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  • J Jerry Hammond

    This link my curry some smarmy retort or open a debate about health care, but today, on a deep personal level I am very proud I live in America. Here is why[^] Best, Jerry

    "Making money is art and working is art and good business is the best art of all."--Andy Warhol Toasty0.com

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    Anna Jayne Metcalfe
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    Did I hear you mention curry? :-D On a more serious note - congratulations! My eldest Ciaran was in the neo-natal unit at Basingstoke Maternity unit for just over a week after he was born as he couldn't breathe properly on his own (he was 4 weeks premature). Visiting him there was quite a sobering experience - he was strong enough to pull through, but so many don't. We found out a little while later that the baby in the next incubator was one of those who didn't make it. :(( Anna :rose: Riverblade Ltd - Software Consultancy Services Anna's Place | Tears and Laughter "Be yourself - not what others think you should be" - Marcia Graesch "Anna's just a sexy-looking lesbian tart" - A friend, trying to wind me up. It didn't work.

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      Did I hear you mention curry? :-D On a more serious note - congratulations! My eldest Ciaran was in the neo-natal unit at Basingstoke Maternity unit for just over a week after he was born as he couldn't breathe properly on his own (he was 4 weeks premature). Visiting him there was quite a sobering experience - he was strong enough to pull through, but so many don't. We found out a little while later that the baby in the next incubator was one of those who didn't make it. :(( Anna :rose: Riverblade Ltd - Software Consultancy Services Anna's Place | Tears and Laughter "Be yourself - not what others think you should be" - Marcia Graesch "Anna's just a sexy-looking lesbian tart" - A friend, trying to wind me up. It didn't work.

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      My first and only child, born last January, spent 10 days in the NICU due to underdeveloped lungs. The weird thing is that he was full term. He had to endure a C-pap, followed by a breathing tube down his throat, which then caused holes in his lungs to leak air into his chest cavity, which collapsed his lungs so they had to poke holes in his chest to relieve the air (like in Three Kings). It all seems surreal now. The hardest part was that they had to move him to a different hospital a couple hours after he was born, and my wife had to stay behind (she had a C-section) for two days, and had seen (but not touched) him exactly twice for a total of two minutes. So I spent two days sitting next to him by myself; at least I got to hold him once before they intubated him--my wife didn't hold him for the first time until he was five days old. But he's doing well now... crawling all over and getting into trouble. If he was born 50+ years ago, he would probably wouldn't have made it; in fact my wife might not have either. I appreciate hospitals more than I ever have in my life.

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      • J Jerry Hammond

        This link my curry some smarmy retort or open a debate about health care, but today, on a deep personal level I am very proud I live in America. Here is why[^] Best, Jerry

        "Making money is art and working is art and good business is the best art of all."--Andy Warhol Toasty0.com

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        Thats absolutely fantastic, I'm really happy for you, God Bless and post some pics when you get a chance. :rose::rose::rose::rose::rose: Discovery consist of seeing what everybody has seen and thinking what nobody has thought -- Albert Szent-Györgyi Name the greatest of all the inventors: accident --Mark Twain

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          My first and only child, born last January, spent 10 days in the NICU due to underdeveloped lungs. The weird thing is that he was full term. He had to endure a C-pap, followed by a breathing tube down his throat, which then caused holes in his lungs to leak air into his chest cavity, which collapsed his lungs so they had to poke holes in his chest to relieve the air (like in Three Kings). It all seems surreal now. The hardest part was that they had to move him to a different hospital a couple hours after he was born, and my wife had to stay behind (she had a C-section) for two days, and had seen (but not touched) him exactly twice for a total of two minutes. So I spent two days sitting next to him by myself; at least I got to hold him once before they intubated him--my wife didn't hold him for the first time until he was five days old. But he's doing well now... crawling all over and getting into trouble. If he was born 50+ years ago, he would probably wouldn't have made it; in fact my wife might not have either. I appreciate hospitals more than I ever have in my life.

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          :)Well ...my story goes like this ( or may i say my son's story) my wife conceived last year may which is an inauspicious time for indians - we have a belief that if a boy( is a girl its ok) is born on april-may then his father will have a shorter life time ( it proved correct in my fathers case as he died at 50 as i was born on may ) . Though I did nt beleive all these superstitions my wife compelled me to go for an abortion . After a lot of hesitation we finally decided to go for it . We choose a small hospital and that gynacologist lady doctor did that also on her ( my wife had a very painful time those days ) . we felt guilty of killing that child also ... but in some 3 months of time ( after irregular woman related monthly issues ) we found to our horror that there is a child still alive . We took her to the same doctor who said its quite possible for the embriyo to have stayed in felobian tube itself for 40 days ..so she said its not het fault at all ...but we were in a miserable condition .. then we went to another doctor who suggested us to take a high tech scan on the baby so that we can be sure that all the parts are intact and he(or she) is healthy . She also said that if scanning comes negative about the health of the baby we may abort it again .... my wife started crying and i was so helpless ...we were a wreck at that time ..i did nt know whom to blame for what ... then we took the scan and the result was good ...but they said due to the medicines consumed after abortion and during abortion we can just hope that god will give us a mentally healthy child ...this was the last thing we fdid not want to hear ... oops....then on may 3rd ( which is my birthday also ) my son was born and he is as healthy and cute as a johnson and johnson baby ... he is a medical wonder .... I thank god he gave me a totally intact two legs two arms two eyes one nose baby ... Dharani babu S

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            My first and only child, born last January, spent 10 days in the NICU due to underdeveloped lungs. The weird thing is that he was full term. He had to endure a C-pap, followed by a breathing tube down his throat, which then caused holes in his lungs to leak air into his chest cavity, which collapsed his lungs so they had to poke holes in his chest to relieve the air (like in Three Kings). It all seems surreal now. The hardest part was that they had to move him to a different hospital a couple hours after he was born, and my wife had to stay behind (she had a C-section) for two days, and had seen (but not touched) him exactly twice for a total of two minutes. So I spent two days sitting next to him by myself; at least I got to hold him once before they intubated him--my wife didn't hold him for the first time until he was five days old. But he's doing well now... crawling all over and getting into trouble. If he was born 50+ years ago, he would probably wouldn't have made it; in fact my wife might not have either. I appreciate hospitals more than I ever have in my life.

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            I wish your son all the best ...but i bet my son is more smarter than urs coz he escaped the surgeon's gloves while in uterus itself .... Glad to hear that ur baby is crawling ...my son is yet to start though he is 7 months old ...I dont know why ...he is yet to start moving ...he is simply taking full circles but he is yet to move or crawl ..is it normal ?? Dharani Babu S

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              :)Well ...my story goes like this ( or may i say my son's story) my wife conceived last year may which is an inauspicious time for indians - we have a belief that if a boy( is a girl its ok) is born on april-may then his father will have a shorter life time ( it proved correct in my fathers case as he died at 50 as i was born on may ) . Though I did nt beleive all these superstitions my wife compelled me to go for an abortion . After a lot of hesitation we finally decided to go for it . We choose a small hospital and that gynacologist lady doctor did that also on her ( my wife had a very painful time those days ) . we felt guilty of killing that child also ... but in some 3 months of time ( after irregular woman related monthly issues ) we found to our horror that there is a child still alive . We took her to the same doctor who said its quite possible for the embriyo to have stayed in felobian tube itself for 40 days ..so she said its not het fault at all ...but we were in a miserable condition .. then we went to another doctor who suggested us to take a high tech scan on the baby so that we can be sure that all the parts are intact and he(or she) is healthy . She also said that if scanning comes negative about the health of the baby we may abort it again .... my wife started crying and i was so helpless ...we were a wreck at that time ..i did nt know whom to blame for what ... then we took the scan and the result was good ...but they said due to the medicines consumed after abortion and during abortion we can just hope that god will give us a mentally healthy child ...this was the last thing we fdid not want to hear ... oops....then on may 3rd ( which is my birthday also ) my son was born and he is as healthy and cute as a johnson and johnson baby ... he is a medical wonder .... I thank god he gave me a totally intact two legs two arms two eyes one nose baby ... Dharani babu S

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              dharani wrote: Though I did nt beleive all these superstitions my wife compelled me to go for an abortion . Your wife wanted an abortion because of a superstition that you would not live long if your child was born in April or May??? What kind of idiocy is this, in today's world? dharani wrote: my wife conceived last year may which is an inauspicious time for indians And if your son was born in May, your wife obviously didn't conceive in May. Gestation in humans is 9 months, not 12. dharani wrote: I thank god All I hear in your story is how selfish you and your wife are, how your concern is for the problems you yourself would have if your child was crippled or mentally handicapped. X| Marc MyXaml Advanced Unit Testing

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                I wish your son all the best ...but i bet my son is more smarter than urs coz he escaped the surgeon's gloves while in uterus itself .... Glad to hear that ur baby is crawling ...my son is yet to start though he is 7 months old ...I dont know why ...he is yet to start moving ...he is simply taking full circles but he is yet to move or crawl ..is it normal ?? Dharani Babu S

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                dharani wrote: but i bet my son is more smarter than urs coz he escaped the surgeon's gloves while in uterus itself .... That's pathetic, especially given that it was you and your wife that tried to ABORT him for no reason other than superstition! I can only hope that he is smarter than YOU. I'm assuming by your name that you are Indian. Is this common practice in India? I've heard rumors that it is so. Not that there isn't enough to criticize in American lifestyles, but I'm disappointed and disgusted that a country that produced someone like the Buddha could behave so inhumanly. Marc MyXaml Advanced Unit Testing

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                • J Jerry Hammond

                  This link my curry some smarmy retort or open a debate about health care, but today, on a deep personal level I am very proud I live in America. Here is why[^] Best, Jerry

                  "Making money is art and working is art and good business is the best art of all."--Andy Warhol Toasty0.com

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                  You have every right to feel the way you do. About 21 years ago, I felt exactly the same. My daughter was 8 weeks early and stopped breathing half a dozen times during her first 12 hours following birth. She was sent to a special neo-natal unit even though she weighed in at around 6 kg. Fortunately she received excellent medical care and attention for 21 days and then my wife and I finally got to hold her and bring her home. It may have been a rocky start, but she is now finishing her 3rd year at university and in another couple of years will be teaching 4 and 5 year olds in elementary school. Regardless of the cost, I believe the investment will be bearing dividends for many years to come. :) Chris Meech I am Canadian. [heard in a local bar] Gently arching his fishing rod back he moves the tip forward in a gentle arch releasing the line.... kersplunk [Doug Goulden]

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                  • Q QuiJohn

                    My first and only child, born last January, spent 10 days in the NICU due to underdeveloped lungs. The weird thing is that he was full term. He had to endure a C-pap, followed by a breathing tube down his throat, which then caused holes in his lungs to leak air into his chest cavity, which collapsed his lungs so they had to poke holes in his chest to relieve the air (like in Three Kings). It all seems surreal now. The hardest part was that they had to move him to a different hospital a couple hours after he was born, and my wife had to stay behind (she had a C-section) for two days, and had seen (but not touched) him exactly twice for a total of two minutes. So I spent two days sitting next to him by myself; at least I got to hold him once before they intubated him--my wife didn't hold him for the first time until he was five days old. But he's doing well now... crawling all over and getting into trouble. If he was born 50+ years ago, he would probably wouldn't have made it; in fact my wife might not have either. I appreciate hospitals more than I ever have in my life.

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                    I know how you feel David. Seeing the child you love more than anything else in the world having to endure such an ordeal is heartbreaking in a way that only a parent who's been through that experience can truly know. The lives of our children are just so precious. Reading your post brings back all those memories. I'm so glad that your son - like mine - was one of the lucky ones, but I grieve for those who don't. I just can't imagine how I'd have coped if I was one of the parents that lost a child. I certainly feel forever indebted to the staff of the maternity and neo-natal units at Basingstoke Hospital. Anna :rose: Riverblade Ltd - Software Consultancy Services Anna's Place | Tears and Laughter "Be yourself - not what others think you should be" - Marcia Graesch "Anna's just a sexy-looking lesbian tart" - A friend, trying to wind me up. It didn't work.

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                      dharani wrote: Though I did nt beleive all these superstitions my wife compelled me to go for an abortion . Your wife wanted an abortion because of a superstition that you would not live long if your child was born in April or May??? What kind of idiocy is this, in today's world? dharani wrote: my wife conceived last year may which is an inauspicious time for indians And if your son was born in May, your wife obviously didn't conceive in May. Gestation in humans is 9 months, not 12. dharani wrote: I thank god All I hear in your story is how selfish you and your wife are, how your concern is for the problems you yourself would have if your child was crippled or mentally handicapped. X| Marc MyXaml Advanced Unit Testing

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                      Marc Clifton wrote: What kind of idiocy is this, in today's world? I deserve this comment . I agree with you . Marc Clifton wrote: And if your son was born in May, your wife obviously didn't conceive in May. Gestation in humans is 9 months, not 12. I am wrong - seems it was on june or july . I forgot Marc Clifton wrote: All I hear in your story is how selfish you and your wife are, how your concern is for the problems you yourself would have if your child was crippled or mentally handicapped. Hm...I agree . But we did not want a handicapped boy . but we wanted an abortion which I feel is not a crime now a days . But the reason we choose was selfish I agree . Dharani babu S

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                        dharani wrote: but i bet my son is more smarter than urs coz he escaped the surgeon's gloves while in uterus itself .... That's pathetic, especially given that it was you and your wife that tried to ABORT him for no reason other than superstition! I can only hope that he is smarter than YOU. I'm assuming by your name that you are Indian. Is this common practice in India? I've heard rumors that it is so. Not that there isn't enough to criticize in American lifestyles, but I'm disappointed and disgusted that a country that produced someone like the Buddha could behave so inhumanly. Marc MyXaml Advanced Unit Testing

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                        Marc Clifton wrote: That's pathetic, especially given that it was you and your wife that tried to ABORT him for no reason other than superstition Marc I would like to tell you another reason which I chose not to talk . We had another reason for it . In fact we were not both mentally financially prepared at the time when this unexpected conception ( is it the noun of "conceive " ??) happened . This also was a major reason for us to opt for it . Marc Clifton wrote: I'm assuming by your name that you are Indian Marc Clifton wrote: Is this common practice in India? Definitely NOT . In fact here in india our culture revers a child as a life which should not be aborted (christianity also forbid abortion) . And moreover there is a custom by indians which is followed even today . During the month of july-august ( when a woman conceives at this month will give birth on the dreaded april-may) woman and man are seperated and the woman goes to her parents' home so that she does not conceive at this period . But if it happens it does nt mean ppl opt for abortion . We did it foolishly . But in interior , under developed areas of india ( mostly in south ) female chidren are thrown out or just killed -this due to parents' unwillingness to pay dowry to groom's house on marriage . Even in china human infanticide is common as it is in india . But in india all hospitals are forbidden to reveal the sex of the baby when in womb - this is a criminal offence and strictly followed even now . Buddha must be sad . Dharani babu S

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                        • J Jerry Hammond

                          This link my curry some smarmy retort or open a debate about health care, but today, on a deep personal level I am very proud I live in America. Here is why[^] Best, Jerry

                          "Making money is art and working is art and good business is the best art of all."--Andy Warhol Toasty0.com

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                          That is great your kid is given the chance to live. How does the American medical system work though? Do you pay a monthly amount to a company (or the government) and this entitles you to X amount of health care? Here in S.A. medical "insurance" is privatised and every month I pay R500 which covers a medical savings plan, local and international hospital stays, surgery etc. Pretty much anything bad that can happen to me will be covered. If I had kids I'd pay a bit more and they would be covered too. regards, Paul Watson South Africa Michael Dunn wrote: "except the sod who voted this a 1, NO SOUP FOR YOU" Crikey! ain't life grand?

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