Arafat's cause of death revealed
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As far as evidence goes, while a Whitehouse official, several newspaper articles, and rumors around the web are hardly concrete enough to call truth, I would say there's enough evidence for plausible speculation. Regardless of whether anyone believes he died of AIDS, I think the truth is always a good thing. I can't think of a single case when the knowing a lie or nothing at all is inarguably better than knowing the truth, can you?
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Judah Himango wrote: As far as evidence goes, while a Whitehouse official, several newspaper articles, and rumors around the web are hardly concrete to call truth, I wouldn't say there's no evidence... Then you should read what I wrote again: I don't think you have much evidence Judah Himango wrote: Regardless of whether anyone believes he died of AIDS, I think the truth is always a good thing. I can't think of a single case when the knowing a lie or nothing at all is inarguably better than knowing the truth, can you? Yes. Although I can understand your confusion given your background as an engineer. As an engineer and in the world of science, we look at ways to understand the world and solve problems. Any untruth is potential for disaster. But, once you step over into the social world - the world of psychology, myth, and heros - you understand that what is untrue can, in fact, play a positive role. Consider these situations: If Martin Luther King and Gandhi were rabid hedonists and hypocrites, would it be better for the world to know them as they are, or does their mythological character inspire people towards nonviolence in a way that would make the truth harmful? What if you discovered evidence that humankind had no free will and there was no afterlife? Further, what if you knew that this information would cause humanity to slump into a depression and lead towards humankind's extinction? Would it be better to inform people, or is there some benefit to allowing humankind to remain blissfully ignorant of their own position? (Personally, I don't believe in God or an afterlife, and I will argue for that point, but in my articles on the subject, I warn people. I know that there are people who would be happier in ignorance. Myself, I reach for truth, but don't inflict it on other people.) What if the love of your life cheated on you. Would it be better to know it or would it be better that you remained in ignorance. Now, of course, there are questions of "will it happen again?" which argue for truth. But, what if it won't happen again, and what if you are insecure and you would have a tendency to obsess about it to the point that you would become miserable and would no longer look at her again, ultimately leading to a life of solitude and loneliness? There are even more mundane situations where a girl asks you if she is fat. I have a friend who has problems with an eating disorder. When she asks me i
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Did the world care when Magic Johnson contracted HIV?
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Judah Himango wrote: Did the world care when Magic Johnson contracted HIV? No.
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Judah Himango wrote: As far as evidence goes, while a Whitehouse official, several newspaper articles, and rumors around the web are hardly concrete to call truth, I wouldn't say there's no evidence... Then you should read what I wrote again: I don't think you have much evidence Judah Himango wrote: Regardless of whether anyone believes he died of AIDS, I think the truth is always a good thing. I can't think of a single case when the knowing a lie or nothing at all is inarguably better than knowing the truth, can you? Yes. Although I can understand your confusion given your background as an engineer. As an engineer and in the world of science, we look at ways to understand the world and solve problems. Any untruth is potential for disaster. But, once you step over into the social world - the world of psychology, myth, and heros - you understand that what is untrue can, in fact, play a positive role. Consider these situations: If Martin Luther King and Gandhi were rabid hedonists and hypocrites, would it be better for the world to know them as they are, or does their mythological character inspire people towards nonviolence in a way that would make the truth harmful? What if you discovered evidence that humankind had no free will and there was no afterlife? Further, what if you knew that this information would cause humanity to slump into a depression and lead towards humankind's extinction? Would it be better to inform people, or is there some benefit to allowing humankind to remain blissfully ignorant of their own position? (Personally, I don't believe in God or an afterlife, and I will argue for that point, but in my articles on the subject, I warn people. I know that there are people who would be happier in ignorance. Myself, I reach for truth, but don't inflict it on other people.) What if the love of your life cheated on you. Would it be better to know it or would it be better that you remained in ignorance. Now, of course, there are questions of "will it happen again?" which argue for truth. But, what if it won't happen again, and what if you are insecure and you would have a tendency to obsess about it to the point that you would become miserable and would no longer look at her again, ultimately leading to a life of solitude and loneliness? There are even more mundane situations where a girl asks you if she is fat. I have a friend who has problems with an eating disorder. When she asks me i
Very very interesting Brit. I would say that in an ideal world I would answer yes to all your questions, yes the world should be told of any truths, yes the fat girl should know she's fat, yes spouses should know when their partner's cheating. In a real world situation, I don't know what I'd do to be honest, probably I would answer with so no's. OTOH, looking at this objectively, what you are arguing for, then, is lying on the condition that people will better off. As a religious person myself, this seems wrong, even if people are better off. Of course, I can see your point; this brings up an interesting memory for me. I remember reading a nonfictional book several years ago about a religious Dutch family during WWII that would hide Jews in their home during the Holocaust. One day several German officers stormed their home looking for the hidden Jews. One of the officers demanded the family show them were the Jews were hiding. A daughter of the family, being religiously inclined to never lie, came out and said, "Under the table". The Jews were in fact hidden through a secret door under the table. The officer looked under the table, then swiftly came by and slapped the girl and said, "Do you take us for fools?" Anyways, interesting idea to tell the truth if it's only for the better. The above story is certainly one case where lying probably would've saved lives (yet, telling the truth suprisingly did too). Interesting stuff.
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Personally I could care less. I like to listen to Queen because I like the music, what Freddy M did in his spare time was his business. I don't particularly like Arafat, but my opinion of him is not changed by his sexuality or cause of death. Christian I have several lifelong friends that are New Yorkers but I have always gravitated toward the weirdo's. - Richard Stringer
Christian Graus wrote: Personally I could care less. I presume you mean that you could not care less, because otherwise that statement doesn't fit the logic of your argument.
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Christian Graus wrote: Personally I could care less. I presume you mean that you could not care less, because otherwise that statement doesn't fit the logic of your argument.
Erm..... *blush* Christian I have several lifelong friends that are New Yorkers but I have always gravitated toward the weirdo's. - Richard Stringer
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Very very interesting Brit. I would say that in an ideal world I would answer yes to all your questions, yes the world should be told of any truths, yes the fat girl should know she's fat, yes spouses should know when their partner's cheating. In a real world situation, I don't know what I'd do to be honest, probably I would answer with so no's. OTOH, looking at this objectively, what you are arguing for, then, is lying on the condition that people will better off. As a religious person myself, this seems wrong, even if people are better off. Of course, I can see your point; this brings up an interesting memory for me. I remember reading a nonfictional book several years ago about a religious Dutch family during WWII that would hide Jews in their home during the Holocaust. One day several German officers stormed their home looking for the hidden Jews. One of the officers demanded the family show them were the Jews were hiding. A daughter of the family, being religiously inclined to never lie, came out and said, "Under the table". The Jews were in fact hidden through a secret door under the table. The officer looked under the table, then swiftly came by and slapped the girl and said, "Do you take us for fools?" Anyways, interesting idea to tell the truth if it's only for the better. The above story is certainly one case where lying probably would've saved lives (yet, telling the truth suprisingly did too). Interesting stuff.
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Sometimes just not saying is better than being brutally honest. Omitting information that might be harmful wouldn't necessarily be a bad thing. Case in point, my Grandmother told me about her brother who had committed suicide. She found him and the note that he had left. My great-grandmother loved her son more than anything else, and my Grandmother took the note to prevent her Mother finding it. She did show it to my great-grandfather who told her she had done the right thing. She never regretted it and as far as my great-grandmother knew her son had died working on his car in the garage. There would have been no good from hurting my great-grandmother, and to this day no one else knows what was in that note. Some things are better left unknown. Uptight Ex-Military Republican married to a Commie Lib - How weird is that?
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It's been known for some time now among parts of the Israeli public that Arafat was bisexual, and now rumors are spreading over the net and on some newspapers that Arafat may have died of the AIDS virus. The French Government will not release the reasons for his death or condition. It is to be kept a family secret. It does not take an expert to figure out what killed this man. The indications over the weeks were that his immune system was defective and that he suffered from some kind of virus. All the symptoms pointed to Aids (HIV). This is the only disease that disgraces and humiliates a person, and the only one that someone would want kept secret. Now stories are[^] appearing[^] that suggest his illness is being kept under wraps to preserve his apparent good standing in the world community. One Whitehouse rep is quoted as saying, "We know he has a blood disease that is depressing his immune system. We know that he has suddenly dropped considerable weight -- possibly as much as one-third of all his body weight. We know that he is suffering intermittent mental dysfunction. What does this sound like?" It'll be interesting to see if the French government will continue to supress the truth and keep it a secret.
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Judah Himango wrote: It's been known for some time now among parts of the Israeli public that Arafat was bisexual, and now rumors are spreading over the net and on some newspapers that Arafat may have died of the AIDS virus. Argh! Lies, lies, damned lies, and religious propaganda! Non-heterosexual people doesn't get HIV/AIDS any easier than heterosexual. It's when people don't practice safe sex when it venereal diseases are transmitted. It doesn't matter if where you put your wiener, what you put on it before sex is what matters. If Arafat was straight, curved or gay, I have no clue. Frankly, I don't care nor is it any of my business. -- Weiter, weiter, ins verderben. Wir müssen leben bis wir sterben. I blog too now[^]
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Yes, and years down the road, these rumors will be archived in the banals of history and scrounged up as historical facts down the road. :( If enough people say it or believe it, it must be the truth. :wtf: Glad some people are above such trivial pursuits. "For that one fraction of a second, you were open to options you would never have considered. That is the exploration that awaits you. Not mapping stars and studying nebula, but charting the unknown possibilities of existence." - Q (Star Trek: The Next Generation) ^ Blog
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Hmm... Judah. Not a muslim name. Could there be a personal agenda here ? I have just been looking at the recent pictures of him on news sits and you are quite wrong. The major symptom of AIDS is extreme weight loss. I know this because I watched it kill a friend over five years. Arafat showed no weight loss whatsoever. Now go away and hang your head in shame at such tactics. Elaine :rose: The tigress is here :-D
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Judah Himango wrote: As far as evidence goes, while a Whitehouse official, several newspaper articles, and rumors around the web are hardly concrete to call truth, I wouldn't say there's no evidence... Then you should read what I wrote again: I don't think you have much evidence Judah Himango wrote: Regardless of whether anyone believes he died of AIDS, I think the truth is always a good thing. I can't think of a single case when the knowing a lie or nothing at all is inarguably better than knowing the truth, can you? Yes. Although I can understand your confusion given your background as an engineer. As an engineer and in the world of science, we look at ways to understand the world and solve problems. Any untruth is potential for disaster. But, once you step over into the social world - the world of psychology, myth, and heros - you understand that what is untrue can, in fact, play a positive role. Consider these situations: If Martin Luther King and Gandhi were rabid hedonists and hypocrites, would it be better for the world to know them as they are, or does their mythological character inspire people towards nonviolence in a way that would make the truth harmful? What if you discovered evidence that humankind had no free will and there was no afterlife? Further, what if you knew that this information would cause humanity to slump into a depression and lead towards humankind's extinction? Would it be better to inform people, or is there some benefit to allowing humankind to remain blissfully ignorant of their own position? (Personally, I don't believe in God or an afterlife, and I will argue for that point, but in my articles on the subject, I warn people. I know that there are people who would be happier in ignorance. Myself, I reach for truth, but don't inflict it on other people.) What if the love of your life cheated on you. Would it be better to know it or would it be better that you remained in ignorance. Now, of course, there are questions of "will it happen again?" which argue for truth. But, what if it won't happen again, and what if you are insecure and you would have a tendency to obsess about it to the point that you would become miserable and would no longer look at her again, ultimately leading to a life of solitude and loneliness? There are even more mundane situations where a girl asks you if she is fat. I have a friend who has problems with an eating disorder. When she asks me i
Excellent post. I used to believe that knowing the truth was always better, that knowledge was always better than ignorance. I still have a very strong bias toward truth, but it is a kind of fundamentalism to believe that people are always better off to know the truth. Social experience strongly suggests otherwise. I also agree with you that it is human flaws and weakness that sometimes make ignorance better. Becoming better able to accept the truth is an important part of personal development. John Carson
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Radiation is not particularly selective. If that was involved, I would expect to see his bodygaurds begin to drop soon... Why would anyone waste time arguing with an accountant about anything? Their sole function is to record what happenned, and any higher aspirations are mere delusions of grandeur. On the ladder of productive contributions they are the little rubber pads at the bottom that keep the thing from sliding out from under you. - Roger Wright
Agreed. Time should either reveal the truth of or put to rest this speculation.
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Christian Graus wrote: Personally I could care less. I presume you mean that you could not care less, because otherwise that statement doesn't fit the logic of your argument.
I hereby assing you as Protector Of Words and Meaning in the CP Realm. Rise and claim your new post, Sir Mackay... :P regards, Paul Watson South Africa Michael Dunn wrote: "except the sod who voted this a 1, NO SOUP FOR YOU" Crikey! ain't life grand?
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It's been known for some time now among parts of the Israeli public that Arafat was bisexual, and now rumors are spreading over the net and on some newspapers that Arafat may have died of the AIDS virus. The French Government will not release the reasons for his death or condition. It is to be kept a family secret. It does not take an expert to figure out what killed this man. The indications over the weeks were that his immune system was defective and that he suffered from some kind of virus. All the symptoms pointed to Aids (HIV). This is the only disease that disgraces and humiliates a person, and the only one that someone would want kept secret. Now stories are[^] appearing[^] that suggest his illness is being kept under wraps to preserve his apparent good standing in the world community. One Whitehouse rep is quoted as saying, "We know he has a blood disease that is depressing his immune system. We know that he has suddenly dropped considerable weight -- possibly as much as one-third of all his body weight. We know that he is suffering intermittent mental dysfunction. What does this sound like?" It'll be interesting to see if the French government will continue to supress the truth and keep it a secret.
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It is no sin to die of AIDS. You are spreading the intolerance and hatred by trying to pin it to him. regards, Paul Watson South Africa Michael Dunn wrote: "except the sod who voted this a 1, NO SOUP FOR YOU" Crikey! ain't life grand?
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It is no sin to die of AIDS. You are spreading the intolerance and hatred by trying to pin it to him. regards, Paul Watson South Africa Michael Dunn wrote: "except the sod who voted this a 1, NO SOUP FOR YOU" Crikey! ain't life grand?
I agree, it is no sin to die of AIDS. I would argue, it is a sin to commit acts of homosexuality. Regardless though, I'm just curious about the cause of death, to think the purpose was to spread intolerance (of AIDS victims??) is foolish.
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I agree, it is no sin to die of AIDS. I would argue, it is a sin to commit acts of homosexuality. Regardless though, I'm just curious about the cause of death, to think the purpose was to spread intolerance (of AIDS victims??) is foolish.
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>It's been known for some time now among parts of the Israeli public that Arafat was bisexual, and now rumors are spreading over the net and on some newspapers that Arafat may have died of the AIDS virus. It is all too convenient that you place bisexual and AIDS in the same sentence and then go on to show your homophobia. Anyway. I am also curious about what he died from. If it turns out to be AIDS then I think no less and no more of the man. regards, Paul Watson South Africa Michael Dunn wrote: "except the sod who voted this a 1, NO SOUP FOR YOU" Crikey! ain't life grand?
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The man is dead. What difference could the cause of his death possibly make in the grand scheme of things? Would it not be better to let his family preserve whatever dignity they can, and simply move on. Is there any benefit to using his death to sow more seeds of hatred? Weren't enough sown during his life? Why would anyone waste time arguing with an accountant about anything? Their sole function is to record what happenned, and any higher aspirations are mere delusions of grandeur. On the ladder of productive contributions they are the little rubber pads at the bottom that keep the thing from sliding out from under you. - Roger Wright
Would it not be better to let his family preserve whatever dignity they can, and simply move on. When somebody had no dignity in life he doesn't deserve any in death.
A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have evolved from a simpler system that worked just fine. - Murphy's Law of Computing
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>It's been known for some time now among parts of the Israeli public that Arafat was bisexual, and now rumors are spreading over the net and on some newspapers that Arafat may have died of the AIDS virus. It is all too convenient that you place bisexual and AIDS in the same sentence and then go on to show your homophobia. Anyway. I am also curious about what he died from. If it turns out to be AIDS then I think no less and no more of the man. regards, Paul Watson South Africa Michael Dunn wrote: "except the sod who voted this a 1, NO SOUP FOR YOU" Crikey! ain't life grand?
Ah I understand your thinking now -- mention bisexual and AIDS in the same sentence, and that makes one a homophobe. I believe homosexuality is morally wrong. Call me names if that makes you feel better, but I believe it's wrong. I don't know if Arafat died of AIDS, but I'm curious to know if the rumors are true. As the Apostle Paul said in Romans 1:27: Likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust for one another, men with men committing what is shameful, and receiving in themselves the penalty of their error which was due.
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Judah Himango wrote: It's been known for some time now among parts of the Israeli public that Arafat was bisexual, and now rumors are spreading over the net and on some newspapers that Arafat may have died of the AIDS virus. Argh! Lies, lies, damned lies, and religious propaganda! Non-heterosexual people doesn't get HIV/AIDS any easier than heterosexual. It's when people don't practice safe sex when it venereal diseases are transmitted. It doesn't matter if where you put your wiener, what you put on it before sex is what matters. If Arafat was straight, curved or gay, I have no clue. Frankly, I don't care nor is it any of my business. -- Weiter, weiter, ins verderben. Wir müssen leben bis wir sterben. I blog too now[^]
It's a well known fact that AIDS is the largest disease among homosexuals. As Paul, an early apostle of Jesus said, "Likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust for one another, men with men committing what is shameful, and receiving in themselves the penalty of their error which was due."
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It's a well known fact that AIDS is the largest disease among homosexuals. As Paul, an early apostle of Jesus said, "Likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust for one another, men with men committing what is shameful, and receiving in themselves the penalty of their error which was due."
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It is also a well known fact that homosexual people tend to be more of the "swinger" type than heterosexual people. If you compare a heterosexual and a homosexual group, which are both as sexually active, you'll see that there's little or no difference. If HIV was more contageous for homosexual people, then I really want you to explain the situation in Africa for me. Gayness != HIV magnet. Judah Himango wrote: As Paul, an early apostle of Jesus said You know.. interpretations of what's written in that book have caused more loss of lives than AIDS has. -- Weiter, weiter, ins verderben. Wir müssen leben bis wir sterben. I blog too now[^]
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It is no sin to die of AIDS. You are spreading the intolerance and hatred by trying to pin it to him. regards, Paul Watson South Africa Michael Dunn wrote: "except the sod who voted this a 1, NO SOUP FOR YOU" Crikey! ain't life grand?
No, but in the large majority of cases someone who got AIDS got it while sinning. If you maintain the standard christian life, of only sleeping with your husband/wife, no affairs, no pre-martial sex, and no divorce/remarriage; your risk of getting AIDS is almost non-existance. (There should also be a part about needle sharing in there) Note that few who call them themselves christians live up to that standard. I don't know exactly what muslims believe, but as I understand it, their teachings would also prevent AIDS.
