Crash Analysis: Well done, Microsoft
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Chris Maunder wrote: So my laptop is, again, dying a slow painful death. I can't understand why manufacturers can't make a laptop that is ultralight, super fast, cheap as chips and can survive being dropped from a great height onto hard floors. Repeatedly. Maybe there's just no demand for it... coz then you wouldnt have to buy another one. I bet the OS code looks remarkably similar to
if ((user == "Maunder") && (TRUE == DoICrashToday()) && (TRUE == HasTheBuggerBeenCodingOnMe()) { BlueScreenForAbit(); PretendToReboot(); FakeSmartyPantsCrashAnalysisToImpress(); BlameBadRam(); // no way is it OUR code. SendToBogusWebPage() WaitForNewUser(); } ...well...something like that anyway Bryce --- To paraphrase Fred Dagg - the views expressed in this post are bloody good ones. --
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bryce wrote: TRUE == DoICrashToday TRUE == HasTheBuggerBeenCodingOnMe Never, never, compare truthness by equality for TRUE. In some headers, FALSE and TRUE are defined as
0and!FALSErespectively. Thus, a function which returns10is returning a truth value.. Should never happen theoretically, but it does. :) -- Weiter, weiter, ins verderben. Wir müssen leben bis wir sterben. I blog too now[^] -
So my laptop is, again, dying a slow painful death. I can't understand why manufacturers can't make a laptop that is ultralight, super fast, cheap as chips and can survive being dropped from a great height onto hard floors. Repeatedly. Maybe there's just no demand for it... Anyway, so my laptop blue screened and on reboot XP came up with the crash analysis. Verdict: faulty RAM. Not only did it post mortem, it went to the correct page, offered advice and then provided a link to download a memory diagnosis application. This wasn't an OS issue, rather a hardware issue, but still the OS did what it could to store, diagnose and report the problem. Well done. cheers, Chris Maunder
There was a car manufacturer some time ago which was called: "Minerva" I think. These cars where of very very high quality and never broke down. The company went bankrupt. Why? People never had to go on maintainance. The cars never broke down and never had to be repaired. Same thing goes for your laptop. If it doesn't break down, there is no reason to buy a new one. "If I don't see you in this world, I'll see you in the next one... and don't be late." ~ Jimi Hendrix
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So my laptop is, again, dying a slow painful death. I can't understand why manufacturers can't make a laptop that is ultralight, super fast, cheap as chips and can survive being dropped from a great height onto hard floors. Repeatedly. Maybe there's just no demand for it... Anyway, so my laptop blue screened and on reboot XP came up with the crash analysis. Verdict: faulty RAM. Not only did it post mortem, it went to the correct page, offered advice and then provided a link to download a memory diagnosis application. This wasn't an OS issue, rather a hardware issue, but still the OS did what it could to store, diagnose and report the problem. Well done. cheers, Chris Maunder
Nice to know that NT is starting to have these kind of detection things built in. You probably already know that Solaris has these, and can work around the faulty RAM on the fly, and do its best to get on with things. but I'm guessing the hardware has to be designed a certain way as well to allow for hotswapping memory and processors.
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bryce wrote: TRUE == DoICrashToday TRUE == HasTheBuggerBeenCodingOnMe Never, never, compare truthness by equality for TRUE. In some headers, FALSE and TRUE are defined as
0and!FALSErespectively. Thus, a function which returns10is returning a truth value.. Should never happen theoretically, but it does. :) -- Weiter, weiter, ins verderben. Wir müssen leben bis wir sterben. I blog too now[^]If you'll forgive my quoting Pontius Pilate... 'What is truth?' :) Rob Manderson I'm working on a version for Visual Lisp++ My (occasional) blog http://blogs.wdevs.com/ultramaroon/[^]
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If you'll forgive my quoting Pontius Pilate... 'What is truth?' :) Rob Manderson I'm working on a version for Visual Lisp++ My (occasional) blog http://blogs.wdevs.com/ultramaroon/[^]
Rob Manderson wrote: 'What is truth?' Letting a murderer go free.. ;) -- Weiter, weiter, ins verderben. Wir müssen leben bis wir sterben. I blog too now[^]
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Rob Manderson wrote: 'What is truth?' Letting a murderer go free.. ;) -- Weiter, weiter, ins verderben. Wir müssen leben bis wir sterben. I blog too now[^]
Good answer. Someday I'll post my thoughts on 'The Passion of the Christ'. Sufficient for now to say that it was a film worth seeing... Rob Manderson I'm working on a version for Visual Lisp++ My (occasional) blog http://blogs.wdevs.com/ultramaroon/[^]
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So my laptop is, again, dying a slow painful death. I can't understand why manufacturers can't make a laptop that is ultralight, super fast, cheap as chips and can survive being dropped from a great height onto hard floors. Repeatedly. Maybe there's just no demand for it... Anyway, so my laptop blue screened and on reboot XP came up with the crash analysis. Verdict: faulty RAM. Not only did it post mortem, it went to the correct page, offered advice and then provided a link to download a memory diagnosis application. This wasn't an OS issue, rather a hardware issue, but still the OS did what it could to store, diagnose and report the problem. Well done. cheers, Chris Maunder
Hubris rampant! Can Jörgen and I lay a claim to the shortest route ever from Microsoft to Theology? Rob Manderson I'm working on a version for Visual Lisp++ My (occasional) blog http://blogs.wdevs.com/ultramaroon/[^]
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bryce wrote: TRUE == DoICrashToday TRUE == HasTheBuggerBeenCodingOnMe Never, never, compare truthness by equality for TRUE. In some headers, FALSE and TRUE are defined as
0and!FALSErespectively. Thus, a function which returns10is returning a truth value.. Should never happen theoretically, but it does. :) -- Weiter, weiter, ins verderben. Wir müssen leben bis wir sterben. I blog too now[^]oh bugger off and get a sense of humour u plonker :) Bryce --- To paraphrase Fred Dagg - the views expressed in this post are bloody good ones. --
Publitor, making Pubmed easy. http://www.sohocode.com/publitorOur kids book :The Snot Goblin
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So my laptop is, again, dying a slow painful death. I can't understand why manufacturers can't make a laptop that is ultralight, super fast, cheap as chips and can survive being dropped from a great height onto hard floors. Repeatedly. Maybe there's just no demand for it... Anyway, so my laptop blue screened and on reboot XP came up with the crash analysis. Verdict: faulty RAM. Not only did it post mortem, it went to the correct page, offered advice and then provided a link to download a memory diagnosis application. This wasn't an OS issue, rather a hardware issue, but still the OS did what it could to store, diagnose and report the problem. Well done. cheers, Chris Maunder
Chris Maunder wrote: Anyway, so my laptop blue screened and on reboot XP came up with the crash analysis. Verdict: faulty RAM Next time, buy ECC memory chips. They're expensive, but your time finding "what's going on this **** machine?" is more expensive :) Yes, even I am blogging now!
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oh bugger off and get a sense of humour u plonker :) Bryce --- To paraphrase Fred Dagg - the views expressed in this post are bloody good ones. --
Publitor, making Pubmed easy. http://www.sohocode.com/publitorOur kids book :The Snot Goblin
Sorry, I don't have a good sense of humour. I do however have a good sense of humor. ;) -- Weiter, weiter, ins verderben. Wir müssen leben bis wir sterben. I blog too now[^]
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There was a car manufacturer some time ago which was called: "Minerva" I think. These cars where of very very high quality and never broke down. The company went bankrupt. Why? People never had to go on maintainance. The cars never broke down and never had to be repaired. Same thing goes for your laptop. If it doesn't break down, there is no reason to buy a new one. "If I don't see you in this world, I'll see you in the next one... and don't be late." ~ Jimi Hendrix
V. wrote: Same thing goes for your laptop. If it doesn't break down, there is no reason to buy a new one. That's how Sony are surviving in the laptop market then. :mad: Anna :rose: Riverblade Ltd - Software Consultancy Services Anna's Place | Tears and Laughter "Be yourself - not what others think you should be" - Marcia Graesch "Anna's just a sexy-looking lesbian tart" - A friend, trying to wind me up. It didn't work.
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Chris Maunder wrote: So my laptop is, again, dying a slow painful death. I can't understand why manufacturers can't make a laptop that is ultralight, super fast, cheap as chips and can survive being dropped from a great height onto hard floors. Repeatedly. Maybe there's just no demand for it... coz then you wouldnt have to buy another one. I bet the OS code looks remarkably similar to
if ((user == "Maunder") && (TRUE == DoICrashToday()) && (TRUE == HasTheBuggerBeenCodingOnMe()) { BlueScreenForAbit(); PretendToReboot(); FakeSmartyPantsCrashAnalysisToImpress(); BlameBadRam(); // no way is it OUR code. SendToBogusWebPage() WaitForNewUser(); } ...well...something like that anyway Bryce --- To paraphrase Fred Dagg - the views expressed in this post are bloody good ones. --
Publitor, making Pubmed easy. http://www.sohocode.com/publitorOur kids book :The Snot Goblin
Fortunately that was a programming answer not a programming question ;P The tigress is here :-D
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So my laptop is, again, dying a slow painful death. I can't understand why manufacturers can't make a laptop that is ultralight, super fast, cheap as chips and can survive being dropped from a great height onto hard floors. Repeatedly. Maybe there's just no demand for it... Anyway, so my laptop blue screened and on reboot XP came up with the crash analysis. Verdict: faulty RAM. Not only did it post mortem, it went to the correct page, offered advice and then provided a link to download a memory diagnosis application. This wasn't an OS issue, rather a hardware issue, but still the OS did what it could to store, diagnose and report the problem. Well done. cheers, Chris Maunder
Stop yer whining Maunder, I've only got 15 minutes of birthday left, and I don't want to waste it listening to you talk about anything but beer. Michael Martin Australia "I controlled my laughter and simple said "No,I am very busy,so I can't write any code for you". The moment they heard this all the smiling face turned into a sad looking face and one of them farted. So i had to leave the place as soon as possible." - Mr.Prakash 24/04/2004
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Sorry, I don't have a good sense of humour. I do however have a good sense of humor. ;) -- Weiter, weiter, ins verderben. Wir müssen leben bis wir sterben. I blog too now[^]
Jörgen Sigvardsson wrote: Sorry, I don't have a good sense of humour. I do however have a good sense of humor. ;) You American wannabe. Michael Martin Australia "I controlled my laughter and simple said "No,I am very busy,so I can't write any code for you". The moment they heard this all the smiling face turned into a sad looking face and one of them farted. So i had to leave the place as soon as possible." - Mr.Prakash 24/04/2004
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Jörgen Sigvardsson wrote: Sorry, I don't have a good sense of humour. I do however have a good sense of humor. ;) You American wannabe. Michael Martin Australia "I controlled my laughter and simple said "No,I am very busy,so I can't write any code for you". The moment they heard this all the smiling face turned into a sad looking face and one of them farted. So i had to leave the place as soon as possible." - Mr.Prakash 24/04/2004
You Pom wannabe! ;) -- Weiter, weiter, ins verderben. Wir müssen leben bis wir sterben. I blog too now[^]
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You Pom wannabe! ;) -- Weiter, weiter, ins verderben. Wir müssen leben bis wir sterben. I blog too now[^]
Jörgen Sigvardsson wrote: You Pom wannabe! ;) If I mentioned wanting some crisps you may have had a point, but humour was spelt humour hundreds of years before the Yanks became allergic to the letter U. Michael Martin Australia "I controlled my laughter and simple said "No,I am very busy,so I can't write any code for you". The moment they heard this all the smiling face turned into a sad looking face and one of them farted. So i had to leave the place as soon as possible." - Mr.Prakash 24/04/2004
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Jörgen Sigvardsson wrote: You Pom wannabe! ;) If I mentioned wanting some crisps you may have had a point, but humour was spelt humour hundreds of years before the Yanks became allergic to the letter U. Michael Martin Australia "I controlled my laughter and simple said "No,I am very busy,so I can't write any code for you". The moment they heard this all the smiling face turned into a sad looking face and one of them farted. So i had to leave the place as soon as possible." - Mr.Prakash 24/04/2004
The yanks have simply simplified their language. I mean, do you really pronounce the 'u' in colour? It sounds just like color, right? Then why not just drop the u? Sounds like a smart thing to do IMO. :) My colleague would like to remind us all that this would not be a problem if everybody spoke and wrote in German ;) -- Weiter, weiter, ins verderben. Wir müssen leben bis wir sterben. I blog too now[^]
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The yanks have simply simplified their language. I mean, do you really pronounce the 'u' in colour? It sounds just like color, right? Then why not just drop the u? Sounds like a smart thing to do IMO. :) My colleague would like to remind us all that this would not be a problem if everybody spoke and wrote in German ;) -- Weiter, weiter, ins verderben. Wir müssen leben bis wir sterben. I blog too now[^]
Jörgen Sigvardsson wrote: Then why not just drop the u? Sounds like a smart thing to do IMO. Can't we please, just for once, not blindly follow the yanks at everything they do!? They butchered the language, they can fix it! :rolleyes: Jörgen Sigvardsson wrote: My colleague would like to remind us all that this would not be a problem if everybody spoke and wrote in German But we'd all be shouting at each other all the time! German is such an 'angry' language ;)
Ryan
"Punctuality is only a virtue for those who aren't smart enough to think of good excuses for being late" John Nichol "Point Of Impact"
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Jörgen Sigvardsson wrote: Then why not just drop the u? Sounds like a smart thing to do IMO. Can't we please, just for once, not blindly follow the yanks at everything they do!? They butchered the language, they can fix it! :rolleyes: Jörgen Sigvardsson wrote: My colleague would like to remind us all that this would not be a problem if everybody spoke and wrote in German But we'd all be shouting at each other all the time! German is such an 'angry' language ;)
Ryan
"Punctuality is only a virtue for those who aren't smart enough to think of good excuses for being late" John Nichol "Point Of Impact"
Ryan Binns wrote: Can't we please, just for once, not blindly follow the yanks at everything they do!? Please let us not follow them, they all voted for Kerry!?!? :sigh::doh:;) Just another day in paradise Richard
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So my laptop is, again, dying a slow painful death. I can't understand why manufacturers can't make a laptop that is ultralight, super fast, cheap as chips and can survive being dropped from a great height onto hard floors. Repeatedly. Maybe there's just no demand for it... Anyway, so my laptop blue screened and on reboot XP came up with the crash analysis. Verdict: faulty RAM. Not only did it post mortem, it went to the correct page, offered advice and then provided a link to download a memory diagnosis application. This wasn't an OS issue, rather a hardware issue, but still the OS did what it could to store, diagnose and report the problem. Well done. cheers, Chris Maunder
Fast, cheap, good. Pick two. I don't know who said that first, but it applies. Well sort of. Everything is a tradeoff. A heavy laptop will in general be tougher than a light one. Heavy materials often insulate, so the laptop cannot be as fast before it overheats. More material costs more money to make. There are many choices for materials though, some are better than others, each ahs advantages and disadvantages. Panisonic toughbooks are known to survive almost anything. The military sometimes runs them over with a tank. You pay for that though, some of the materials they use are more expensive. Apple and IBM are rumored to make reasonably tough notebooks. Not up to the panasonic standards, but better than most. However everyone's quality varies from model to model, so that is hard to say.