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I have a question for you. Why do you think OBL hit the World Trade Centers? They are full of innocent civilians. Wouldn't it make more sense to drive a plane into, say CIA or the Mossad HQ? I know they hit the Pentagon, but wouldn't he have made a better terrorist statement if he had just chosen better targets?
Better to rule in Hell, than serve in Heaven Milton
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Arsalan Malik wrote: OBL did not hit World Trade Centers or Pentagon! Just as a matter of interest...what would it take by way of evidence to convince you that OBL was behind the attacks? Or are your beliefs entirely immune to evidence? John Carson
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Americans are happy to accept worse dictator in history of mankind as their new president. This truly represents that most americans support this cowboy's massive killings in Afghanistan, Pakistan, Iraq, Palestine, America and elsewhere. This is the best that an evil democracy can produce, and he proved it in his previous term. American people were given a chance, but unfortunatly they could not avail it. Now this war will escalate, americans have voted for their death!:mad: ARSALAN MALIK
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Arsalan Malik wrote: OBL did not hit World Trade Centers or Pentagon! Just as a matter of interest...what would it take by way of evidence to convince you that OBL was behind the attacks? Or are your beliefs entirely immune to evidence? John Carson
First, give me any evidence to convince me! Don't say that he (OBL) admitted in the video, because those videos are proved fake. Given me logical arguments to prove OBL hands in 9/11. I have yet to hear a convincing logical answer! ARSALAN MALIK
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First, give me any evidence to convince me! Don't say that he (OBL) admitted in the video, because those videos are proved fake. Given me logical arguments to prove OBL hands in 9/11. I have yet to hear a convincing logical answer! ARSALAN MALIK
Arsalan Malik wrote: First, give me any evidence to convince me! I believe that would be a waste of my time because I don't believe that any evidence would convince you (perhaps a personal visit from OBL, but I can't arrange that and I am not even sure that would work --- you would probably think it was just an actor imitating him). If you believe that your opinions are based on evidence and not on pure prejudice, then you should be able to say what evidence you would find convincing. John Carson
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I've a feeling that comments like this, more than any other reason, allowed GWB to win. :sigh:
"if you vote me down, I shall become more powerful than you can possibly imagine" - Michael P. Butler.
You are rite! Americans had to vote for Bush, because they are evil culture. They had to elect best man to represent this extremist backward society, to become president of rogue states. They had none other option than GWB! ARSALAN MALIK
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You are rite! Americans had to vote for Bush, because they are evil culture. They had to elect best man to represent this extremist backward society, to become president of rogue states. They had none other option than GWB! ARSALAN MALIK
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You are rite! Americans had to vote for Bush, because they are evil culture. They had to elect best man to represent this extremist backward society, to become president of rogue states. They had none other option than GWB! ARSALAN MALIK
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Arsalan Malik wrote: First, give me any evidence to convince me! I believe that would be a waste of my time because I don't believe that any evidence would convince you (perhaps a personal visit from OBL, but I can't arrange that and I am not even sure that would work --- you would probably think it was just an actor imitating him). If you believe that your opinions are based on evidence and not on pure prejudice, then you should be able to say what evidence you would find convincing. John Carson
If I say, Bush is involved in 9/11 (infact this is the case), what evidence would you find convincing? ARSALAN MALIK
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:suss: Do you really believe all this or are you just trolling?
"if you vote me down, I shall become more powerful than you can possibly imagine" - Michael P. Butler.
I really have to believe all this, because this is the way americans have projected their image in the world:eek: ARSALAN MALIK
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I hate to inject fact into an irrational argument, but the United States didn't create Israel, the United Nations did. The American public had no say in any case - no one here voted on it - and only the UN Security Council had any say in the matter, since they had ultimate veto power over any UN Resolution. Many Americans support Israel; in this country Jews are permitted to exist and thrive, and many vote for assistance and pass on much of their personal fortunes. Followers of Islam are also welcome here, and mostly do rather well - this remains a land of opportunity for all... The situation was created and is perpetuated by deranged individuals motivated by blind hatred and delusions of moral superiority. They thrive on violence, and have no agenda other than to create havoc and pain in the lives of innocents. It's a thrill akin to that enjoyed by a rapist, but on a larger scale. Their followers are deluded by them with distortions of fact and promises of rewards in the hereafter into committing inhuman acts that would turn the stomach of Allah. They are psychotics - face it. Don't let yourself be taken in by their fantasies and self-serving lies. "If it's Snowbird season, why can't we shoot them?" - Overheard in a bar in Bullhead City
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Don't go in much for sublety, do ya? :~
"The time has come," the Walrus said, "To talk of many things..."Shog9 wrote: Don't go in much for sublety, do ya? I've gotta give him high marks for tenacity and gullibility, though.:-D "If it's Snowbird season, why can't we shoot them?" - Overheard in a bar in Bullhead City
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I hate to inject fact into an irrational argument, but the United States didn't create Israel, the United Nations did. The American public had no say in any case - no one here voted on it - and only the UN Security Council had any say in the matter, since they had ultimate veto power over any UN Resolution. Many Americans support Israel; in this country Jews are permitted to exist and thrive, and many vote for assistance and pass on much of their personal fortunes. Followers of Islam are also welcome here, and mostly do rather well - this remains a land of opportunity for all... The situation was created and is perpetuated by deranged individuals motivated by blind hatred and delusions of moral superiority. They thrive on violence, and have no agenda other than to create havoc and pain in the lives of innocents. It's a thrill akin to that enjoyed by a rapist, but on a larger scale. Their followers are deluded by them with distortions of fact and promises of rewards in the hereafter into committing inhuman acts that would turn the stomach of Allah. They are psychotics - face it. Don't let yourself be taken in by their fantasies and self-serving lies. "If it's Snowbird season, why can't we shoot them?" - Overheard in a bar in Bullhead City
United States didn't create Israel, the United Nations did Both US and UN are axis of evil. UN is backed by US, and essentially it is US who created this evil state and is still supporting it. You americans have been doing inhuman acts since the word go. Your culture is voilence, extremism, bullyism and hatered. this remains a land of opportunity Surley! this is a land of great opportunities for extremists, fundamentalists, terrorists:mad: ARSALAN MALIK
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United States didn't create Israel, the United Nations did Both US and UN are axis of evil. UN is backed by US, and essentially it is US who created this evil state and is still supporting it. You americans have been doing inhuman acts since the word go. Your culture is voilence, extremism, bullyism and hatered. this remains a land of opportunity Surley! this is a land of great opportunities for extremists, fundamentalists, terrorists:mad: ARSALAN MALIK
You really should get out more... Ignorance and stupidity are both fatal flaws, but ignorance is curable. Extremists? We just had two back-to-back elections wherein the winner barely cleared the bar - we're split 50-50 to such an extent that neither party had any chance of winning a clear majority. We have so much diversity that no opinion can gain a clear advantage, and all that we do must be decided amidst much compromise. We are a melting pot of opinion, not being directed by any demagogue. That's because we welcome all, and invite all to participate in the decision process. Arsalan Malik wrote: essentially it is US who created this evil state and is still supporting it. Would you care to offer any actual facts to support this statement, or are you satisfied with merely making a false statement and letting it stand? The main decision-making body of the UN at the time Israel was created consisted of: China, France, USSR, UK, USA, Argentina, Canada, Ukrainian SSR. The USA got only one vote. Arsalan Malik wrote: Your culture is voilence, extremism, bullyism and hatered. I'm a teacher - forgive me. Support your answer in an essay of 500 words or less. Name an example or three, if you can. Certainly we have made tactical and strategic errors; all nations do. Our leaders are no more perfect than anyone else's. Our leaders often do things in our names that we don't agree with, but we only get a chance to toss them out every four years. In many countries, especially in the mid-East, they never get that opportunity as long as their chosen fanatic lives. The primary reason that GWB won is that the towers were attacked; you don't grab the tail of a tiger and expect to have an easy ride. We're a passive people until we're attacked. Had bin Laden never struck, Kerry would have won. He's a wimp, but he has better hair. The swing vote would have gone to the guy with better hair, and an agenda to provide more socialist freebies for all. But the people are pissed. We did nothing, as a population, to deserve such a strike - we are not even informed as to what our representatives are doing "for us" most of the time. All that we know is that we are being taxed to death to do things that our government says are good for us and the world. Our only sin is that we tend to believe them. That's not much different from you believing the lies and distortions you've been taught. Japan thought we were an easy target, too, back in '41. W
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United States didn't create Israel, the United Nations did Both US and UN are axis of evil. UN is backed by US, and essentially it is US who created this evil state and is still supporting it. You americans have been doing inhuman acts since the word go. Your culture is voilence, extremism, bullyism and hatered. this remains a land of opportunity Surley! this is a land of great opportunities for extremists, fundamentalists, terrorists:mad: ARSALAN MALIK
You're full of shit. Obviously you've been so indoctrinated by lies, that you are no better than a fear spreading administration such as Bush's. You should be dragged out on Antarctica where you can fight among yourselves. This world would be such a better place without you guys. -- Weiter, weiter, ins verderben. Wir müssen leben bis wir sterben. Are you bright too?[^]
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Americans are happy to accept worse dictator in history of mankind as their new president. This truly represents that most americans support this cowboy's massive killings in Afghanistan, Pakistan, Iraq, Palestine, America and elsewhere. This is the best that an evil democracy can produce, and he proved it in his previous term. American people were given a chance, but unfortunatly they could not avail it. Now this war will escalate, americans have voted for their death!:mad: ARSALAN MALIK
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We have a deep history in this region. Please review your history, btw do you have a history at all? I don't think so? You were just a bunch of criminals landed on this continent 3-4 hundered years ago, and occupied it. ARSALAN MALIK
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You're full of shit. Obviously you've been so indoctrinated by lies, that you are no better than a fear spreading administration such as Bush's. You should be dragged out on Antarctica where you can fight among yourselves. This world would be such a better place without you guys. -- Weiter, weiter, ins verderben. Wir müssen leben bis wir sterben. Are you bright too?[^]
You should be dragged out on Antarctica I would love to visit Antarctica:-D This world would be such a better place without you guys Just wait and wait for that to happen..... ARSALAN MALIK
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If I say, Bush is involved in 9/11 (infact this is the case), what evidence would you find convincing? ARSALAN MALIK
Arsalan Malik wrote: If I say, Bush is involved in 9/11 (infact this is the case), what evidence would you find convincing? I would want the testimony of several people in positions of authority within the government who had access to the planning of the attack. I would want reputable people to do some cross checking of the facts they claimed. I would want an explanation of the motivation of those who actually flew the planes (all duly cross checked). I would want to see those making the claims persuasively defend them in the face of sceptical criticism. John Carson
