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Ravi Bhavnani wrote: Ah... sometimes I think so, but often I don't. That black hole that Nish talks about? Fall into it. It is not so black and in fact is far better than any computer or programming challenge. regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass Cape Town, South Africa "The greatest thing you will ever learn is to love, and be loved in return" - Moulin Rouge Martin Marvinski wrote: Unfortunatly Deep Throat isn't my cup of tea Do you Sonork? I do! 100.9903 Stormfront
Paul Watson wrote: is far better than any computer or programming challenge. Blasphemy! Pure unadulterated blasphemy!!! Nish Sonork ID 100.9786 voidmain www.busterboy.org If you don't find me on CP, I'll be at Bob's HungOut
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Paul Watson wrote: . I was serious about sending you those books, so reply to the post Ok. Then I'll email you, assuming that I can get your email address from somewhere. It's gonna be hard with the new CP anti-spam measures Nish Sonork ID 100.9786 voidmain www.busterboy.org If you don't find me on CP, I'll be at Bob's HungOut
paulw@bluegrassgroup.com :) Spammers can rot in my spam box. regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass Cape Town, South Africa "The greatest thing you will ever learn is to love, and be loved in return" - Moulin Rouge Martin Marvinski wrote: Unfortunatly Deep Throat isn't my cup of tea Do you Sonork? I do! 100.9903 Stormfront
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Paul Watson wrote: is far better than any computer or programming challenge. Blasphemy! Pure unadulterated blasphemy!!! Nish Sonork ID 100.9786 voidmain www.busterboy.org If you don't find me on CP, I'll be at Bob's HungOut
Nish [BusterBoy] wrote: Blasphemy! Pure unadulterated blasphemy!!! I will stand amongst any crowd, on any website, in any hall, on any stage, over any radio or tv station and declare that there is no finer thing than love! Everything else is just meant to keep us alive so we can spend time making love (making love as in not just sex but being in love, experiencing love, nurturing love.) regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass Cape Town, South Africa "The greatest thing you will ever learn is to love, and be loved in return" - Moulin Rouge Martin Marvinski wrote: Unfortunatly Deep Throat isn't my cup of tea Do you Sonork? I do! 100.9903 Stormfront
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paulw@bluegrassgroup.com :) Spammers can rot in my spam box. regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass Cape Town, South Africa "The greatest thing you will ever learn is to love, and be loved in return" - Moulin Rouge Martin Marvinski wrote: Unfortunatly Deep Throat isn't my cup of tea Do you Sonork? I do! 100.9903 Stormfront
????????????? Cool! Nish Sonork ID 100.9786 voidmain www.busterboy.org If you don't find me on CP, I'll be at Bob's HungOut
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I am not against love. I am all for love. But I am against the concept of marriage. I am married too now. So I should know. Even if marriage is to be allowed for, it should only be after at least 5 years of a stable relationship between the same two people [man/woman pair] Nish Sonork ID 100.9786 voidmain www.busterboy.org If you don't find me on CP, I'll be at Bob's HungOut
Nish [BusterBoy] wrote: I am married too now. :confused: You dead serious? Wow. *at a loss for words* How old are you Nish? I honestly thought you were in your early twenties, far too young for marriage. And you never mentioned your girlfriend cum wife before, so what is going on? If I may put my foot in it I hope this is not the result of one of those arranged marriages that still go on in India? If that is the case then I take back what I said and bow to your experience. Nish [BusterBoy] wrote: Even if marriage is to be allowed for, it should only be after at least 5 years of a stable relationship between the same two people I totally agree. I always found it very strange that Christianity basically bars this from happening as apparently it is a sin for two people to live together without being married. Also this is why Janina and I are moving intogether yet only planning on getting married when I hit thirty or so. That will give over 8 years of living together to see if it will work. Nish [BusterBoy] wrote: [man/woman pair] Well there I disagree. I don't see anything wrong with a man marrying a man or a woman marrying a woman. Love knows no boundaries or social norms and love is universal. To many marriage is an affirmation of love (though I think that is the wrong way to go about it, I respect other peoples beliefs and wants) so whether it is man/woman, man/man or woman/woman it is the same thing. regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass Cape Town, South Africa "The greatest thing you will ever learn is to love, and be loved in return" - Moulin Rouge Martin Marvinski wrote: Unfortunatly Deep Throat isn't my cup of tea Do you Sonork? I do! 100.9903 Stormfront
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Nish [BusterBoy] wrote: Blasphemy! Pure unadulterated blasphemy!!! I will stand amongst any crowd, on any website, in any hall, on any stage, over any radio or tv station and declare that there is no finer thing than love! Everything else is just meant to keep us alive so we can spend time making love (making love as in not just sex but being in love, experiencing love, nurturing love.) regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass Cape Town, South Africa "The greatest thing you will ever learn is to love, and be loved in return" - Moulin Rouge Martin Marvinski wrote: Unfortunatly Deep Throat isn't my cup of tea Do you Sonork? I do! 100.9903 Stormfront
It's Janina doing this to him, I bet :-) Paul, you sure have, "I am a man in love and happy too" written all over your face and posts! Nish Sonork ID 100.9786 voidmain www.busterboy.org If you don't find me on CP, I'll be at Bob's HungOut
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Nish [BusterBoy] wrote: I am married too now. :confused: You dead serious? Wow. *at a loss for words* How old are you Nish? I honestly thought you were in your early twenties, far too young for marriage. And you never mentioned your girlfriend cum wife before, so what is going on? If I may put my foot in it I hope this is not the result of one of those arranged marriages that still go on in India? If that is the case then I take back what I said and bow to your experience. Nish [BusterBoy] wrote: Even if marriage is to be allowed for, it should only be after at least 5 years of a stable relationship between the same two people I totally agree. I always found it very strange that Christianity basically bars this from happening as apparently it is a sin for two people to live together without being married. Also this is why Janina and I are moving intogether yet only planning on getting married when I hit thirty or so. That will give over 8 years of living together to see if it will work. Nish [BusterBoy] wrote: [man/woman pair] Well there I disagree. I don't see anything wrong with a man marrying a man or a woman marrying a woman. Love knows no boundaries or social norms and love is universal. To many marriage is an affirmation of love (though I think that is the wrong way to go about it, I respect other peoples beliefs and wants) so whether it is man/woman, man/man or woman/woman it is the same thing. regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass Cape Town, South Africa "The greatest thing you will ever learn is to love, and be loved in return" - Moulin Rouge Martin Marvinski wrote: Unfortunatly Deep Throat isn't my cup of tea Do you Sonork? I do! 100.9903 Stormfront
Paul Watson wrote: How old are you Nish? I honestly thought you were in your early twenties, far too young for marriage. I am 24 now, I got married when I was 23, which is far too early as far as I understand now, and specially for me, since there are times when I behave like 15 and not 24. It was not an arranged marriage as is usual here. I simply married on a whim, even though I started regretting my decision a month or two before the actual marriage date. But by that time the marriage was fixed and arrangements had been made on a massive scale [here marriages are like miniature-christmas things] Nish Sonork ID 100.9786 voidmain www.busterboy.org If you don't find me on CP, I'll be at Bob's HungOut
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It's Janina doing this to him, I bet :-) Paul, you sure have, "I am a man in love and happy too" written all over your face and posts! Nish Sonork ID 100.9786 voidmain www.busterboy.org If you don't find me on CP, I'll be at Bob's HungOut
Nish [BusterBoy] wrote: It's Janina doing this to him, I bet No, life does it to me. I have been a romantic from day one but unfortuantley being the shy type all I could do was think and write about it right up till my first relationship , at the age of 19. Nish [BusterBoy] wrote: Paul, you sure have, "I am a man in love and happy too" written all over your face and posts! I wish everyone the same fortune Nish, everyone :) regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass Cape Town, South Africa "The greatest thing you will ever learn is to love, and be loved in return" - Moulin Rouge Martin Marvinski wrote: Unfortunatly Deep Throat isn't my cup of tea Do you Sonork? I do! 100.9903 Stormfront
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Nish [BusterBoy] wrote: It's Janina doing this to him, I bet No, life does it to me. I have been a romantic from day one but unfortuantley being the shy type all I could do was think and write about it right up till my first relationship , at the age of 19. Nish [BusterBoy] wrote: Paul, you sure have, "I am a man in love and happy too" written all over your face and posts! I wish everyone the same fortune Nish, everyone :) regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass Cape Town, South Africa "The greatest thing you will ever learn is to love, and be loved in return" - Moulin Rouge Martin Marvinski wrote: Unfortunatly Deep Throat isn't my cup of tea Do you Sonork? I do! 100.9903 Stormfront
Paul Watson wrote: I wish everyone the same fortune Nish, everyone If wishes were horses, I'd have enough to start a horse-ranch cum racing club in 25,000 of the world's cities Nish Sonork ID 100.9786 voidmain www.busterboy.org If you don't find me on CP, I'll be at Bob's HungOut
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Ravi Bhavnani wrote: Ah... sometimes I think so, but often I don't. That black hole that Nish talks about? Fall into it. It is not so black and in fact is far better than any computer or programming challenge. regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass Cape Town, South Africa "The greatest thing you will ever learn is to love, and be loved in return" - Moulin Rouge Martin Marvinski wrote: Unfortunatly Deep Throat isn't my cup of tea Do you Sonork? I do! 100.9903 Stormfront
Yes, I'm inclined to believe that! /ravi "There is always one more bug..." http://www.ravib.com ravib@ravib.com
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Ed K wrote: I don't believe in friendships between the sexes BTW You honestly don't think a female and a male can have a platonic friendship? While I agree that in a lot of cases the issue of "are we friends or lovers?" comes up there are some cases were it really is platonic and you both know it. Ok I am going to put my foot in it again (and make Christian think I am a girl again) but some of my best friendships have been with a woman and not a guy. Guys have a lot of issues with opening up that girls don't have. my 2 cents regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass Cape Town, South Africa "The greatest thing you will ever learn is to love, and be loved in return" - Moulin Rouge Martin Marvinski wrote: Unfortunatly Deep Throat isn't my cup of tea Do you Sonork? I do! 100.9903 Stormfront
Paul Watson wrote: You honestly don't think a female and a male can have a platonic friendship? I wanted to ask him the same question, but then I decided that people who think that are probably not going to get convinced otherwise by you or me...
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Paul Watson wrote: You honestly don't think a female and a male can have a platonic friendship? I wanted to ask him the same question, but then I decided that people who think that are probably not going to get convinced otherwise by you or me...
Konstantin Vasserman wrote: I wanted to ask him the same question, but then I decided that people who think that are probably not going to get convinced otherwise by you or me... LOL true, very true. However I had to try and help the poor ignorant chap... This is one of the reasons why I am not a Christian. If I were then I would be praying for everyone and handing them "save yourself" brochures all the time. I cannot idly sit by and watch someone walk down an errant path. :) regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass Cape Town, South Africa "The greatest thing you will ever learn is to love, and be loved in return" - Moulin Rouge Martin Marvinski wrote: Unfortunatly Deep Throat isn't my cup of tea Do you Sonork? I do! 100.9903 Stormfront
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Konstantin Vasserman wrote: I wanted to ask him the same question, but then I decided that people who think that are probably not going to get convinced otherwise by you or me... LOL true, very true. However I had to try and help the poor ignorant chap... This is one of the reasons why I am not a Christian. If I were then I would be praying for everyone and handing them "save yourself" brochures all the time. I cannot idly sit by and watch someone walk down an errant path. :) regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass Cape Town, South Africa "The greatest thing you will ever learn is to love, and be loved in return" - Moulin Rouge Martin Marvinski wrote: Unfortunatly Deep Throat isn't my cup of tea Do you Sonork? I do! 100.9903 Stormfront
Something that I am learning lately: some people are beyond help. I am the same way as you are - my first intention is to jump in and try to explain that someone is wrong (according to my believe), but I find that it almost never works, so lately I refrain myself from doing so. Unless a person comes to me for advice because they recognize that they have a problem or they trying to push their believe on me I try not to engage in the argument.
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Something that I am learning lately: some people are beyond help. I am the same way as you are - my first intention is to jump in and try to explain that someone is wrong (according to my believe), but I find that it almost never works, so lately I refrain myself from doing so. Unless a person comes to me for advice because they recognize that they have a problem or they trying to push their believe on me I try not to engage in the argument.
Konstantin Vasserman wrote: I am the same way as you are - my first intention is to jump in and try to explain that someone is wrong (according to my believe), but I find that it almost never works Yeah, you may have noticed this is a "flaw" in me too (I can see all the heads nodding right now! hehe). I have always believed that I can change people by simple, pure, logical arguements. This belief of mine leads me to express my opinions a lot more than is wise. However I never want someone to think I am forcing it down their throat, even though they mat see it that way. If the person gives a stern "Paul, shut up, I am not interested" then I will stop. But if it is just a "no but I think..." reply then I see that as an invitation to carry on hammering my point home. I am way too intense about my beliefs. I feel they are all, almost all, logical and I don't see how others cannot see the truth in them! Of course I am young and naive and have a lot to learn still :) Ok, now I will shut up... :-D regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass Cape Town, South Africa "The greatest thing you will ever learn is to love, and be loved in return" - Moulin Rouge Martin Marvinski wrote: Unfortunatly Deep Throat isn't my cup of tea Do you Sonork? I do! 100.9903 Stormfront
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Konstantin Vasserman wrote: I am the same way as you are - my first intention is to jump in and try to explain that someone is wrong (according to my believe), but I find that it almost never works Yeah, you may have noticed this is a "flaw" in me too (I can see all the heads nodding right now! hehe). I have always believed that I can change people by simple, pure, logical arguements. This belief of mine leads me to express my opinions a lot more than is wise. However I never want someone to think I am forcing it down their throat, even though they mat see it that way. If the person gives a stern "Paul, shut up, I am not interested" then I will stop. But if it is just a "no but I think..." reply then I see that as an invitation to carry on hammering my point home. I am way too intense about my beliefs. I feel they are all, almost all, logical and I don't see how others cannot see the truth in them! Of course I am young and naive and have a lot to learn still :) Ok, now I will shut up... :-D regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass Cape Town, South Africa "The greatest thing you will ever learn is to love, and be loved in return" - Moulin Rouge Martin Marvinski wrote: Unfortunatly Deep Throat isn't my cup of tea Do you Sonork? I do! 100.9903 Stormfront
When we do those things (trying to convince other people to our believes) we act the same as those Christians that you have mentioned. That is why I've come to a conclusion that it is a bad thing. You cannot change people, at least not adults. The only way an adult person changes is when something happens in their live that is very dramatic and they are forced to rethink their attitude towards a given subject. I see it over and over again. Even after the person walks away from the discussion with you nodding and agreeing I bet you anything that they do it not because they really agree with you, but because they are tired of confrontation. You cannot change how person feels inside about it (whatever it is).
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Mike Mullikin wrote: How can you be confused? What the hell did you talk about for 6 hours? I had a friend much like Adams once, though I was not quite so love-stricken over her as he is. We would talk for hours on the phone (she lived in New Zealand and I was in London the one time, the phone bill was huge) but it would be about life in general, not how she felt about me or I her. It was great but as Adam has said you left the conversation still feeling very confused. I can imagine though that part of her conversation with Adam was over her last boyfriend, that can be a killer! You just want to scream "shut up and listen to how much I love you, you daft broad!" Mike Mullikin wrote: I don't think I've spent 6 hours talking to my wife on the phone... total... in 16 years!!! Just curious but you have spent more than 6 hours talking in person, right? Talking as in talking, not chatting about the weather, work or the bills. Mike Mullikin wrote: Damn the torpedoes, full speed ahead!!! LMAO! Great analogy! regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass Cape Town, South Africa "The greatest thing you will ever learn is to love, and be loved in return" - Moulin Rouge Martin Marvinski wrote: Unfortunatly Deep Throat isn't my cup of tea Do you Sonork? I do! 100.9903 Stormfront
Paul Watson wrote: Just curious but you have spent more than 6 hours talking in person, right? Talking as in talking, not chatting about the weather, work or the bills. Absolutely, we talk all the time! Beyond being my wife and the mother of my 2 children she is my best friend, confidant and soul mate. It's just that neither one of us likes using the telephone much. I suppose it's the fact that Ginny and I talk so openly and freely that I don't understand why everybody doesn't.
Mike Mullikin - Sonork 100.10096 "Programming is like sex. One mistake and you have to support it for the rest of your life." - Michael Sinz
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Paul Watson wrote: Just curious but you have spent more than 6 hours talking in person, right? Talking as in talking, not chatting about the weather, work or the bills. Absolutely, we talk all the time! Beyond being my wife and the mother of my 2 children she is my best friend, confidant and soul mate. It's just that neither one of us likes using the telephone much. I suppose it's the fact that Ginny and I talk so openly and freely that I don't understand why everybody doesn't.
Mike Mullikin - Sonork 100.10096 "Programming is like sex. One mistake and you have to support it for the rest of your life." - Michael Sinz
Mike Mullikin wrote: she is my best friend, confidant and soul mate :-D so glad to hear a married man say that. I was begining to think that a happy married couple was something I imagined, based on what the other married guys say here. Mike Mullikin wrote: It's just that neither one of us likes using the telephone much. The only time Janina and I talk on the phone more than "I am coming home know, anything you need from the shop?" is when I am in London and we cannot get our "face to face fix." Mike Mullikin wrote: I suppose it's the fact that Ginny and I talk so openly and freely that I don't understand why everybody doesn't I don't understand other couples either. I mean they share the same house, kids, lives, food, pets, cars, holidays, family etc. etc. yet they can hardly share a feeling or thought between the two of them when in the same room! What is that? Thanks Mike, you make my seemingly naive hopes for Janina and I seem a lot more realistic than the rest seem to think :) regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass Cape Town, South Africa "The greatest thing you will ever learn is to love, and be loved in return" - Moulin Rouge Martin Marvinski wrote: Unfortunatly Deep Throat isn't my cup of tea Do you Sonork? I do! 100.9903 Stormfront
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Ed K wrote: I don't believe in friendships between the sexes BTW You honestly don't think a female and a male can have a platonic friendship? While I agree that in a lot of cases the issue of "are we friends or lovers?" comes up there are some cases were it really is platonic and you both know it. Ok I am going to put my foot in it again (and make Christian think I am a girl again) but some of my best friendships have been with a woman and not a guy. Guys have a lot of issues with opening up that girls don't have. my 2 cents regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass Cape Town, South Africa "The greatest thing you will ever learn is to love, and be loved in return" - Moulin Rouge Martin Marvinski wrote: Unfortunatly Deep Throat isn't my cup of tea Do you Sonork? I do! 100.9903 Stormfront
Before I get called an 'ignorant chap' again :-O , maybe I should be given a chance to explain. My belief comes from experience in two areas of my life. Personally I enjoy hanging out with girls better than hanging out with guys myself. Problem is that no matter what the relation is, there is always the sexual tension. Now if I were gay, I guess that wouldn't be a problem, however...I'm not talking about gay guys having female friends. The friendship becomes a problem when I have to remind myself that I'm married and I shouldn't get myself into these kind of situations. Now if I weren't married, I would be hounding around making all the girlfriends I possibly could!:laugh: That isn't what I'm talking about either! Several years back I worked for the Dallas Police. When I moved to the day shift, I found that 2 of the 5 days I worked I answered a disturbance regarding the husband coming home, after working a night shift, to find his lovely bride in bed with another guy. Being the inquisitive person that I am, I would find out what got them mixed up in the first place. The brides excuse was _always_ that it started off just a friendship. So, you can always tell me that you have this girl friend and sex never enters your mind. I believe you. I also believe that that is not the norm or that there is no chance of a sexual encounter...for whatever reason :rolleyes: but I won't go there! If you can handle it, enjoy...I would if I could, but my wife knows better! PS: Women just love uniforms!:laugh: ed 'Love is an obsessive delusion that is cured by marriage.' Dr. Karl Bowman