthanasia is the act of killing someone or something painlessly, especially if suffering from an incurable illness.
"When I was born I was so surprised that I didn't talk for a year and a half." - Gracie Allen
No definition mentions the consent of the sick person :sigh: Isn't euthanasia without consent a murder? :suss:
Tu tues une baleine, t'auras les écolos, t'auras Greenpeace, t'auras le commandant Cousteau sur le dos! Mais décime un banc de sardines, j'aime autant te dire qu'on t'aidera à les mettre en boîte!
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... but not related to software in any way. Just want a good cross-section of opinions here. :) There is a particular street that I happen upon occasionally.. maybe once or twice a month, and sometimes less... but anyhow, this street is always innundated with rabbits. Not the little brown wild rabbits, but the domestic-looking kind that you might find in a pet store. They aren't just in somebody's house, they are out roaming the streets.. and becuase of this, occasionally there is a squashed one in the road. I estimate there are maybe 20 or so rabbits. They appear to be fed (unclear whether they are being fed, or just eating grass and surviving on that.) They likely *aren't* neutered/spayed, as I've seen baby rabbits on occasion. They are moderatley skittish - you can approach them on foot, but once you get close to them they run away. I have no idea who, if anybody, officially owns these rabbits, although they tend to congregate around a certain house. There is a Humane Society here which handles animal control issues. They have raided houses in the past - for instance if somebody is hoarding 80 cats or something. The problem is that if they run out of room or money for housing animals, and can't adopt them out, or get them into temporary "foster" homes, they euthenize them. So the question - should I report this rabbit situation to the Humane Society? I'd be somewhat surprised if sonebody in that neighborhood hasn't already done so, but on the other hand, these rabbits have been there for several months.. maybe even a year... :~ An expert is somebody who learns more and more about less and less, until he knows absolutely everything about nothing.
Rabbits may be cute, but they can also be a plague: "Rabbits are one of Australia's foremost environmental pests. They have been one of the main causes of habitat destruction, native flora and fuana extinction, land degradation and crop destruction"[^]
Tu tues une baleine, t'auras les écolos, t'auras Greenpeace, t'auras le commandant Cousteau sur le dos! Mais décime un banc de sardines, j'aime autant te dire qu'on t'aidera à les mettre en boîte!
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Strictly speaking, yes. Was there ever a doubt? The definition plainly states that euthanasia is the act of killing someone or something painlessly, especially if suffering from an incurable illness.
"When I was born I was so surprised that I didn't talk for a year and a half." - Gracie Allen
DavidCrow wrote: Was there ever a doubt? My dictionary says it is to do with killing someone or something painlessly for medical reasons. Nothing about killing as a result of being sentenced to death. I typed define:euthanasia[^] into Google to see what it came up with, and of 13 definitions only one could be interpreted as possibly referring to a person on death row, and even then it was guiding the reader to thinking of terminally ill patients.
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No definition mentions the consent of the sick person :sigh: Isn't euthanasia without consent a murder? :suss:
Tu tues une baleine, t'auras les écolos, t'auras Greenpeace, t'auras le commandant Cousteau sur le dos! Mais décime un banc de sardines, j'aime autant te dire qu'on t'aidera à les mettre en boîte!
A few definitions do mention the consent of the ill person. However, there are a number of senarios where the patient is in a vegetative state - where there is no hope of communicating with them - that they couldn't give consent anyway.
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