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And I drive on roads, attended school, am not getting robbed or murdered, and can enjoy protected nature areas. The fire three streets down didn't spread, our country is not under attack, we are learning more about our universe, our earth and ourselves, preventing disease, finding cures, inventing and improving technologies.
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Wow, all I have to do is add up Income Tax and I am at 40% already. Take VAT, petrol, medical etc. and I am looking at a lot more than 40%. How much do you think you should be paying? regards, Paul Watson South Africa Michael Dunn wrote: "except the sod who voted this a 1, NO SOUP FOR YOU" Crikey! ain't life grand?
Paul Watson wrote: Wow, all I have to do is add up Income Tax and I am at 40% already. Take VAT, petrol, medical etc. and I am looking at a lot more than 40%. Wow, that's a lot. It certainly adds some perspective. Paul Watson wrote: How much do you think you should be paying? I don't know. I think I'm okay with how things are right now. I plan on voting for a real estate tax increase to help the local firefighters, but that'll be the last increase I vote for unless another tax expires.
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Don't forget all the "little" line item taxes on your utility bills. "Reality is what refuses to go away when I stop believing in it." Philip K. Dick
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Add up every tax dollar you spend. Include everything, income tax (federal, state, and local), social security, medicare, real estate, personal property, sales tax, gas tax, etc. I have no idea what tax you are required to pay in your city, state, or country, but add them all up and divide by your salary. I estimated that 40-45% of everything I earn goes to the government.
You're lucky. Every dollar I make as of now, I pay 10% to the government in GST. Then I pay 47 cents on what's left. Then whatever I buy with the bit that's left, 10% goes to the government as GST. That's unless I buy petrol, then about 45% goes to the government. Christian I have several lifelong friends that are New Yorkers but I have always gravitated toward the weirdo's. - Richard Stringer
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Add up every tax dollar you spend. Include everything, income tax (federal, state, and local), social security, medicare, real estate, personal property, sales tax, gas tax, etc. I have no idea what tax you are required to pay in your city, state, or country, but add them all up and divide by your salary. I estimated that 40-45% of everything I earn goes to the government.
Canada is so much worse! up to 48% (or something similar) income tax 15% sales tax on pretty much everything (including clothes) 51% tax on gas similar tax on alcohol and cigarettes them school taxes, municipal taxes etc etc. I'd say there's about 35% left, depending on what you buy of course. If your whole paycheck goes into gas, you don't have too much left. And... leave me alone with that free hospital and medical treatment bullsh*t. It's simply not true. Last year, I had to pay around 1000$ to the government for my medical insurance. This year, since I have access to a private medical insurance, I -MUST- (it's a law) take it. Another 3K right there. I don't mind too much paying for medical insurance. The problem is that when you need treatments, you can't have them! Hospitals are overcrowded. A friend of mine had to wait 16 (YES 16) hours at the hospital a month ago. Last summer, my knees hurt so bad I could barely walk. I wanted to see a doctor, but I couldn't find one that accepted new patients! DISCUSTING. I've never been able to see one since. That public health care system is the worst thing ever. God I hate this country sometimes. Feels better now :) Carl
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Add up every tax dollar you spend. Include everything, income tax (federal, state, and local), social security, medicare, real estate, personal property, sales tax, gas tax, etc. I have no idea what tax you are required to pay in your city, state, or country, but add them all up and divide by your salary. I estimated that 40-45% of everything I earn goes to the government.
So what? Taxes are an essential component of running a civil society. Bear in mind that much of that comes directly back to you in some form or another, others indirectly (Social Security immediately comes to mind),. And I guess you don't mind using the Internet, which was developed with tax dollars. In otehr words: don't like it? Go find an island to live on. Preferably one with no public water system.
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Canada is so much worse! up to 48% (or something similar) income tax 15% sales tax on pretty much everything (including clothes) 51% tax on gas similar tax on alcohol and cigarettes them school taxes, municipal taxes etc etc. I'd say there's about 35% left, depending on what you buy of course. If your whole paycheck goes into gas, you don't have too much left. And... leave me alone with that free hospital and medical treatment bullsh*t. It's simply not true. Last year, I had to pay around 1000$ to the government for my medical insurance. This year, since I have access to a private medical insurance, I -MUST- (it's a law) take it. Another 3K right there. I don't mind too much paying for medical insurance. The problem is that when you need treatments, you can't have them! Hospitals are overcrowded. A friend of mine had to wait 16 (YES 16) hours at the hospital a month ago. Last summer, my knees hurt so bad I could barely walk. I wanted to see a doctor, but I couldn't find one that accepted new patients! DISCUSTING. I've never been able to see one since. That public health care system is the worst thing ever. God I hate this country sometimes. Feels better now :) Carl
Carl Mercier wrote: God I hate this country sometimes And just think that we have many well informed people in the US who want a health care system along the same lines as the Canadian system. While I fully agree that the Gov. needs to do something ( what I have no idea ) about the ever increasing cost of medical care I don't believe that the Gov. should be involved directly in the health care business. Perhaps subsidies to purchase individual insurance and making it against the law to refuse coverage to anyone ? Richard "Under certain circumstances, profanity provides a relief denied even to prayer --Mark Twain (1835 - 1910)
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Canada is so much worse! up to 48% (or something similar) income tax 15% sales tax on pretty much everything (including clothes) 51% tax on gas similar tax on alcohol and cigarettes them school taxes, municipal taxes etc etc. I'd say there's about 35% left, depending on what you buy of course. If your whole paycheck goes into gas, you don't have too much left. And... leave me alone with that free hospital and medical treatment bullsh*t. It's simply not true. Last year, I had to pay around 1000$ to the government for my medical insurance. This year, since I have access to a private medical insurance, I -MUST- (it's a law) take it. Another 3K right there. I don't mind too much paying for medical insurance. The problem is that when you need treatments, you can't have them! Hospitals are overcrowded. A friend of mine had to wait 16 (YES 16) hours at the hospital a month ago. Last summer, my knees hurt so bad I could barely walk. I wanted to see a doctor, but I couldn't find one that accepted new patients! DISCUSTING. I've never been able to see one since. That public health care system is the worst thing ever. God I hate this country sometimes. Feels better now :) Carl
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Add up every tax dollar you spend. Include everything, income tax (federal, state, and local), social security, medicare, real estate, personal property, sales tax, gas tax, etc. I have no idea what tax you are required to pay in your city, state, or country, but add them all up and divide by your salary. I estimated that 40-45% of everything I earn goes to the government.
Here it's probably between 45 to 50%, but as long as taxes are decided by the elected representants of the People and that I am globally satisfied with the services I have in exchange (Health care, infrastructures, social nets, security, defence...), I don't really complain. Of course, I don't like some of the waste which are made, but I consider adjustments are needed, not a revolution. As long as I have a roof over my head and something to eat twice a day, does money that really matter? After all, "it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God" :)
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So what? Taxes are an essential component of running a civil society. Bear in mind that much of that comes directly back to you in some form or another, others indirectly (Social Security immediately comes to mind),. And I guess you don't mind using the Internet, which was developed with tax dollars. In otehr words: don't like it? Go find an island to live on. Preferably one with no public water system.
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Add up every tax dollar you spend. Include everything, income tax (federal, state, and local), social security, medicare, real estate, personal property, sales tax, gas tax, etc. I have no idea what tax you are required to pay in your city, state, or country, but add them all up and divide by your salary. I estimated that 40-45% of everything I earn goes to the government.
Brian Gideon wrote: I estimated that 40-45% of everything I earn goes to the government. I think I pay more tax on beer duty than on my actual income :rolleyes:
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So what? Taxes are an essential component of running a civil society. Bear in mind that much of that comes directly back to you in some form or another, others indirectly (Social Security immediately comes to mind),. And I guess you don't mind using the Internet, which was developed with tax dollars. In otehr words: don't like it? Go find an island to live on. Preferably one with no public water system.
Wrong, I have reason complain to when the politicians are corrupt and use tax money inappropriately for their own benefit, etc. And before you say prove it, here’s one of many examples: http://www.bestofneworleans.com/archives/2001/0522/views-pol.html. Jeremy Falcon
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Wow, all I have to do is add up Income Tax and I am at 40% already. Take VAT, petrol, medical etc. and I am looking at a lot more than 40%. How much do you think you should be paying? regards, Paul Watson South Africa Michael Dunn wrote: "except the sod who voted this a 1, NO SOUP FOR YOU" Crikey! ain't life grand?
WOw! I just did the same and I'm over 50%. :omg: I also recently worked out that it costs £100 ($180US) per month to own my car before adding the petrol/tolls to run it anywhere. And BTW I paid off the loan to buy it 18 months ago. So that £100 is for insurance (which included Insurance Premium Tax, naturally), road tax, and a share of the servicing and MOT costs (assuming only minor repairs) over the year.
Vogon Building and Loan advise that your planet is at risk if you do not keep up repayments on any mortgage secured upon it. Please remember that the force of gravity can go up as well as down.
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Don't forget all the "little" line item taxes on your utility bills. "Reality is what refuses to go away when I stop believing in it." Philip K. Dick
Mike Mullikin wrote: the "little" line item taxes on your utility bills :confused: Mine says Electricity Xp per unit. Gas Xp per Unit (Mobile) Phone £X per month line rental + Xp per minute ADSL £X per month What are the little line items?
Vogon Building and Loan advise that your planet is at risk if you do not keep up repayments on any mortgage secured upon it. Please remember that the force of gravity can go up as well as down.
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You're lucky. Every dollar I make as of now, I pay 10% to the government in GST. Then I pay 47 cents on what's left. Then whatever I buy with the bit that's left, 10% goes to the government as GST. That's unless I buy petrol, then about 45% goes to the government. Christian I have several lifelong friends that are New Yorkers but I have always gravitated toward the weirdo's. - Richard Stringer
Christian Graus wrote: That's unless I buy petrol, then about 45% goes to the government You lucky bar steward! In the UK the tax element of petrol accounts for around 80% of the total payment. Or, to put it another way, a tax rate or 300% to 400% - For every £1 of petrol you pay an addition £3 to £4 in tax.
Vogon Building and Loan advise that your planet is at risk if you do not keep up repayments on any mortgage secured upon it. Please remember that the force of gravity can go up as well as down.
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Christian Graus wrote: That's unless I buy petrol, then about 45% goes to the government You lucky bar steward! In the UK the tax element of petrol accounts for around 80% of the total payment. Or, to put it another way, a tax rate or 300% to 400% - For every £1 of petrol you pay an addition £3 to £4 in tax.
Vogon Building and Loan advise that your planet is at risk if you do not keep up repayments on any mortgage secured upon it. Please remember that the force of gravity can go up as well as down.
Scary. But isn't the UK, like, this tiny little island where no-one needs much petrol anyhow ? I heard it was quicker to walk..... :P Seriously though, how bad is the income tax ? The fact that I pay over 50% in tax before I start is the killer IMO. Christian I have several lifelong friends that are New Yorkers but I have always gravitated toward the weirdo's. - Richard Stringer
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Carl Mercier wrote: God I hate this country sometimes And just think that we have many well informed people in the US who want a health care system along the same lines as the Canadian system. While I fully agree that the Gov. needs to do something ( what I have no idea ) about the ever increasing cost of medical care I don't believe that the Gov. should be involved directly in the health care business. Perhaps subsidies to purchase individual insurance and making it against the law to refuse coverage to anyone ? Richard "Under certain circumstances, profanity provides a relief denied even to prayer --Mark Twain (1835 - 1910)
Richard Stringer wrote: Perhaps subsidies to purchase individual insurance Terrible idea. They do that here, and every health professional I speak to agrees with me that the massive hikes in the price of health insurance are a direct result of the insurers knowing that the government is paying for most of it. We pay more now after rebates than we did then before they existed. Christian I have several lifelong friends that are New Yorkers but I have always gravitated toward the weirdo's. - Richard Stringer
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So what? Taxes are an essential component of running a civil society. Bear in mind that much of that comes directly back to you in some form or another, others indirectly (Social Security immediately comes to mind),. And I guess you don't mind using the Internet, which was developed with tax dollars. In otehr words: don't like it? Go find an island to live on. Preferably one with no public water system.
I believe Pitcairn is about to have some room, and a need for more able bodied male inhabitants. Christian I have several lifelong friends that are New Yorkers but I have always gravitated toward the weirdo's. - Richard Stringer
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Mike Mullikin wrote: the "little" line item taxes on your utility bills :confused: Mine says Electricity Xp per unit. Gas Xp per Unit (Mobile) Phone £X per month line rental + Xp per minute ADSL £X per month What are the little line items?
Vogon Building and Loan advise that your planet is at risk if you do not keep up repayments on any mortgage secured upon it. Please remember that the force of gravity can go up as well as down.
Colin Angus Mackay wrote: What are the little line items? Cable TV and Broadband: Monthly charge + $1.82 taxes and fees Natural Gas: Units Used x cost per unit + $18.35 Delivery charge* + $1.34 Enviromental Recovery Cost + $4.53 State Tax + $0.12 Utility Fund Tax * My natural gas is piped directly into my house, there is no real "delivery". :mad: Electricity: Total kWh Used x cost per unit + $1.12 Decommissioning adjustment + $3.56 Instrument Funding Charge + $0.71 Franchise Cost + $4.25 State Tax Telephone: Monthly charge w/ options + $9.10 Line Charge + $4.49 Federal Access Charge Cellular Telephone: Monthly charge + $0.39 Federal Tax + $0.91 Simplified Municipal Telecommunications Tax See what I mean? :omg: "Reality is what refuses to go away when I stop believing in it." Philip K. Dick
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Richard Stringer wrote: Perhaps subsidies to purchase individual insurance Terrible idea. They do that here, and every health professional I speak to agrees with me that the massive hikes in the price of health insurance are a direct result of the insurers knowing that the government is paying for most of it. We pay more now after rebates than we did then before they existed. Christian I have several lifelong friends that are New Yorkers but I have always gravitated toward the weirdo's. - Richard Stringer
I totally agree. Thats why I said perhaps. I, like most others , have no idea what to do about the situation and since I am not running for office I can admit it. Our leaders , both Democrat and Republican , put greater importance on being reelected than they do facing real issues like this head on and offening some major portion of the electorate. I do believe that most areas of the "health care industry" are partially to blame. Hospitals are not in competition with each other as far as prices are concerned. Doctors are becoming more and more like attornies in that there is no correlation between the service they perform and the price they charge. Increasing the use of the newest technology reduces the price in almost every business except health care. There is a long list of things that can be fixed but there is no political will to do so - by either party. Perhaps the ballot should be required by law to have a NONE OF THE ABOVE selection and if that carries the vote both parties have to put up two more candidates and we do it again. HA! Richard "Under certain circumstances, profanity provides a relief denied even to prayer --Mark Twain (1835 - 1910)