Taxes
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Add up every tax dollar you spend. Include everything, income tax (federal, state, and local), social security, medicare, real estate, personal property, sales tax, gas tax, etc. I have no idea what tax you are required to pay in your city, state, or country, but add them all up and divide by your salary. I estimated that 40-45% of everything I earn goes to the government.
i had tried doing this one time as well. i think ine came up somewhere between 39-40%. interesting...
-jim
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Add up every tax dollar you spend. Include everything, income tax (federal, state, and local), social security, medicare, real estate, personal property, sales tax, gas tax, etc. I have no idea what tax you are required to pay in your city, state, or country, but add them all up and divide by your salary. I estimated that 40-45% of everything I earn goes to the government.
And I drive on roads, attended school, am not getting robbed or murdered, and can enjoy protected nature areas. The fire three streets down didn't spread, our country is not under attack, we are learning more about our universe, our earth and ourselves, preventing disease, finding cures, inventing and improving technologies.
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Add up every tax dollar you spend. Include everything, income tax (federal, state, and local), social security, medicare, real estate, personal property, sales tax, gas tax, etc. I have no idea what tax you are required to pay in your city, state, or country, but add them all up and divide by your salary. I estimated that 40-45% of everything I earn goes to the government.
Wow, all I have to do is add up Income Tax and I am at 40% already. Take VAT, petrol, medical etc. and I am looking at a lot more than 40%. How much do you think you should be paying? regards, Paul Watson South Africa Michael Dunn wrote: "except the sod who voted this a 1, NO SOUP FOR YOU" Crikey! ain't life grand?
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And I drive on roads, attended school, am not getting robbed or murdered, and can enjoy protected nature areas. The fire three streets down didn't spread, our country is not under attack, we are learning more about our universe, our earth and ourselves, preventing disease, finding cures, inventing and improving technologies.
I don't think Brian was bitching about taxes, merely calculating how much he was paying. BW The Biggest Loser
"Farm Donkey makes us laugh.
Farm Donkey hauls some ass."
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And I drive on roads, attended school, am not getting robbed or murdered, and can enjoy protected nature areas. The fire three streets down didn't spread, our country is not under attack, we are learning more about our universe, our earth and ourselves, preventing disease, finding cures, inventing and improving technologies.
David Kentley wrote: And I drive on roads Which are generally paiod for by special bonds - more taxes David Kentley wrote: attended school The US school system does not compare very well with the rest of the industrial world - even though we spend much more than they do. David Kentley wrote: am not getting robbed or murdered Perhaps you personally but the US crime rate is gigantic comapred to other industrial nations. David Kentley wrote: enjoy protected nature areas Who the Gov generally regulates in accordance to a small number of peoples wishes making them useless to others who may wish to "enjoy" them in a different manner. Besides there is something incestious about the Federal Gov. owning State land. David Kentley wrote: our country is not under attack Well we are and for the left side of the isle all I hear is the cost - the cost David Kentley wrote: we are learning more about our universe ANd what they are learning is being funneled to private companies who make products that they sell back to us - even though they were developed with tax payer monies. We - as a Nation - are overtaxed. You may not believe it but we are. And a smaller and smaller percentage ( yea that 2% the Lefties are always screaming about ) are paying more and more of that burden. And when the Baby Boomers start hitting retirement and leave the tax rolls ( there goes a bunch of that magical 2% ) they are gonna come for those in the next level down to make up the difference. {RANT MODE} We need tax reform - now. The income tax is a regressive tax that punishes success - discourages savings and investment - places too much power in the hands of the Federal Government because all the IRS data is available to them - legally or illeagally - and lends itself far to easily to those in power who would like to engane in social engineering. We have in the last three decades lost so many liberties and freedoms that it is amazing there is no outcry from the brainwased public. We have a de facto National ID card - whose number is used to track our drivers license - taxes - credit scores - major purchases - property -practically everthing we do on a daily basis. The Federal Government is becoming Big Brother. And local Gov. are not much better. They pay for civil projects thru property taxes when 2/3 of those voting own no pro
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I don't think Brian was bitching about taxes, merely calculating how much he was paying. BW The Biggest Loser
"Farm Donkey makes us laugh.
Farm Donkey hauls some ass."
-The Stoves -
David Kentley wrote: And I drive on roads Which are generally paiod for by special bonds - more taxes David Kentley wrote: attended school The US school system does not compare very well with the rest of the industrial world - even though we spend much more than they do. David Kentley wrote: am not getting robbed or murdered Perhaps you personally but the US crime rate is gigantic comapred to other industrial nations. David Kentley wrote: enjoy protected nature areas Who the Gov generally regulates in accordance to a small number of peoples wishes making them useless to others who may wish to "enjoy" them in a different manner. Besides there is something incestious about the Federal Gov. owning State land. David Kentley wrote: our country is not under attack Well we are and for the left side of the isle all I hear is the cost - the cost David Kentley wrote: we are learning more about our universe ANd what they are learning is being funneled to private companies who make products that they sell back to us - even though they were developed with tax payer monies. We - as a Nation - are overtaxed. You may not believe it but we are. And a smaller and smaller percentage ( yea that 2% the Lefties are always screaming about ) are paying more and more of that burden. And when the Baby Boomers start hitting retirement and leave the tax rolls ( there goes a bunch of that magical 2% ) they are gonna come for those in the next level down to make up the difference. {RANT MODE} We need tax reform - now. The income tax is a regressive tax that punishes success - discourages savings and investment - places too much power in the hands of the Federal Government because all the IRS data is available to them - legally or illeagally - and lends itself far to easily to those in power who would like to engane in social engineering. We have in the last three decades lost so many liberties and freedoms that it is amazing there is no outcry from the brainwased public. We have a de facto National ID card - whose number is used to track our drivers license - taxes - credit scores - major purchases - property -practically everthing we do on a daily basis. The Federal Government is becoming Big Brother. And local Gov. are not much better. They pay for civil projects thru property taxes when 2/3 of those voting own no pro
Richard Stringer wrote: The US school system does not compare very well with the rest of the industrial world - even though we spend much more than they do. Got any stats on how much we pay for schools versus "the rest of the industrial world"?? "Reality is what refuses to go away when I stop believing in it." Philip K. Dick
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Add up every tax dollar you spend. Include everything, income tax (federal, state, and local), social security, medicare, real estate, personal property, sales tax, gas tax, etc. I have no idea what tax you are required to pay in your city, state, or country, but add them all up and divide by your salary. I estimated that 40-45% of everything I earn goes to the government.
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And I drive on roads, attended school, am not getting robbed or murdered, and can enjoy protected nature areas. The fire three streets down didn't spread, our country is not under attack, we are learning more about our universe, our earth and ourselves, preventing disease, finding cures, inventing and improving technologies.
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Wow, all I have to do is add up Income Tax and I am at 40% already. Take VAT, petrol, medical etc. and I am looking at a lot more than 40%. How much do you think you should be paying? regards, Paul Watson South Africa Michael Dunn wrote: "except the sod who voted this a 1, NO SOUP FOR YOU" Crikey! ain't life grand?
Paul Watson wrote: Wow, all I have to do is add up Income Tax and I am at 40% already. Take VAT, petrol, medical etc. and I am looking at a lot more than 40%. Wow, that's a lot. It certainly adds some perspective. Paul Watson wrote: How much do you think you should be paying? I don't know. I think I'm okay with how things are right now. I plan on voting for a real estate tax increase to help the local firefighters, but that'll be the last increase I vote for unless another tax expires.
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Don't forget all the "little" line item taxes on your utility bills. "Reality is what refuses to go away when I stop believing in it." Philip K. Dick
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Add up every tax dollar you spend. Include everything, income tax (federal, state, and local), social security, medicare, real estate, personal property, sales tax, gas tax, etc. I have no idea what tax you are required to pay in your city, state, or country, but add them all up and divide by your salary. I estimated that 40-45% of everything I earn goes to the government.
You're lucky. Every dollar I make as of now, I pay 10% to the government in GST. Then I pay 47 cents on what's left. Then whatever I buy with the bit that's left, 10% goes to the government as GST. That's unless I buy petrol, then about 45% goes to the government. Christian I have several lifelong friends that are New Yorkers but I have always gravitated toward the weirdo's. - Richard Stringer
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Add up every tax dollar you spend. Include everything, income tax (federal, state, and local), social security, medicare, real estate, personal property, sales tax, gas tax, etc. I have no idea what tax you are required to pay in your city, state, or country, but add them all up and divide by your salary. I estimated that 40-45% of everything I earn goes to the government.
Canada is so much worse! up to 48% (or something similar) income tax 15% sales tax on pretty much everything (including clothes) 51% tax on gas similar tax on alcohol and cigarettes them school taxes, municipal taxes etc etc. I'd say there's about 35% left, depending on what you buy of course. If your whole paycheck goes into gas, you don't have too much left. And... leave me alone with that free hospital and medical treatment bullsh*t. It's simply not true. Last year, I had to pay around 1000$ to the government for my medical insurance. This year, since I have access to a private medical insurance, I -MUST- (it's a law) take it. Another 3K right there. I don't mind too much paying for medical insurance. The problem is that when you need treatments, you can't have them! Hospitals are overcrowded. A friend of mine had to wait 16 (YES 16) hours at the hospital a month ago. Last summer, my knees hurt so bad I could barely walk. I wanted to see a doctor, but I couldn't find one that accepted new patients! DISCUSTING. I've never been able to see one since. That public health care system is the worst thing ever. God I hate this country sometimes. Feels better now :) Carl
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Add up every tax dollar you spend. Include everything, income tax (federal, state, and local), social security, medicare, real estate, personal property, sales tax, gas tax, etc. I have no idea what tax you are required to pay in your city, state, or country, but add them all up and divide by your salary. I estimated that 40-45% of everything I earn goes to the government.
So what? Taxes are an essential component of running a civil society. Bear in mind that much of that comes directly back to you in some form or another, others indirectly (Social Security immediately comes to mind),. And I guess you don't mind using the Internet, which was developed with tax dollars. In otehr words: don't like it? Go find an island to live on. Preferably one with no public water system.
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Canada is so much worse! up to 48% (or something similar) income tax 15% sales tax on pretty much everything (including clothes) 51% tax on gas similar tax on alcohol and cigarettes them school taxes, municipal taxes etc etc. I'd say there's about 35% left, depending on what you buy of course. If your whole paycheck goes into gas, you don't have too much left. And... leave me alone with that free hospital and medical treatment bullsh*t. It's simply not true. Last year, I had to pay around 1000$ to the government for my medical insurance. This year, since I have access to a private medical insurance, I -MUST- (it's a law) take it. Another 3K right there. I don't mind too much paying for medical insurance. The problem is that when you need treatments, you can't have them! Hospitals are overcrowded. A friend of mine had to wait 16 (YES 16) hours at the hospital a month ago. Last summer, my knees hurt so bad I could barely walk. I wanted to see a doctor, but I couldn't find one that accepted new patients! DISCUSTING. I've never been able to see one since. That public health care system is the worst thing ever. God I hate this country sometimes. Feels better now :) Carl
Carl Mercier wrote: God I hate this country sometimes And just think that we have many well informed people in the US who want a health care system along the same lines as the Canadian system. While I fully agree that the Gov. needs to do something ( what I have no idea ) about the ever increasing cost of medical care I don't believe that the Gov. should be involved directly in the health care business. Perhaps subsidies to purchase individual insurance and making it against the law to refuse coverage to anyone ? Richard "Under certain circumstances, profanity provides a relief denied even to prayer --Mark Twain (1835 - 1910)
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Canada is so much worse! up to 48% (or something similar) income tax 15% sales tax on pretty much everything (including clothes) 51% tax on gas similar tax on alcohol and cigarettes them school taxes, municipal taxes etc etc. I'd say there's about 35% left, depending on what you buy of course. If your whole paycheck goes into gas, you don't have too much left. And... leave me alone with that free hospital and medical treatment bullsh*t. It's simply not true. Last year, I had to pay around 1000$ to the government for my medical insurance. This year, since I have access to a private medical insurance, I -MUST- (it's a law) take it. Another 3K right there. I don't mind too much paying for medical insurance. The problem is that when you need treatments, you can't have them! Hospitals are overcrowded. A friend of mine had to wait 16 (YES 16) hours at the hospital a month ago. Last summer, my knees hurt so bad I could barely walk. I wanted to see a doctor, but I couldn't find one that accepted new patients! DISCUSTING. I've never been able to see one since. That public health care system is the worst thing ever. God I hate this country sometimes. Feels better now :) Carl
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Add up every tax dollar you spend. Include everything, income tax (federal, state, and local), social security, medicare, real estate, personal property, sales tax, gas tax, etc. I have no idea what tax you are required to pay in your city, state, or country, but add them all up and divide by your salary. I estimated that 40-45% of everything I earn goes to the government.
Here it's probably between 45 to 50%, but as long as taxes are decided by the elected representants of the People and that I am globally satisfied with the services I have in exchange (Health care, infrastructures, social nets, security, defence...), I don't really complain. Of course, I don't like some of the waste which are made, but I consider adjustments are needed, not a revolution. As long as I have a roof over my head and something to eat twice a day, does money that really matter? After all, "it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God" :)
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So what? Taxes are an essential component of running a civil society. Bear in mind that much of that comes directly back to you in some form or another, others indirectly (Social Security immediately comes to mind),. And I guess you don't mind using the Internet, which was developed with tax dollars. In otehr words: don't like it? Go find an island to live on. Preferably one with no public water system.
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Add up every tax dollar you spend. Include everything, income tax (federal, state, and local), social security, medicare, real estate, personal property, sales tax, gas tax, etc. I have no idea what tax you are required to pay in your city, state, or country, but add them all up and divide by your salary. I estimated that 40-45% of everything I earn goes to the government.
Brian Gideon wrote: I estimated that 40-45% of everything I earn goes to the government. I think I pay more tax on beer duty than on my actual income :rolleyes:
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So what? Taxes are an essential component of running a civil society. Bear in mind that much of that comes directly back to you in some form or another, others indirectly (Social Security immediately comes to mind),. And I guess you don't mind using the Internet, which was developed with tax dollars. In otehr words: don't like it? Go find an island to live on. Preferably one with no public water system.
Wrong, I have reason complain to when the politicians are corrupt and use tax money inappropriately for their own benefit, etc. And before you say prove it, here’s one of many examples: http://www.bestofneworleans.com/archives/2001/0522/views-pol.html. Jeremy Falcon