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  • M Michael P Butler

    Colin Powell to resign top US job[^] Goodbye to the only guy in Bush's administration I had any respect for. Michael CP Blog [^]

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    Jeff Bogan
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    Given all the conflicts between the WH and State Dep, I was expecting ol' Colin to be the first to go. Gonna be a thoroughly right wing gov. from now on I suspect.

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    • J Jeff Bogan

      Given all the conflicts between the WH and State Dep, I was expecting ol' Colin to be the first to go. Gonna be a thoroughly right wing gov. from now on I suspect.

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      Jim A Johnson
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      COmpletely expected. I wish he'd had the balls to do it eighteen months ago when he should have realized how thoroughly he'd been hoodwinked.

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      • M Michael P Butler

        Colin Powell to resign top US job[^] Goodbye to the only guy in Bush's administration I had any respect for. Michael CP Blog [^]

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        Michael P Butler wrote: Goodbye to the only guy in Bush's administration I had any respect for. Darn, I was hoping he would give another speech on those Iraqi WMD trucks.[^] again. Later, JoeSox Word of the Day: chortle http://dictionary.reference.com/wordoftheday/ CPMCv1.0 ↔ humanaiproject.org ↔ joeswammi.com/sinfest

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        • M Michael P Butler

          Colin Powell to resign top US job[^] Goodbye to the only guy in Bush's administration I had any respect for. Michael CP Blog [^]

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          Mike Gaskey
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          Michael P Butler wrote: only guy in Bush's administration I had any respect for. and I was so worried. Mike "liberals were driven crazy by Bush." Me To: Dixie Sluts, M. Moore, the Boss, Bon Jovi, Clooney, Penn, Babs, Soros, Redford, Gore, Daschle - "bye bye" Me "I voted for W." Me "There you go again." RR "Flushed the Johns" Me

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          • M Michael P Butler

            Colin Powell to resign top US job[^] Goodbye to the only guy in Bush's administration I had any respect for. Michael CP Blog [^]

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            Chris Losinger
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            Reuters thinks so[^]. she seems like a more-willing liar than Powell was, so that's a plus for W. and, at least as SecState, she'd be out of the way of the day-to-day national security decisions, so that's a plus for the rest of us. of course, some people think she's done a great job - though i've never seen a list of her accomplishments that could support such a notion. (and, hey, feel free to provide a list, instead of voting and running, like a coward). Software | Cleek

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              Reuters thinks so[^]. she seems like a more-willing liar than Powell was, so that's a plus for W. and, at least as SecState, she'd be out of the way of the day-to-day national security decisions, so that's a plus for the rest of us. of course, some people think she's done a great job - though i've never seen a list of her accomplishments that could support such a notion. (and, hey, feel free to provide a list, instead of voting and running, like a coward). Software | Cleek

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              Jim A Johnson
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              Chris Losinger wrote: of course, some people think she's done a great job Well, she's clearly a "team player", and for a lot of people that's the top criterion. Gawd, what a shi++y diplomat she would be, though.

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                Reuters thinks so[^]. she seems like a more-willing liar than Powell was, so that's a plus for W. and, at least as SecState, she'd be out of the way of the day-to-day national security decisions, so that's a plus for the rest of us. of course, some people think she's done a great job - though i've never seen a list of her accomplishments that could support such a notion. (and, hey, feel free to provide a list, instead of voting and running, like a coward). Software | Cleek

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                Chris Losinger wrote: some people think she's done a great job - though i've never seen a list of her accomplishments that could support such a notion Reminds me of a certain MA senator. :rolleyes: "Reality is what refuses to go away when I stop believing in it." Philip K. Dick

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                  Reuters thinks so[^]. she seems like a more-willing liar than Powell was, so that's a plus for W. and, at least as SecState, she'd be out of the way of the day-to-day national security decisions, so that's a plus for the rest of us. of course, some people think she's done a great job - though i've never seen a list of her accomplishments that could support such a notion. (and, hey, feel free to provide a list, instead of voting and running, like a coward). Software | Cleek

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                  ^ She reminds me of the character played by Reese Witherspoon in "Election". She's 49 or so, never married, no kids...overly ambitious, hope she is happy. Looking for me in cyberspace? I am the electron with the red hat, occupying 3rd sit on the left of the data bus. by the way, perl stinks. "I believe god invented man, because he was disappointed in the monkey" Mark Twain

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                    Chris Losinger wrote: some people think she's done a great job - though i've never seen a list of her accomplishments that could support such a notion Reminds me of a certain MA senator. :rolleyes: "Reality is what refuses to go away when I stop believing in it." Philip K. Dick

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                    you mean the one that's been elected over and over by his constituents for over 20 years ? Software | Cleek

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                      Reuters thinks so[^]. she seems like a more-willing liar than Powell was, so that's a plus for W. and, at least as SecState, she'd be out of the way of the day-to-day national security decisions, so that's a plus for the rest of us. of course, some people think she's done a great job - though i've never seen a list of her accomplishments that could support such a notion. (and, hey, feel free to provide a list, instead of voting and running, like a coward). Software | Cleek

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                      Not to be to contrary, but when you are dealing with National Security, most of what you do is probably not going to make it into the papers, at least it won't if you don't screw it up. As for her qualifications, she did serve under the elder Bush and dealt with Soviet and Eastern Europe. She seems to be an extremely intelligent individual that is well thought of by a lot of people. A brief biography for those who might want to actually learn who they are bitching about. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Condoleezza_Rice[^] Uptight Ex-Military Republican married to a Commie Lib - How weird is that?

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                        you mean the one that's been elected over and over by his constituents for over 20 years ? Software | Cleek

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                        Yeah the same people who elected Ted "I didn't mean to drown her" Kennedy Uptight Ex-Military Republican married to a Commie Lib - How weird is that?

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                          Not to be to contrary, but when you are dealing with National Security, most of what you do is probably not going to make it into the papers, at least it won't if you don't screw it up. As for her qualifications, she did serve under the elder Bush and dealt with Soviet and Eastern Europe. She seems to be an extremely intelligent individual that is well thought of by a lot of people. A brief biography for those who might want to actually learn who they are bitching about. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Condoleezza_Rice[^] Uptight Ex-Military Republican married to a Commie Lib - How weird is that?

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                          Doug Goulden wrote: , but when you are dealing with National Security, most of what you do is probably not going to make it into the papers can you tell me why you think she did a good job as NSA ? i'm trying to find out why people support her. what we do know about her record is that she failed to emphasize the urgency of the terrorism problem pre-9/11; that she doesn't read the memos from the CIA (see "remove the Yellowcake reference!"); that she apparently isn't much of a "fixxer-upper" as her husband boss says she is; and that she's more than willing to go on TV and distort the truth so much that even the pundits laugh at her; and that her area of expertise would've come in handy 30 years ago, but now is as useful as a degree in Austro-Hungarian foreign policy. Software | Cleek

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                            Yeah the same people who elected Ted "I didn't mean to drown her" Kennedy Uptight Ex-Military Republican married to a Commie Lib - How weird is that?

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                            so, you hate the people of MA ? Software | Cleek

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                              so, you hate the people of MA ? Software | Cleek

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                              Chris Losinger wrote: so, you hate the people of MA ? No, I have family there, but I think their choice in politicians sucks :laugh: Uptight Ex-Military Republican married to a Commie Lib - How weird is that?

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                                Doug Goulden wrote: , but when you are dealing with National Security, most of what you do is probably not going to make it into the papers can you tell me why you think she did a good job as NSA ? i'm trying to find out why people support her. what we do know about her record is that she failed to emphasize the urgency of the terrorism problem pre-9/11; that she doesn't read the memos from the CIA (see "remove the Yellowcake reference!"); that she apparently isn't much of a "fixxer-upper" as her husband boss says she is; and that she's more than willing to go on TV and distort the truth so much that even the pundits laugh at her; and that her area of expertise would've come in handy 30 years ago, but now is as useful as a degree in Austro-Hungarian foreign policy. Software | Cleek

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                                I support her based on the impressions, rather than fact. Is that being naive? I don't think so, because most of us have very little idea what is actually happening inside of the intelligence community. As for the pre 9/11 failures, I think that everyone failed. Not meaning to sound partisan (honestly), but if anyone had been paying attention to bin Laden like they should have been he would have been dead back in the 90's. Somewhat OT, but my thought is that we hogtied our intelligence agencies back in the 70's when the system was reformed after some abuses. We had way to much oversight and not nearly enough intelligence. I see our intelligence community as being somewhat like the Vietnam war, the politicians have tasked them with duties, and restricted them in ways that have kept them from getting the job done, just like they did with the military in Vietnam. Uptight Ex-Military Republican married to a Commie Lib - How weird is that?

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                                  Not to be to contrary, but when you are dealing with National Security, most of what you do is probably not going to make it into the papers, at least it won't if you don't screw it up. As for her qualifications, she did serve under the elder Bush and dealt with Soviet and Eastern Europe. She seems to be an extremely intelligent individual that is well thought of by a lot of people. A brief biography for those who might want to actually learn who they are bitching about. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Condoleezza_Rice[^] Uptight Ex-Military Republican married to a Commie Lib - How weird is that?

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                                  mystro_AKA_kokie
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                                  ouhh she turned 50 yesterday.:) Looking for me in cyberspace? I am the electron with the red hat, occupying 3rd sit on the left of the data bus. by the way, perl stinks. "I believe god invented man, because he was disappointed in the monkey" Mark Twain

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                                    you mean the one that's been elected over and over by his constituents for over 20 years ? Software | Cleek

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                                    Chris Losinger wrote: you mean the one that's been elected over and over by his constituents for over 20 years? ... 6 sponsored bills and the lowest Senate attendance record in modern history later he fails in a bid for the Whitehouse. Yep! That's him! ;) "Reality is what refuses to go away when I stop believing in it." Philip K. Dick

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                                      Chris Losinger wrote: you mean the one that's been elected over and over by his constituents for over 20 years? ... 6 sponsored bills and the lowest Senate attendance record in modern history later he fails in a bid for the Whitehouse. Yep! That's him! ;) "Reality is what refuses to go away when I stop believing in it." Philip K. Dick

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                                      Mike Mullikin wrote: 6 sponsored bills well, 667[^] bills and amendments sponsored, 4117 co-sponsored. note that that's a higher total than St McCain. Mike Mullikin wrote: the lowest Senate attendance record in modern history got a cite for that ? Mike Mullikin wrote: he fails in a bid for the Whitehouse with the second highest number of votes ever, holding his opponent to the narrowest electoral count in quite a long time. not a bad showing. Software | Cleek

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                                        Mike Mullikin wrote: 6 sponsored bills well, 667[^] bills and amendments sponsored, 4117 co-sponsored. note that that's a higher total than St McCain. Mike Mullikin wrote: the lowest Senate attendance record in modern history got a cite for that ? Mike Mullikin wrote: he fails in a bid for the Whitehouse with the second highest number of votes ever, holding his opponent to the narrowest electoral count in quite a long time. not a bad showing. Software | Cleek

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                                        Chris Losinger wrote: got a cite for that ? I could post crap data from a blog but... nobody would believe it. :| "Reality is what refuses to go away when I stop believing in it." Philip K. Dick

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                                          I support her based on the impressions, rather than fact. Is that being naive? I don't think so, because most of us have very little idea what is actually happening inside of the intelligence community. As for the pre 9/11 failures, I think that everyone failed. Not meaning to sound partisan (honestly), but if anyone had been paying attention to bin Laden like they should have been he would have been dead back in the 90's. Somewhat OT, but my thought is that we hogtied our intelligence agencies back in the 70's when the system was reformed after some abuses. We had way to much oversight and not nearly enough intelligence. I see our intelligence community as being somewhat like the Vietnam war, the politicians have tasked them with duties, and restricted them in ways that have kept them from getting the job done, just like they did with the military in Vietnam. Uptight Ex-Military Republican married to a Commie Lib - How weird is that?

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                                          Colin Angus Mackay
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                                          Doug Goulden wrote: I support her based on the impressions, rather than fact. Is that being naive? I dislike her based on impressions too. Actually, after seeing her on TV a few times I came to the conclusion that "Condi" was actually a contraction of condescending rather than Condollizza. She is, IMO, the Dolores Umbridge of the American political system.


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