Skip to content
  • Categories
  • Recent
  • Tags
  • Popular
  • World
  • Users
  • Groups
Skins
  • Light
  • Cerulean
  • Cosmo
  • Flatly
  • Journal
  • Litera
  • Lumen
  • Lux
  • Materia
  • Minty
  • Morph
  • Pulse
  • Sandstone
  • Simplex
  • Sketchy
  • Spacelab
  • United
  • Yeti
  • Zephyr
  • Dark
  • Cyborg
  • Darkly
  • Quartz
  • Slate
  • Solar
  • Superhero
  • Vapor

  • Default (No Skin)
  • No Skin
Collapse
Code Project
  1. Home
  2. The Lounge
  3. Ethics of cracking

Ethics of cracking

Scheduled Pinned Locked Moved The Lounge
question
11 Posts 9 Posters 0 Views 1 Watching
  • Oldest to Newest
  • Newest to Oldest
  • Most Votes
Reply
  • Reply as topic
Log in to reply
This topic has been deleted. Only users with topic management privileges can see it.
  • A Adam Arthur

    Here's a hypothetical. 5 years ago, before I was a programmer, I purchased a super specialized word processor from a small company. I paid $500.00 for the product, which is now discontinued. The original floppy disks are corrupt. For me, I still enjoy this program and want to move it onto other my new computer. Now, the program has a somewhat complex copy protection scheme built in. And I feel confident I could break it. So here's the moral question. Is it OK to break the copy protection since I did pay for it? If I were to, I wouldn't post the crack on the Internet or distribute it in anyway.

    K Offline
    K Offline
    Konstantin Vasserman
    wrote on last edited by
    #2

    I think that since you have paid for use of this program and you are not going to share it with others it is perfectly moral for you to find the way to make it work on your system even if it requires cracking. After all, the copy protection is a way to stop unauthorized use of the program. If you paid your money you are authorized. :)

    1 Reply Last reply
    0
    • A Adam Arthur

      Here's a hypothetical. 5 years ago, before I was a programmer, I purchased a super specialized word processor from a small company. I paid $500.00 for the product, which is now discontinued. The original floppy disks are corrupt. For me, I still enjoy this program and want to move it onto other my new computer. Now, the program has a somewhat complex copy protection scheme built in. And I feel confident I could break it. So here's the moral question. Is it OK to break the copy protection since I did pay for it? If I were to, I wouldn't post the crack on the Internet or distribute it in anyway.

      M Offline
      M Offline
      Michael Dunn
      wrote on last edited by
      #3

      "It's easier to ask for forgiveness than for permission." -- Unknown "Just do it!" -- Nike ;) --Mike-- My really out-of-date homepage "Why does anyone have a web page? Too much free time... not enough friends... justifying owning a computer." -- Noel Crane on Felicity Sonork - 100.10414 AcidHelm Big fan of Alyson Hannigan.

      1 Reply Last reply
      0
      • A Adam Arthur

        Here's a hypothetical. 5 years ago, before I was a programmer, I purchased a super specialized word processor from a small company. I paid $500.00 for the product, which is now discontinued. The original floppy disks are corrupt. For me, I still enjoy this program and want to move it onto other my new computer. Now, the program has a somewhat complex copy protection scheme built in. And I feel confident I could break it. So here's the moral question. Is it OK to break the copy protection since I did pay for it? If I were to, I wouldn't post the crack on the Internet or distribute it in anyway.

        J Offline
        J Offline
        Jamie Hale
        wrote on last edited by
        #4

        Morally, I'd say go for it. You bought it, you should be able to use it. However, it is quite illegal. :) But I have no qualms about piracy really. The whole paradigm has to change soon... J

        1 Reply Last reply
        0
        • A Adam Arthur

          Here's a hypothetical. 5 years ago, before I was a programmer, I purchased a super specialized word processor from a small company. I paid $500.00 for the product, which is now discontinued. The original floppy disks are corrupt. For me, I still enjoy this program and want to move it onto other my new computer. Now, the program has a somewhat complex copy protection scheme built in. And I feel confident I could break it. So here's the moral question. Is it OK to break the copy protection since I did pay for it? If I were to, I wouldn't post the crack on the Internet or distribute it in anyway.

          C Offline
          C Offline
          Christian Skovdal Andersen
          wrote on last edited by
          #5

          Actually, I think, the moral question is, that if you succeed, in breaking the copy protection, would it then be fair of you to keep, other less fortunate/skilled owners of the product, from enjoying it, by withholding the crack. In the first place, I think it is highly imorral of the company, to just disappear after having sold something, without having any intentions of making a escape route for the customers. I know it is illegal, but then again, you should propably ask youself if you would be hurting anybody by releasing the crack, and if not, if you maybe would save somebody from the griefs you have experienced yourself. Christian Skovdal Andersen "I have a plan so cunning you could put a tail on it and call it a weasel." -Edmund, Blackadder III

          T 1 Reply Last reply
          0
          • C Christian Skovdal Andersen

            Actually, I think, the moral question is, that if you succeed, in breaking the copy protection, would it then be fair of you to keep, other less fortunate/skilled owners of the product, from enjoying it, by withholding the crack. In the first place, I think it is highly imorral of the company, to just disappear after having sold something, without having any intentions of making a escape route for the customers. I know it is illegal, but then again, you should propably ask youself if you would be hurting anybody by releasing the crack, and if not, if you maybe would save somebody from the griefs you have experienced yourself. Christian Skovdal Andersen "I have a plan so cunning you could put a tail on it and call it a weasel." -Edmund, Blackadder III

            T Offline
            T Offline
            Tim Smith
            wrote on last edited by
            #6

            ROFL How dare those bastards go out of business. Tim Smith Descartes Systems Sciences, Inc.

            1 Reply Last reply
            0
            • A Adam Arthur

              Here's a hypothetical. 5 years ago, before I was a programmer, I purchased a super specialized word processor from a small company. I paid $500.00 for the product, which is now discontinued. The original floppy disks are corrupt. For me, I still enjoy this program and want to move it onto other my new computer. Now, the program has a somewhat complex copy protection scheme built in. And I feel confident I could break it. So here's the moral question. Is it OK to break the copy protection since I did pay for it? If I were to, I wouldn't post the crack on the Internet or distribute it in anyway.

              T Offline
              T Offline
              Tim Smith
              wrote on last edited by
              #7

              I say go for it and DON'T share the crack. Just because you might be using the product legally doesn't mean others would. IMHO, as long as you are following the intent of the original lisence, everything is cool. But as others mentioned, it might be illegal. Tim Smith Descartes Systems Sciences, Inc.

              1 Reply Last reply
              0
              • A Adam Arthur

                Here's a hypothetical. 5 years ago, before I was a programmer, I purchased a super specialized word processor from a small company. I paid $500.00 for the product, which is now discontinued. The original floppy disks are corrupt. For me, I still enjoy this program and want to move it onto other my new computer. Now, the program has a somewhat complex copy protection scheme built in. And I feel confident I could break it. So here's the moral question. Is it OK to break the copy protection since I did pay for it? If I were to, I wouldn't post the crack on the Internet or distribute it in anyway.

                D Offline
                D Offline
                Daniel Turini
                wrote on last edited by
                #8

                And why you can't just use Word ? Uncle Bill is watching you... ;P ;P Crivo Automated Credit Assessment

                1 Reply Last reply
                0
                • A Adam Arthur

                  Here's a hypothetical. 5 years ago, before I was a programmer, I purchased a super specialized word processor from a small company. I paid $500.00 for the product, which is now discontinued. The original floppy disks are corrupt. For me, I still enjoy this program and want to move it onto other my new computer. Now, the program has a somewhat complex copy protection scheme built in. And I feel confident I could break it. So here's the moral question. Is it OK to break the copy protection since I did pay for it? If I were to, I wouldn't post the crack on the Internet or distribute it in anyway.

                  C Offline
                  C Offline
                  Christian Graus
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #9

                  Of course. I've downloaded sofware from warez sites on the basis that I own it and my disks are corrupt or missing ( if missin,g I know I've not 'lent' then or given them away ). In essence copy protection denies our right to back up our legal software in order to stop people stealing it. Therefore there is nothing wrong with breaking that protection in order to protect your legal investment. Christian After all, there's nothing wrong with an elite as long as I'm allowed to be part of it!! - Mike Burston Oct 23, 2001

                  Sonork ID 100.10002:MeanManOz

                  I live in Bob's HungOut now

                  1 Reply Last reply
                  0
                  • A Adam Arthur

                    Here's a hypothetical. 5 years ago, before I was a programmer, I purchased a super specialized word processor from a small company. I paid $500.00 for the product, which is now discontinued. The original floppy disks are corrupt. For me, I still enjoy this program and want to move it onto other my new computer. Now, the program has a somewhat complex copy protection scheme built in. And I feel confident I could break it. So here's the moral question. Is it OK to break the copy protection since I did pay for it? If I were to, I wouldn't post the crack on the Internet or distribute it in anyway.

                    P Offline
                    P Offline
                    Paul Watson
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #10

                    Adam Arthur wrote: So here's the moral question. Is it OK to break the copy protection since I did pay for it? If I were to, I wouldn't post the crack on the Internet or distribute it in anyway. IMHO if it, it being whatever you are wanting to do, does not negatively affect anyone else then morally it is not wrong. If you want to hack a programme for yourself and no one else then there is nothing wrong with it. Technically, though, you are probably still breaking the law. However laws are not always right. regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass Cape Town, South Africa Do you Sonork? I do! 100.9903 Stormfront "The greatest thing you will ever learn is to love, and be loved in return" - Moulin Rouge

                    T 1 Reply Last reply
                    0
                    • P Paul Watson

                      Adam Arthur wrote: So here's the moral question. Is it OK to break the copy protection since I did pay for it? If I were to, I wouldn't post the crack on the Internet or distribute it in anyway. IMHO if it, it being whatever you are wanting to do, does not negatively affect anyone else then morally it is not wrong. If you want to hack a programme for yourself and no one else then there is nothing wrong with it. Technically, though, you are probably still breaking the law. However laws are not always right. regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass Cape Town, South Africa Do you Sonork? I do! 100.9903 Stormfront "The greatest thing you will ever learn is to love, and be loved in return" - Moulin Rouge

                      T Offline
                      T Offline
                      Tim Smith
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #11

                      About the only case you can make is that by hacking this program, he is not buying another package and thus hurting that company. But that is REALLY REALLY REALLY pushing it (to the point of absurdity). This is one of the few cases I am VERY liberal. He already paid for the right to use the software. He isn't going to be distributing the hack or warezing the software. So GO FOR IT. :) Tim Smith Descartes Systems Sciences, Inc.

                      1 Reply Last reply
                      0
                      Reply
                      • Reply as topic
                      Log in to reply
                      • Oldest to Newest
                      • Newest to Oldest
                      • Most Votes


                      • Login

                      • Don't have an account? Register

                      • Login or register to search.
                      • First post
                        Last post
                      0
                      • Categories
                      • Recent
                      • Tags
                      • Popular
                      • World
                      • Users
                      • Groups