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  • J Jorgen Sigvardsson

    Roger Wright wrote: iques involve attacking specific points that are extremely vulnerable - joints, pressure points, exposed arteries. Ah yes, weak points. They're there to be exploited. :rolleyes: :-D Roger Wright wrote: It also uses leverage to disarm an armed opponent by removing, well, arms for one. Am I correct in interpreting removing as removing effectively, or is it removing physically? :-D -- Weiter, weiter, ins verderben. Wir müssen leben bis wir sterben. I blog too now[^]

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    Effectively is probably the best word, though it's quite possible to rip an arm off. But why work that hard? It takes 8 lbs of pressure, properly applied, to break a wrist, 12 to break an elbow, and only slightly more to dislocate a shoulder. When you can do all three in a single motion, the poor sod may as well have no arm.:-D Even a strong grip may be broken by a rigid thumb driven into the opponent's armpit (there's a very sensitive nerve ganglion there), and a stiff finger to the eyeball will make anyone back up. Grasping the elbow, thumb inside and just above the joint, middle finger behind on the pressure point located there, will briefly paralyze the forearm and weaken a grip on a weapon. Try it on yourself - the pain will go away in a few minutes...;) "If it's Snowbird season, why can't we shoot them?" - Overheard in a bar in Bullhead City

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    • J Jorgen Sigvardsson

      Roger Wright wrote: then later, multiple opponents using feet and hands only. I had a little taste of that last week. It's really fun! And contrary to what one would think, it's not as hard as it seems. Well, yes, it's hard, but a billion times harder than fighting a single enemy. By moving around a lot, you can use the enemies' relative positions to gain advantage. You can also do surprise attacks. For instance, you can pretend to attack one enemy with a kick to the groin area, but nail the other sucker (punch through) with a jaw punch. I will have to persuade two of my fellow kenshis to practice this more often. :) -- Weiter, weiter, ins verderben. Wir müssen leben bis wir sterben. I blog too now[^]

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      If two are facing you relatively close, you can jump straight up and kick both in the solar plexus at once. If they're farther apart, you can put a roundhouse kick in the righthand one's temple with your left foot, and use a jumping spin-hook to the other's head with your right foot. Why fake anything?:) "If it's Snowbird season, why can't we shoot them?" - Overheard in a bar in Bullhead City

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        Effectively is probably the best word, though it's quite possible to rip an arm off. But why work that hard? It takes 8 lbs of pressure, properly applied, to break a wrist, 12 to break an elbow, and only slightly more to dislocate a shoulder. When you can do all three in a single motion, the poor sod may as well have no arm.:-D Even a strong grip may be broken by a rigid thumb driven into the opponent's armpit (there's a very sensitive nerve ganglion there), and a stiff finger to the eyeball will make anyone back up. Grasping the elbow, thumb inside and just above the joint, middle finger behind on the pressure point located there, will briefly paralyze the forearm and weaken a grip on a weapon. Try it on yourself - the pain will go away in a few minutes...;) "If it's Snowbird season, why can't we shoot them?" - Overheard in a bar in Bullhead City

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        Jorgen Sigvardsson
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        Roger Wright wrote: Try it on yourself - the pain will go away in a few minutes... Been there, done that. However, that pressure point is "off" on me. My arms are quite resilient, especially my right arm. :cool: The only soft spots on my arms are my index finger, wrist, elbow and shoulder. The index finger is attached to an interesting ligament which can be stretched in certain circumstances. Try this: Bend your hand forward as much as possible. Then bend your fingers down as much as possible. Your fingers, hand and arm should now form an upside down U. Now, apply gentle pressure on your index finger by pressing it towards the palm. It'll stretch a little at first, and then you press a little bit more (ever so lightly). Now you'll feel ligaments and muscles stretch, all the way from your index finger knuckle all the way up the elbow. Don't press any further, because you'll feel it for hours. I'm currently stretching it on a daily basis, thus making that type of attack harder on me. I've already made progress to the point where sensei must use alternative techniques to put me on the ground. :cool: -- Weiter, weiter, ins verderben. Wir müssen leben bis wir sterben. I blog too now[^]

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          If two are facing you relatively close, you can jump straight up and kick both in the solar plexus at once. If they're farther apart, you can put a roundhouse kick in the righthand one's temple with your left foot, and use a jumping spin-hook to the other's head with your right foot. Why fake anything?:) "If it's Snowbird season, why can't we shoot them?" - Overheard in a bar in Bullhead City

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          Jorgen Sigvardsson
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          Roger Wright wrote: Why fake anything? To play it safe. The guy who got the faked kick will block and/or move, while the other one would not expect an attack at that point in time since I was seemingly engaged with the other combatant. The one who got the real punch would hopefully be moving towards me to strike, and thus be in a vulnerable position. I'm not quick nor strong enough to do any high flying kicks. I rather play with tactics. :) -- Weiter, weiter, ins verderben. Wir müssen leben bis wir sterben. I blog too now[^]

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          • J Jorgen Sigvardsson

            I just attained the degree Yonkyu in Shorinji Kempo. 4 more to go. :cool: -- Weiter, weiter, ins verderben. Wir müssen leben bis wir sterben. I blog too now[^]

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            Jack Puppy
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            I attained a second degree during a kitchen accident when I was a kid. I still can't make Kraft Dinner to this day without getting the shakes.

            :suss: Pssst. You see that little light on your monitor? That's actually a government installed spy camera. Smile and wave to big brother!

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              I attained a second degree during a kitchen accident when I was a kid. I still can't make Kraft Dinner to this day without getting the shakes.

              :suss: Pssst. You see that little light on your monitor? That's actually a government installed spy camera. Smile and wave to big brother!

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              That boiling water will sneak up out of the pot right when you aren't looking. BW


              "Get up and open your eyes. Don't let yourself ever fall down.
              Get through it and learn how to fly. I know you will find a way...
              Today"
              -Days of the New

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              • J Jorgen Sigvardsson

                I just attained the degree Yonkyu in Shorinji Kempo. 4 more to go. :cool: -- Weiter, weiter, ins verderben. Wir müssen leben bis wir sterben. I blog too now[^]

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                Congrats, Jorgen! Helluva a week for you isn't it? A car, a belt. Fantastic. Is Shorinji Kempo anything like Chinese Kempo? I just started an exercise class this week that incorporates kickboxing combos, etc. It's a blast so far. I may follow up with some real martial arts classes early next year, once I reach my first goal of losing weight. BW


                "Get up and open your eyes. Don't let yourself ever fall down.
                Get through it and learn how to fly. I know you will find a way...
                Today"
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                • J Jorgen Sigvardsson

                  Roger Wright wrote: Try it on yourself - the pain will go away in a few minutes... Been there, done that. However, that pressure point is "off" on me. My arms are quite resilient, especially my right arm. :cool: The only soft spots on my arms are my index finger, wrist, elbow and shoulder. The index finger is attached to an interesting ligament which can be stretched in certain circumstances. Try this: Bend your hand forward as much as possible. Then bend your fingers down as much as possible. Your fingers, hand and arm should now form an upside down U. Now, apply gentle pressure on your index finger by pressing it towards the palm. It'll stretch a little at first, and then you press a little bit more (ever so lightly). Now you'll feel ligaments and muscles stretch, all the way from your index finger knuckle all the way up the elbow. Don't press any further, because you'll feel it for hours. I'm currently stretching it on a daily basis, thus making that type of attack harder on me. I've already made progress to the point where sensei must use alternative techniques to put me on the ground. :cool: -- Weiter, weiter, ins verderben. Wir müssen leben bis wir sterben. I blog too now[^]

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                  Roger Wright
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                  Hmmm... Interesting sensation - not painful, but definitely an odd feeling. I can push it comfortably to within 2" of the arm, but the knuckle and wrist both stop at about 90°. I can't imagine changing that much without breaking a bone.:suss: "If it's Snowbird season, why can't we shoot them?" - Overheard in a bar in Bullhead City

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                  • J Jorgen Sigvardsson

                    I just attained the degree Yonkyu in Shorinji Kempo. 4 more to go. :cool: -- Weiter, weiter, ins verderben. Wir müssen leben bis wir sterben. I blog too now[^]

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                    Jerry Hammond
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                    *bows deeply and with respect* "I hate television. I hate it as much as peanuts. But I can't stop eating peanuts."--Orson Welles Toasty0.com The Recipe Project

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                    • J Jorgen Sigvardsson

                      Roger Wright wrote: hapkido What kind of martial arts is that? What type of techniques are used? Roger Wright wrote: and hope to remain flexible enough for long enough to acheive at least a couple more levels before I wear out. I feel pretty flexible right now, but at times, I feel really stiff. Especially in the evening after a hard workout. I hope that's natural. :~ When I've reached Ikkyu (brown belt, the last before black), I will start looking at other martial arts. I've always been keen on Wushu (a.k.a Kung Fu), and I know there's a club not too far from where I live. Either that, or I'll continue Muay Thai, but I'd rather not. I've become much fascinated by the use of techniques and elegance instead of brute force. It's pretty damn amazing what you can do when using the opponent's force against him/her. :) -- Weiter, weiter, ins verderben. Wir müssen leben bis wir sterben. I blog too now[^]

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                      Jörgen Sigvardsson wrote: When I've reached Ikkyu (brown belt, the last before black) Oops, I misunderstood your initial post - I thought you meant 1st degree black belt. What belt were you referring to, and how is the progression structured? What techniques does this discipline teach? What got you interested in it? I got started following an accident while playing tag with a 6 year old little girl. I was chasing her (being 'it' at the time) and suddenly felt all the strength go out of one leg - I went down hard on concrete, on the hip, and had a lot of trouble walking for weeks. It scared the hell out of me, as nothing has ever gone wrong with my legs in my life! I realized that I really needed to get some exercise beyond jumping to conclusions and clicking a mouse all day. The same little girl had recently expressed to her mom that she wanted to try tae kwon do, and Mom reported it to me - we've been very close since the girl was born, and I'm sort of a surrogate Dad. I checked out the school and enrolled, then brought the little one in when I got past the beginner levels. She made it to red belt (three below 1st degree black) before she moved away from here, but I've never quit - best thing I've ever done for myself! And if I can find the time to travel and visit, Master has given me permission to continue her training.:-D I just wish that I had more time to attend classes - the job and teaching suck up all available hours, and I can get to one class a week right now. I've missed several belt tests because of work, and I hate it! I should be going every night, or at least three a week.:mad: "If it's Snowbird season, why can't we shoot them?" - Overheard in a bar in Bullhead City

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                      • J Jorgen Sigvardsson

                        I will become proficient in defending myself and others in need, I imagine. I already know some pretty cool take down techniques which I could use if I'm forced to. -- Weiter, weiter, ins verderben. Wir müssen leben bis wir sterben. I blog too now[^]

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                        MS le Roux
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                        Jörgen Sigvardsson wrote: I will become proficient in defending myself and others in need Now all you need is a funky mask and a sidekick. :)

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                          *bows deeply and with respect* "I hate television. I hate it as much as peanuts. But I can't stop eating peanuts."--Orson Welles Toasty0.com The Recipe Project

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                          When I read this game review it reminded me of what this thread is talking about; Bow (NPC*) * Not Politically Correct regards, Paul Watson South Africa The Code Project

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