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    Mike Gaskey
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    Kerry to NYT: 'We have to get back to the place we were, where terrorists are not the focus of our lives, but they're a nuisance'... Guess the USA still has some useless tall buildings. Mike "liberals are being driven crazy by the fact that Bush is so popular with Americans, and thus by the realization that anyone to the left of center is utterly marginal." JAMES TRAUB NY Times "I don't want a president who is friends with France or Germany" Me "I plan to vote for Kerry before I vote against him." Me "There you go again." RR "Flush the Johns" Stolen Quote

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      Kerry to NYT: 'We have to get back to the place we were, where terrorists are not the focus of our lives, but they're a nuisance'... Guess the USA still has some useless tall buildings. Mike "liberals are being driven crazy by the fact that Bush is so popular with Americans, and thus by the realization that anyone to the left of center is utterly marginal." JAMES TRAUB NY Times "I don't want a president who is friends with France or Germany" Me "I plan to vote for Kerry before I vote against him." Me "There you go again." RR "Flush the Johns" Stolen Quote

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      Doug Goulden
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      It worked for Clinton from the time of the first World Trade Center bombing.... maybe Kerry thinks he'll get lucky if he gets elected and Al Quada won't pick on us. That seems to be Spain's idea of how to deal with terrorism :rolleyes: Uptight Ex-Military Republican married to a Commie Lib - How weird is that?

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        Kerry to NYT: 'We have to get back to the place we were, where terrorists are not the focus of our lives, but they're a nuisance'... Guess the USA still has some useless tall buildings. Mike "liberals are being driven crazy by the fact that Bush is so popular with Americans, and thus by the realization that anyone to the left of center is utterly marginal." JAMES TRAUB NY Times "I don't want a president who is friends with France or Germany" Me "I plan to vote for Kerry before I vote against him." Me "There you go again." RR "Flush the Johns" Stolen Quote

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        Good one mind if I use it?


        We have to get back to the place we were, where terrorists are not the focus of our lives, but they're a nuisance.
        John Kerry

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          Kerry to NYT: 'We have to get back to the place we were, where terrorists are not the focus of our lives, but they're a nuisance'... Guess the USA still has some useless tall buildings. Mike "liberals are being driven crazy by the fact that Bush is so popular with Americans, and thus by the realization that anyone to the left of center is utterly marginal." JAMES TRAUB NY Times "I don't want a president who is friends with France or Germany" Me "I plan to vote for Kerry before I vote against him." Me "There you go again." RR "Flush the Johns" Stolen Quote

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          John Carson
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          Mike Gaskey wrote: Kerry to NYT: 'We have to get back to the place we were, where terrorists are not the focus of our lives, but they're a nuisance'... So it is possible for an American leader to have some perspective after all. I find that very reassuring. The full quote: "We have to get back to the place we were, where terrorists are not the focus of our lives, but they're a nuisance. As a former law-enforcement person, I know we're never going to end prostitution. We're never going to end illegal gambling. But we're going to reduce it, organized crime, to a level where it isn't on the rise. It isn't threatening people's lives every day, and fundamentally, it's something that you continue to fight, but it's not threatening the fabric of your life.'' John Carson "I believe in an America where the separation of church and state is absolute--where no Catholic prelate would tell the President (should he be Catholic) how to act, and no Protestant minister would tell his parishoners for whom to vote ... and where no man is denied public office merely because his religion differs from the President who might appoint him or the people who might elect him. - John F. Kennedy

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            Mike Gaskey wrote: Kerry to NYT: 'We have to get back to the place we were, where terrorists are not the focus of our lives, but they're a nuisance'... So it is possible for an American leader to have some perspective after all. I find that very reassuring. The full quote: "We have to get back to the place we were, where terrorists are not the focus of our lives, but they're a nuisance. As a former law-enforcement person, I know we're never going to end prostitution. We're never going to end illegal gambling. But we're going to reduce it, organized crime, to a level where it isn't on the rise. It isn't threatening people's lives every day, and fundamentally, it's something that you continue to fight, but it's not threatening the fabric of your life.'' John Carson "I believe in an America where the separation of church and state is absolute--where no Catholic prelate would tell the President (should he be Catholic) how to act, and no Protestant minister would tell his parishoners for whom to vote ... and where no man is denied public office merely because his religion differs from the President who might appoint him or the people who might elect him. - John F. Kennedy

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            That sounds like what Bush has been saying. We can't really win the "War on Terror", but we have to continue to hunt the terrorist down and bring them to justice. (mind you not a quote, but essentially what I've gotten from his speeches, etc...) BW The Biggest Loser


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              That sounds like what Bush has been saying. We can't really win the "War on Terror", but we have to continue to hunt the terrorist down and bring them to justice. (mind you not a quote, but essentially what I've gotten from his speeches, etc...) BW The Biggest Loser


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              Farm Donkey hauls some ass."
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              Alvaro Mendez
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              brianwelsch wrote: That sounds like what Bush has been saying. Riiiight. And here's more of what Bush has been saying: The Truth[^] Regards, Alvaro


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                It worked for Clinton from the time of the first World Trade Center bombing.... maybe Kerry thinks he'll get lucky if he gets elected and Al Quada won't pick on us. That seems to be Spain's idea of how to deal with terrorism :rolleyes: Uptight Ex-Military Republican married to a Commie Lib - How weird is that?

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                KaRl
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                You know nothing about Spain[^], don't you?


                Fold With Us! "I hated going to weddings. All the grandmas would poke me saying "You're next". They stopped that when I started doing it to them at funerals."

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                  That sounds like what Bush has been saying. We can't really win the "War on Terror", but we have to continue to hunt the terrorist down and bring them to justice. (mind you not a quote, but essentially what I've gotten from his speeches, etc...) BW The Biggest Loser


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                  Farm Donkey hauls some ass."
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                  KaRl
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                  brianwelsch wrote: That sounds like what Bush has been saying. We can't really win the "War on Terror", but we have to continue to hunt the terrorist down and bring them to justice That time I agreed with Bush, sadly he flip-flopped the day after[^]


                  Fold With Us! "I hated going to weddings. All the grandmas would poke me saying "You're next". They stopped that when I started doing it to them at funerals."

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                    You know nothing about Spain[^], don't you?


                    Fold With Us! "I hated going to weddings. All the grandmas would poke me saying "You're next". They stopped that when I started doing it to them at funerals."

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                    Doug Goulden
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                    I know the guy in office ran like a whipped puppy after the train explosion. Course that had a lot to do with the lack of guts of his electorate, but they still ran from Iraq. Uptight Ex-Military Republican married to a Commie Lib - How weird is that?

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                      I know the guy in office ran like a whipped puppy after the train explosion. Course that had a lot to do with the lack of guts of his electorate, but they still ran from Iraq. Uptight Ex-Military Republican married to a Commie Lib - How weird is that?

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                      Technically, the guy did what he should as an elected official and has presided to the will of the people (who didn't want to be in Iraq in the first place) and did what he said in his manifesto. Is that what you americans have come to expect and want, leaders who say one thing and do another? I wish Tony Blair would ante up and start saying what he intended doing rather than saying one thing and doing another the minute he gets power. Rhys A bus station is where a bus stops. A train station is where a train stops. On my desk I have a workstation... Vampireware /n/, a project, capable of sucking the lifeblood out of anyone unfortunate enough to be assigned to it, which never actually sees the light of day, but nonetheless refuses to die.

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                        brianwelsch wrote: That sounds like what Bush has been saying. We can't really win the "War on Terror", but we have to continue to hunt the terrorist down and bring them to justice That time I agreed with Bush, sadly he flip-flopped the day after[^]


                        Fold With Us! "I hated going to weddings. All the grandmas would poke me saying "You're next". They stopped that when I started doing it to them at funerals."

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                        K(arl) wrote: That time I agreed with Bush Then you agree with him on this issue, because that flip-flop was the unfortunate exception to what I've been hearing him say for quite some time. The "War on Terror" will be a long term effort. BW The Biggest Loser


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                        Farm Donkey hauls some ass."
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                          brianwelsch wrote: That sounds like what Bush has been saying. Riiiight. And here's more of what Bush has been saying: The Truth[^] Regards, Alvaro


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                          brianwelsch
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                          Well, instead of reading a bunch of random quotes that are intended to make him look bad, I've been listening to his speeches fairly consistently for 3 years and understand his take on the War on Terror to be that of a long term initiative, which is what Kerry said too. BW The Biggest Loser


                          "Farm Donkey makes us laugh.
                          Farm Donkey hauls some ass."
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                            I know the guy in office ran like a whipped puppy after the train explosion. Course that had a lot to do with the lack of guts of his electorate, but they still ran from Iraq. Uptight Ex-Military Republican married to a Commie Lib - How weird is that?

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                            KaRl
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                            Doug Goulden wrote: the guy in office ran like a whipped puppy after the train explosion That's a nonsense. Spain deals with terrorism for decades, and never "ran" in front of the threat. Zapatero (the guy) honored an electoral promise he made long before the bombing. The vast majority of Spaniards (90% IIRC) were against sending troops in Iraq in the first place, but the previous Prime Minister, Aznar, his brain obscured by a vision of Spain becoming a World Power by becoming Bush's puppy #2 (guess who is #1) didn't care about the opinion of his people. They aren't as gullible as the american electorate seems to be, you know.


                            Fold With Us! "I hated going to weddings. All the grandmas would poke me saying "You're next". They stopped that when I started doing it to them at funerals."

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                              K(arl) wrote: That time I agreed with Bush Then you agree with him on this issue, because that flip-flop was the unfortunate exception to what I've been hearing him say for quite some time. The "War on Terror" will be a long term effort. BW The Biggest Loser


                              "Farm Donkey makes us laugh.
                              Farm Donkey hauls some ass."
                              -The Stoves

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                              brianwelsch wrote: The "War on Terror" will be a long term effort. Stricto sensus, it is an unwinnable war, because there will always be a wacko ready to explode something to be heard. IMO, the mistake was to label the fight against terrorism a war, it sounds good on a marketing point of view, but it doesn't fit. For example, accomplices of 9/11 slaughters aren't consider as war criminals, they aren't soldiers, are they? They are murderers. Of course it will be a long term effort to reduce dramatically the threat, an effort which will need much more than military actions to succeed. Terrorists will fail. IMHO, they are making the same mistake than Germany, UK or the US did during WW2, believing the morale of the civilian population would collapse because of terror bombings. The morale never collapsed, neither in UK nor in Germany or Japan, on the contrary, these bombings gave powerful arguments to propagandas to bolster the civilian resistances.


                              Fold With Us! "I hated going to weddings. All the grandmas would poke me saying "You're next". They stopped that when I started doing it to them at funerals."

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                                Doug Goulden wrote: the guy in office ran like a whipped puppy after the train explosion That's a nonsense. Spain deals with terrorism for decades, and never "ran" in front of the threat. Zapatero (the guy) honored an electoral promise he made long before the bombing. The vast majority of Spaniards (90% IIRC) were against sending troops in Iraq in the first place, but the previous Prime Minister, Aznar, his brain obscured by a vision of Spain becoming a World Power by becoming Bush's puppy #2 (guess who is #1) didn't care about the opinion of his people. They aren't as gullible as the american electorate seems to be, you know.


                                Fold With Us! "I hated going to weddings. All the grandmas would poke me saying "You're next". They stopped that when I started doing it to them at funerals."

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                                Mike Gaskey
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                                K(arl) wrote: They aren't as gullible as the american electorate seems to be, you know. bullshit, pure and simple bullshit. Mike "liberals are being driven crazy by the fact that Bush is so popular with Americans, and thus by the realization that anyone to the left of center is utterly marginal." JAMES TRAUB NY Times "I don't want a president who is friends with France or Germany" Me "I plan to vote for Kerry before I vote against him." Me "There you go again." RR "Flush the Johns" Stolen Quote

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                                  K(arl) wrote: They aren't as gullible as the american electorate seems to be, you know. bullshit, pure and simple bullshit. Mike "liberals are being driven crazy by the fact that Bush is so popular with Americans, and thus by the realization that anyone to the left of center is utterly marginal." JAMES TRAUB NY Times "I don't want a president who is friends with France or Germany" Me "I plan to vote for Kerry before I vote against him." Me "There you go again." RR "Flush the Johns" Stolen Quote

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                                  KaRl
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                                  Yes, I know. But why couldn't I join the fishing party too? ;-P


                                  Fold With Us! "I hated going to weddings. All the grandmas would poke me saying "You're next". They stopped that when I started doing it to them at funerals."

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                                    brianwelsch wrote: The "War on Terror" will be a long term effort. Stricto sensus, it is an unwinnable war, because there will always be a wacko ready to explode something to be heard. IMO, the mistake was to label the fight against terrorism a war, it sounds good on a marketing point of view, but it doesn't fit. For example, accomplices of 9/11 slaughters aren't consider as war criminals, they aren't soldiers, are they? They are murderers. Of course it will be a long term effort to reduce dramatically the threat, an effort which will need much more than military actions to succeed. Terrorists will fail. IMHO, they are making the same mistake than Germany, UK or the US did during WW2, believing the morale of the civilian population would collapse because of terror bombings. The morale never collapsed, neither in UK nor in Germany or Japan, on the contrary, these bombings gave powerful arguments to propagandas to bolster the civilian resistances.


                                    Fold With Us! "I hated going to weddings. All the grandmas would poke me saying "You're next". They stopped that when I started doing it to them at funerals."

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                                    brianwelsch
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                                    K(arl) wrote: IMO, the mistake was to label the fight against terrorism a war, it sounds good on a marketing point of view, but it doesn't fit perhaps, but calling it the "Ongoing Global Effort to Reduce Military Strikes Against Civilian Targets" is sort long winded. Maybe OGERMACT? :~ BW The Biggest Loser


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                                      Well, instead of reading a bunch of random quotes that are intended to make him look bad, I've been listening to his speeches fairly consistently for 3 years and understand his take on the War on Terror to be that of a long term initiative, which is what Kerry said too. BW The Biggest Loser


                                      "Farm Donkey makes us laugh.
                                      Farm Donkey hauls some ass."
                                      -The Stoves

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                                      Alvaro Mendez
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                                      Well, if Bush is reelected and he keeps invading countries that have little or no ties to terrorist organizations, you can be sure it will be more than just a "long long" term initiative. And just think, we could have focused on Afghanistan and Bin Laden and left Hussein cornered like he was, and maybe now we wouldn't have the chaos in Iraq with the countless casualties and the many more to come. X| But hey, let's give Bush 4 more years, right?[^] Regards, Alvaro


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                                        Well, if Bush is reelected and he keeps invading countries that have little or no ties to terrorist organizations, you can be sure it will be more than just a "long long" term initiative. And just think, we could have focused on Afghanistan and Bin Laden and left Hussein cornered like he was, and maybe now we wouldn't have the chaos in Iraq with the countless casualties and the many more to come. X| But hey, let's give Bush 4 more years, right?[^] Regards, Alvaro


                                        Our enemies are innovative and resourceful, and so are we. They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people, and neither do we. - George W. Bush

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                                        brianwelsch
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                                        Alvaro Mendez wrote: let's give Bush 4 more years One can only hope. ;P BW The Biggest Loser


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                                          Doug Goulden wrote: the guy in office ran like a whipped puppy after the train explosion That's a nonsense. Spain deals with terrorism for decades, and never "ran" in front of the threat. Zapatero (the guy) honored an electoral promise he made long before the bombing. The vast majority of Spaniards (90% IIRC) were against sending troops in Iraq in the first place, but the previous Prime Minister, Aznar, his brain obscured by a vision of Spain becoming a World Power by becoming Bush's puppy #2 (guess who is #1) didn't care about the opinion of his people. They aren't as gullible as the american electorate seems to be, you know.


                                          Fold With Us! "I hated going to weddings. All the grandmas would poke me saying "You're next". They stopped that when I started doing it to them at funerals."

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                                          K(arl) wrote: They aren't as gullible as the american electorate seems to be, you know The idea that Spain (and the rest of Europe) is somehow safe from the threat of radical Islam, seems to be a more positive sign of your gullibility than mine ....... K(arl) wrote: his brain obscured by a vision of Spain becoming a World Power by becoming Bush's puppy #2 (guess who is #1) You sure can be a condescending SOB can't yah? ;) Uptight Ex-Military Republican married to a Commie Lib - How weird is that?

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