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  • L Lost User

    So where do you suppose these folks were before Gulf War - Part Deux? A. Saddam loyalists who are now fighting to regain their power. B. An Iraqi fringe group who were afraid of Saddam but think they can kick our ass. C. Non-Iraqi arabs who want to take over a country in the middle east. D. A grass roots organization sprung up since Saddam fell. "Reality is what refuses to go away when I stop believing in it." Philip K. Dick

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    Mike Mullikin wrote: Saddam loyalists who are now fighting to regain their power working for Saddam. now, i bet a bunch of them miss the good old days. maybe some are working to restore them. Mike Mullikin wrote: An Iraqi fringe group who were afraid of Saddam but think they can kick our ass hiding from Saddam, waiting for their chance to make it big. i bet a bunch of them see today as their best chance. Mike Mullikin wrote: Non-Iraqi arabs who want to take over a country in the middle east in non-Iraqi countries, dreaming up org charts and drawing straws on who gets the big palace. last report i read said something like, out of the 1000 insurgents captured in Fallujah, less than 25 were foreign. there's never been a definite count on the number of foreign fighters in Iraq, but even the highest i've seen have been in the low thousands - not a really big deal. Mike Mullikin wrote: A grass roots organization sprung up since Saddam fell iraq has a median age of 19 (US 34). that means there are a fuckload of teenage iraqi males running around with guns in near anarchy. we created that anarchy and people are trying to fill the void and steer the final outcome in their direction. no, i don't approve of how they're doing it. Software | Cleek

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    • J JoeSox

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      Jim Crafton
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      • R Rob Graham

        So we should just pack up and leave it to them? Why would anyone waste time arguing with an accountant about anything? Their sole function is to record what happenned, and any higher aspirations are mere delusions of grandeur. On the ladder of productive contributions they are the little rubber pads at the bottom that keep the thing from sliding out from under you. - Roger Wright

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          Toasty0 wrote: liberal leadership how sensitive of you to use her death as a political point. Software | Cleek

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          Jerry Hammond
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          Chris Losinger wrote: how sensitive of you to use her death as a political point. That's the best you can do? Still, you condemn those you deem conservative but have said nothing to criticize those who commited the act. I did not realize that you are that far to the left. I can only conclude that you support and or condone those who would do such a terrible act, right? Best, Jerry

          "Making money is art and working is art and good business is the best art of all."--Andy Warhol Toasty0.com

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            http://www.gmgplc.co.uk/gmgplc/scott/scottintro/[^] pseudonym67 My Articles[^] "They say there are strangers who threaten us, In our immigrants and infidels. They say there is strangeness too dangerous In our theaters and bookstore shelves. That those who know what's best for us Must rise and save us from ourselves." Rush

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            Jerry Hammond
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            Thanks for the info. :)

            "Making money is art and working is art and good business is the best art of all."--Andy Warhol Toasty0.com

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            • R Rob Graham

              pseudonym67 wrote: no male between the ages of 15-50 was allowed to leave before the attack As I recall all citizens were encouraged to leave, men in that age group were screened more carefully, and some detained, but not prohibited from leaving. Considering Fallujas history for the past six months, I would say all remaining were terrorists. pseudonym67 wrote: Yet in the thread below you were basically saying that the soldier who shot him shouldn't be condemned without a fair hearing. Indeed, and I see that cartoon as condeming him without a fair hearing. Why would anyone waste time arguing with an accountant about anything? Their sole function is to record what happenned, and any higher aspirations are mere delusions of grandeur. On the ladder of productive contributions they are the little rubber pads at the bottom that keep the thing from sliding out from under you. - Roger Wright

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              Rob Graham wrote: Considering Fallujas history for the past six months, I would say all remaining were terrorists. So you've huddled under tables while bombs were fired from ships and dropped by planes for months and seen all the damage that has torn up your community and killed many of your friends and family. Now your home town is surrounded by hostile forces intent on comitting an offensive againt the local group of extremely violent 'freedom fighters'. Fighters who would likely kill you and your family if you tried to cooperate with the enemy forces. Both sides you know have a reputation of shooting first... you would still send your 16 year old son out to meet them? Would you try to sneak out of your home under dark and hope you don't get spotted by either side? I couldn't justify the risk, I would stay with my family in my home and pray constantly that both sides slipped by us unnoticed.


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              • J Jerry Hammond

                Chris Losinger wrote: how sensitive of you to use her death as a political point. That's the best you can do? Still, you condemn those you deem conservative but have said nothing to criticize those who commited the act. I did not realize that you are that far to the left. I can only conclude that you support and or condone those who would do such a terrible act, right? Best, Jerry

                "Making money is art and working is art and good business is the best art of all."--Andy Warhol Toasty0.com

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                Toasty0 wrote: Still, you condemn those you deem conservative what the fuck are you talking about? Toasty0 wrote: I can only conclude that you support and or condone those who would do such a terrible act, right? that's a truly absurd remark. Software | Cleek

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                • L Lost User

                  They target civilians to instill fear and to intimidate. They do not wear uniforms. They do not have a publicly defined chain of command. They're fucking terrorists by any rational definition. Making any kind of excuse for them is absurd. If all they wanted was us gone and a piece of the political pie the most direct method would be to blend in peacefully for a couple years until we leave then sieze power like Saddam. "Reality is what refuses to go away when I stop believing in it." Philip K. Dick

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                  jan larsen
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                  Mike Mullikin wrote: They do not wear uniforms. They do not have a publicly defined chain of command. Do you think they possibly have other things to do than produce uniforms? "After all it's just text at the end of the day. - Colin Davies "For example, when a VB programmer comes to my house, they may say 'does your pool need cleaning, sir ?' " - Christian Graus

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                    Mike Mullikin wrote: They do not wear uniforms. They do not have a publicly defined chain of command. Do you think they possibly have other things to do than produce uniforms? "After all it's just text at the end of the day. - Colin Davies "For example, when a VB programmer comes to my house, they may say 'does your pool need cleaning, sir ?' " - Christian Graus

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                    jan larsen wrote: They do not wear uniforms. They do not have a publicly defined chain of command. Do you think they possibly have other things to do than produce uniforms? Probably but the two criteria above are part of what defines a combatant under the Geneva convention. If he is not acting as a combatant under the GC then what the soldier did is not illegal under the GC. I think that was part of the point he was trying to make. Whether that should have any bearing on this case or not is another question. "The world is a dangerous place to live, not because of the people who are evil, but because of the people who don't do anything about it." Albert Einstein Dave

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                      jan larsen wrote: They do not wear uniforms. They do not have a publicly defined chain of command. Do you think they possibly have other things to do than produce uniforms? Probably but the two criteria above are part of what defines a combatant under the Geneva convention. If he is not acting as a combatant under the GC then what the soldier did is not illegal under the GC. I think that was part of the point he was trying to make. Whether that should have any bearing on this case or not is another question. "The world is a dangerous place to live, not because of the people who are evil, but because of the people who don't do anything about it." Albert Einstein Dave

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                      Lost User
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                      DRHuff wrote: If he is not acting as a combatant under the GC then what the soldier did is not illegal under the GC. I think that was part of the point he was trying to make. That was exactly my point. Too subtle for some I guess. :sigh: "Reality is what refuses to go away when I stop believing in it." Philip K. Dick

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                      • J Jerry Hammond

                        ...but not a peep about the MURDER of a blindfolded femail captive. Nope, not a word. And the liberal leadership wonder why even folks of their own camp find it difficult to support their most vocal spokesmen...err...women...ummm...jellyfish. Best, Jerry

                        "Making money is art and working is art and good business is the best art of all."--Andy Warhol Toasty0.com

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                        jan larsen
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                        As my kindergarten teacher used to say: "Just because Joe hit Peter, you're not allowed to do the same. What Joe did was also wrong". Well, she didn't actually say that, because there wasn't a Joe and a Peter, and I never hit anyone, but you get the point. I'm sure you teach your own children the same thing. By the way, why did you uppercase 'MURDER', are you trying to say that what the soldier did wasn't murder? "After all it's just text at the end of the day. - Colin Davies "For example, when a VB programmer comes to my house, they may say 'does your pool need cleaning, sir ?' " - Christian Graus

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