Colin Powell to resign top US job
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Reuters thinks so[^]. she seems like a more-willing liar than Powell was, so that's a plus for W. and, at least as SecState, she'd be out of the way of the day-to-day national security decisions, so that's a plus for the rest of us. of course, some people think she's done a great job - though i've never seen a list of her accomplishments that could support such a notion. (and, hey, feel free to provide a list, instead of voting and running, like a coward). Software | Cleek
Not to be to contrary, but when you are dealing with National Security, most of what you do is probably not going to make it into the papers, at least it won't if you don't screw it up. As for her qualifications, she did serve under the elder Bush and dealt with Soviet and Eastern Europe. She seems to be an extremely intelligent individual that is well thought of by a lot of people. A brief biography for those who might want to actually learn who they are bitching about. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Condoleezza_Rice[^] Uptight Ex-Military Republican married to a Commie Lib - How weird is that?
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Yeah the same people who elected Ted "I didn't mean to drown her" Kennedy Uptight Ex-Military Republican married to a Commie Lib - How weird is that?
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Not to be to contrary, but when you are dealing with National Security, most of what you do is probably not going to make it into the papers, at least it won't if you don't screw it up. As for her qualifications, she did serve under the elder Bush and dealt with Soviet and Eastern Europe. She seems to be an extremely intelligent individual that is well thought of by a lot of people. A brief biography for those who might want to actually learn who they are bitching about. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Condoleezza_Rice[^] Uptight Ex-Military Republican married to a Commie Lib - How weird is that?
Doug Goulden wrote: , but when you are dealing with National Security, most of what you do is probably not going to make it into the papers can you tell me why you think she did a good job as NSA ? i'm trying to find out why people support her. what we do know about her record is that she failed to emphasize the urgency of the terrorism problem pre-9/11; that she doesn't read the memos from the CIA (see "remove the Yellowcake reference!"); that she apparently isn't much of a "fixxer-upper" as her husband boss says she is; and that she's more than willing to go on TV and distort the truth so much that even the pundits laugh at her; and that her area of expertise would've come in handy 30 years ago, but now is as useful as a degree in Austro-Hungarian foreign policy. Software | Cleek
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Yeah the same people who elected Ted "I didn't mean to drown her" Kennedy Uptight Ex-Military Republican married to a Commie Lib - How weird is that?
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Chris Losinger wrote: so, you hate the people of MA ? No, I have family there, but I think their choice in politicians sucks :laugh: Uptight Ex-Military Republican married to a Commie Lib - How weird is that?
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Doug Goulden wrote: , but when you are dealing with National Security, most of what you do is probably not going to make it into the papers can you tell me why you think she did a good job as NSA ? i'm trying to find out why people support her. what we do know about her record is that she failed to emphasize the urgency of the terrorism problem pre-9/11; that she doesn't read the memos from the CIA (see "remove the Yellowcake reference!"); that she apparently isn't much of a "fixxer-upper" as her husband boss says she is; and that she's more than willing to go on TV and distort the truth so much that even the pundits laugh at her; and that her area of expertise would've come in handy 30 years ago, but now is as useful as a degree in Austro-Hungarian foreign policy. Software | Cleek
I support her based on the impressions, rather than fact. Is that being naive? I don't think so, because most of us have very little idea what is actually happening inside of the intelligence community. As for the pre 9/11 failures, I think that everyone failed. Not meaning to sound partisan (honestly), but if anyone had been paying attention to bin Laden like they should have been he would have been dead back in the 90's. Somewhat OT, but my thought is that we hogtied our intelligence agencies back in the 70's when the system was reformed after some abuses. We had way to much oversight and not nearly enough intelligence. I see our intelligence community as being somewhat like the Vietnam war, the politicians have tasked them with duties, and restricted them in ways that have kept them from getting the job done, just like they did with the military in Vietnam. Uptight Ex-Military Republican married to a Commie Lib - How weird is that?
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Not to be to contrary, but when you are dealing with National Security, most of what you do is probably not going to make it into the papers, at least it won't if you don't screw it up. As for her qualifications, she did serve under the elder Bush and dealt with Soviet and Eastern Europe. She seems to be an extremely intelligent individual that is well thought of by a lot of people. A brief biography for those who might want to actually learn who they are bitching about. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Condoleezza_Rice[^] Uptight Ex-Military Republican married to a Commie Lib - How weird is that?
ouhh she turned 50 yesterday.:) Looking for me in cyberspace? I am the electron with the red hat, occupying 3rd sit on the left of the data bus. by the way, perl stinks. "I believe god invented man, because he was disappointed in the monkey" Mark Twain
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Chris Losinger wrote: you mean the one that's been elected over and over by his constituents for over 20 years? ... 6 sponsored bills and the lowest Senate attendance record in modern history later he fails in a bid for the Whitehouse. Yep! That's him! ;) "Reality is what refuses to go away when I stop believing in it." Philip K. Dick
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Chris Losinger wrote: you mean the one that's been elected over and over by his constituents for over 20 years? ... 6 sponsored bills and the lowest Senate attendance record in modern history later he fails in a bid for the Whitehouse. Yep! That's him! ;) "Reality is what refuses to go away when I stop believing in it." Philip K. Dick
Mike Mullikin wrote: 6 sponsored bills well, 667[^] bills and amendments sponsored, 4117 co-sponsored. note that that's a higher total than St McCain. Mike Mullikin wrote: the lowest Senate attendance record in modern history got a cite for that ? Mike Mullikin wrote: he fails in a bid for the Whitehouse with the second highest number of votes ever, holding his opponent to the narrowest electoral count in quite a long time. not a bad showing. Software | Cleek
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Mike Mullikin wrote: 6 sponsored bills well, 667[^] bills and amendments sponsored, 4117 co-sponsored. note that that's a higher total than St McCain. Mike Mullikin wrote: the lowest Senate attendance record in modern history got a cite for that ? Mike Mullikin wrote: he fails in a bid for the Whitehouse with the second highest number of votes ever, holding his opponent to the narrowest electoral count in quite a long time. not a bad showing. Software | Cleek
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I support her based on the impressions, rather than fact. Is that being naive? I don't think so, because most of us have very little idea what is actually happening inside of the intelligence community. As for the pre 9/11 failures, I think that everyone failed. Not meaning to sound partisan (honestly), but if anyone had been paying attention to bin Laden like they should have been he would have been dead back in the 90's. Somewhat OT, but my thought is that we hogtied our intelligence agencies back in the 70's when the system was reformed after some abuses. We had way to much oversight and not nearly enough intelligence. I see our intelligence community as being somewhat like the Vietnam war, the politicians have tasked them with duties, and restricted them in ways that have kept them from getting the job done, just like they did with the military in Vietnam. Uptight Ex-Military Republican married to a Commie Lib - How weird is that?
Doug Goulden wrote: I support her based on the impressions, rather than fact. Is that being naive? I dislike her based on impressions too. Actually, after seeing her on TV a few times I came to the conclusion that "Condi" was actually a contraction of condescending rather than Condollizza. She is, IMO, the Dolores Umbridge of the American political system.
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I support her based on the impressions, rather than fact. Is that being naive? I don't think so, because most of us have very little idea what is actually happening inside of the intelligence community. As for the pre 9/11 failures, I think that everyone failed. Not meaning to sound partisan (honestly), but if anyone had been paying attention to bin Laden like they should have been he would have been dead back in the 90's. Somewhat OT, but my thought is that we hogtied our intelligence agencies back in the 70's when the system was reformed after some abuses. We had way to much oversight and not nearly enough intelligence. I see our intelligence community as being somewhat like the Vietnam war, the politicians have tasked them with duties, and restricted them in ways that have kept them from getting the job done, just like they did with the military in Vietnam. Uptight Ex-Military Republican married to a Commie Lib - How weird is that?
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Chris Losinger wrote: got a cite for that ? I could post crap data from a blog but... nobody would believe it. :| "Reality is what refuses to go away when I stop believing in it." Philip K. Dick
Did you even go look? He listed the first 50 with links to a "thomas.loc.gov" domain. He also listed the top level site which would have allowed you to go see the other 617 if you wanted to. Nice response. :| Chris Richardson
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Did you even go look? He listed the first 50 with links to a "thomas.loc.gov" domain. He also listed the top level site which would have allowed you to go see the other 617 if you wanted to. Nice response. :| Chris Richardson
In my original post I screwed up and meant to write "laws" instead of "bills". My source.[^] Enjoy! <Edit> Actually there are 5 - here goes: S.791: Authorizes $53 million over four years to provide grants to woman-owned small businesses. (1999) S.1206*: Names a federal building in Waltham, Massachusetts after Frederick C. Murphy, who was killed in action during World War II and awarded (posthumously) the Medal of Honor. (1994) S.1636: A save-the-dolphins measure aiming “to improve the program to reduce the incidental taking of marine mammals during the course of commercial fishing operations.” (1994) S.1563: Funding the National Sea Grant College Program, which supports university-based research, public education, and other projects “to promote better understanding, conservation and use of America’s coastal resources.” (1991) S.423: Granting a visa and admission to the U.S. as a permanent resident to Kil Joon Yu Callahan. (1987) * My personal favorite The people from MA got screwed. X| </Edit> "Reality is what refuses to go away when I stop believing in it." Philip K. Dick
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In my original post I screwed up and meant to write "laws" instead of "bills". My source.[^] Enjoy! <Edit> Actually there are 5 - here goes: S.791: Authorizes $53 million over four years to provide grants to woman-owned small businesses. (1999) S.1206*: Names a federal building in Waltham, Massachusetts after Frederick C. Murphy, who was killed in action during World War II and awarded (posthumously) the Medal of Honor. (1994) S.1636: A save-the-dolphins measure aiming “to improve the program to reduce the incidental taking of marine mammals during the course of commercial fishing operations.” (1994) S.1563: Funding the National Sea Grant College Program, which supports university-based research, public education, and other projects “to promote better understanding, conservation and use of America’s coastal resources.” (1991) S.423: Granting a visa and admission to the U.S. as a permanent resident to Kil Joon Yu Callahan. (1987) * My personal favorite The people from MA got screwed. X| </Edit> "Reality is what refuses to go away when I stop believing in it." Philip K. Dick
Gotcha :) Mike Mullikin wrote: The people from MA got screwed. IYHO. IMHO, the people of the United States got screwed by GWB and his administration. But, to a lot of people on this board, I'm just another sore loser. So, stop being a sore loser (especially if you don't live in MA, cause if you don't, you're not even a loser, you're just sore ;):P ). Chris Richardson