Reactions to the Tsunami
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I'm just repeating some views published in the British newspapers, so please don't flame me! :rose: (1) The speed of the American responce was much slower than most of Europe. (2) The money given by America so far, doesn't come close to the $8billion they've wasted in Iraq (3) There is a death toll the same every day in Africa, so we should be just as shocked about that too but it doesn't get the publicity.
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http://www.jvf.co.ukJeremy Davis wrote: (1) The speed of the American responce was much slower than most of Europe. It's nice that both the US and Europe helped. There is no need to judge who helped more or who helped first. Jeremy Davis wrote: (2) The money given by America so far, doesn't come close to the $8billion they've wasted in Iraq Their money, their choice. Jeremy Davis wrote: (3) There is a death toll the same every day in Africa, so we should be just as shocked about that too but it doesn't get the publicity. Sentence is self-explanatory. If it doesn't get publicity how do people help out?
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John Carson wrote: It is fantastic that people have donated for relief efforts Yes it is. The point is we shouldn't deminish the good we do simply because there is more work to be done. BW
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-Days of the Newbrianwelsch wrote: The point is we shouldn't deminish the good we do simply because there is more work to be done. I agree and I haven't heard any significant complaints about the good that is being done. Instead, I hear a fairly constant stream of praise. The fact that people have responded with such generousity to the tsunami appeal presents an ideal opportunity to draw their attention to a still greater problem. Those involved in development efforts would be derelict in their responsibilities if they did not take advantage of this opportunity. Fortunately, they have discharged their responsibilities appropriately and have done the right thing in pointing out the much greater problems that remain to be tackled. John Carson Patriotism is the virtue of the vicious. Oscar Wilde
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You self-serving bastard. Don't you realize what's happening here? People are happy to giving money to help those affected by this disaster. People are happy to give money to help those affected by this disaster! How dare they?! Look at all the heartbreak and misery caused by this tsunami, yet they would be happy in the face of this? "Oh, but they can be happy in the thought that some of what they're giving will perhaps reduce some of this sadness and pain" - bah. Don't they realize? People are being murdered by soldiers and insurgents in Iraq! Tortured by shadowy state organizations in Syria! Infected with AIDS by horny truck drivers in Africa! Untold masses cry out in agony each day, yet some would take heart in the thought that their pittance will help someone? This is spitting in the face of all those who are *not* helped... NO! Rather it is spitting in their face, and then turning away while they die, alone, in pain. You sick, heartless, selfish fools. And then to look for some sort of approval? Praise?! Commendation?!! It doesn't end with this tsunami, either. I saw a woman drinking coffee this morning, smiling at the warmth of the sun on a beautiful day... WHILE CHILDREN ARE SHOT LIKE RATS IN SOUTH AMERICA! I heard a man laugh at his good fortune not to have been hurt more severely falling off an icy stairs onto a cinder block... failing to acknowledge that while he was escaping with only fractures and bruises, NELSON MANDELA'S SON DIED OF AIDS! I listened to a woman's story of how acupuncture gained her some minor relief from the constant headaches she suffers from... but noticed she said nothing of THE FOURTEEN PEOPLE DEAD IN A TRAIN WRECK IN ITALY! X| I don't mean to attack you unduly, Brian - as heinous as your attitude is, you are far from alone. But open your eyes to the damage you do, to the insult that is trying to help some when not all can be helped, and the greater insult that is taking joy in anything, when others are suffering. Repent, find a dark hole somewhere, and sit motionless in darkness helping no-one and taking satisfaction in nothing, until starvation or the rats end your life as they've done with so many of those lives that you haven't helped. :| :rolleyes:
You left me high and dry and chanShog9 wrote: But open your eyes to the damage you do, to the insult that is trying to help some when not all can be helped, and the greater insult that is taking joy in anything, when others are suffering. Repent, find a dark hole somewhere, and sit motionless in darkness helping no-one and taking satisfaction in nothing, until starvation or the rats end your life as they've done with so many of those lives that you haven't helped. You make your point well, but I am not sure that it is relevant. The people who are drawing attention to the plight of Africa are not, as you seem to suppose, killjoys who believe in helping no-one. They are in many cases people deeply involved in development efforts. They are delighted at the generousity being shown to the tsunami victims and would simply like to see others receiving similar assistance. They also have a legitimate concern that, rather than aid budgets being expanded to assist tsunami victims, funds may simply be redirected away from Africa where the need is greater. The fact that the situation in Africa receives so little attention is a matter for concern, and now is an ideal opportunity to raise the issue. The following links give a more accurate picture of the concerns of those talking about Africa: http://news.scotsman.com/latest.cfm?id=3967707[^] http://www.cbc.ca/story/world/national/2005/01/07/africa-aid050107.html[^] John Carson Patriotism is the virtue of the vicious. Oscar Wilde
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You self-serving bastard. Don't you realize what's happening here? People are happy to giving money to help those affected by this disaster. People are happy to give money to help those affected by this disaster! How dare they?! Look at all the heartbreak and misery caused by this tsunami, yet they would be happy in the face of this? "Oh, but they can be happy in the thought that some of what they're giving will perhaps reduce some of this sadness and pain" - bah. Don't they realize? People are being murdered by soldiers and insurgents in Iraq! Tortured by shadowy state organizations in Syria! Infected with AIDS by horny truck drivers in Africa! Untold masses cry out in agony each day, yet some would take heart in the thought that their pittance will help someone? This is spitting in the face of all those who are *not* helped... NO! Rather it is spitting in their face, and then turning away while they die, alone, in pain. You sick, heartless, selfish fools. And then to look for some sort of approval? Praise?! Commendation?!! It doesn't end with this tsunami, either. I saw a woman drinking coffee this morning, smiling at the warmth of the sun on a beautiful day... WHILE CHILDREN ARE SHOT LIKE RATS IN SOUTH AMERICA! I heard a man laugh at his good fortune not to have been hurt more severely falling off an icy stairs onto a cinder block... failing to acknowledge that while he was escaping with only fractures and bruises, NELSON MANDELA'S SON DIED OF AIDS! I listened to a woman's story of how acupuncture gained her some minor relief from the constant headaches she suffers from... but noticed she said nothing of THE FOURTEEN PEOPLE DEAD IN A TRAIN WRECK IN ITALY! X| I don't mean to attack you unduly, Brian - as heinous as your attitude is, you are far from alone. But open your eyes to the damage you do, to the insult that is trying to help some when not all can be helped, and the greater insult that is taking joy in anything, when others are suffering. Repent, find a dark hole somewhere, and sit motionless in darkness helping no-one and taking satisfaction in nothing, until starvation or the rats end your life as they've done with so many of those lives that you haven't helped. :| :rolleyes:
You left me high and dry and chanGreat post, I wish I could write like that. The weird thing is I now have an irisistable urge to drink some coffee. :sigh:
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Jason Henderson wrote: Big natural disasters always seem to take precedence over everyday deaths. I'll bet we loose thousands in car accidents in america everyday too, but that doesn't get as much publicity. The people who died are dead, so we can't help them. But there are millions displaced or hurt by the tsunamis so in that regard I think Africa pales by comparison. wow... you sound very uneducated in that statement. African nations may not loose the millions displaced/hurt by the tsunamis everyday. Take for instance, one African nation, Sudan. 1.2 million people have been displaced, and 71 000 people (non-Arabs) have died because the government is Arab and hates the native non-Arabs. The government is supporting a group, Janjaweed, which goes into the non-Arab villages to execute people, raid villages, and rape the women. That is why I find your last few words, "Africa pales by comparison", ignorant. Please tell this to the people who must leave their homes because their government hates them. The United States has declared Sudan to be a genocide, but the AU, EU, and UN haven't yet. Remember just because a nation is "backwards" in trade doesn't mean that you can judge them for choosing to live different. There is more to life than money. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Darfur_conflict[^] -Steven Hicks
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(Steven Hicks)n+1 wrote: That is why I find your last few words, "Africa pales by comparison", ignorant. Please tell this to the people who must leave their homes because their government hates them. Remember that we're talking about the reactions of government, mass media and the general populace, not my personal reaction. IMO, the death of 1,000 is just as bad as the death of 100,000. But the impact each death has on other people grows geometrically the higher the death toll, not to mention the shear amount of destruction a natural disaster like this causes. For example, if 100,000 people were to die in an anthrax attack, the number of people affected would be enormous compared with an event that killed 1000. But if it were a nuclear attack that killed 100k and also destroyed buildings and displaced millions more, then that attack would be even more devastating and would pale the anthrax attack in comparison. I'm not saying we should abandon Africa, but the tsunami deserves more attention at this point in time.
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I'm just repeating some views published in the British newspapers, so please don't flame me! :rose: (1) The speed of the American responce was much slower than most of Europe. (2) The money given by America so far, doesn't come close to the $8billion they've wasted in Iraq (3) There is a death toll the same every day in Africa, so we should be just as shocked about that too but it doesn't get the publicity.
I feel like I'm diagonally parked in a parallel universe Jerry Davis http://www.astad.org
http://www.jvf.co.ukWhat did you expect. This is European neosocialism at its best - conspiracy theories, lies, and America bashing. It's our best export product. :sigh: Some facts, thoughts, and media reporting examples [^] about this issue. Tomaz
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Kant wrote: They die because of AIDS. As you know, AIDS is old story. Not all die in AIDS. Many Africans die because of the local looney's quest for power. :( -- I got nasty habits. I take tea at three. -- Mick Jagger I blog too now[^]
Jörgen Sigvardsson wrote: Many Africans die because of the local looney's quest for power. Where was your compassion for the Iraqis under Saddam Hussein? You walked right into that one. Jason ducks for cover.
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What did you expect. This is European neosocialism at its best - conspiracy theories, lies, and America bashing. It's our best export product. :sigh: Some facts, thoughts, and media reporting examples [^] about this issue. Tomaz
Tomaž Štih wrote: What did you expect. This is European neosocialism at its best - conspiracy theories, lies, and America bashing. It's our best export product. Some facts, thoughts, and media reporting examples [^] about this issue. The second item on this list concerns a German reporter who dared to ask American officials the following heinous question: It's a tremendous effort you're conducting right now. And how far are there political considerations? You know, there has been high criticisms of the war in Iraq. And how far is it the attempt of the United States to present itself as the benevolent superpower and to decrease the criticism of the past, especially in countries like Indonesia, which is a very important Muslim country? Fancy suggesting that America might be trying to improve its image! What a shocking thought. Here is a report on what Colin Powell had to say in a recent interview: The image of U.S. choppers delivering aid to tsunami victims may ease anti-American sentiment in the Muslim world and help in the fight against terrorism, Secretary of State Colin Powell said yesterday. "We'd be doing it regardless of religion," Powell told a news conference in Jakarta, the Indonesian capital. "But I think it does give the Muslim world and the rest of the world an opportunity to see American generosity, American values in action — that we care about every individual and the dignity of every individual," he said. Powell, who is on a fact-finding tour of the tsunami-ravaged region with Florida Gov. Jeb Bush, said the United States is not an "anti-Muslim nation," as critics of the war in Iraq contend. "America is a diverse society where we respect all religions," he said. "And I hope that as a result of our efforts, as a result of our helicopter pilots being seen by the citizens of Indonesia helping them, that value system of ours will be reinforced." New York Post[^] Jerusalem Post[^] So I guess Colin Powell is a European neosocialist peddling conspiracy theories, lies, and America bashing. You really are full of crap Tomaz.
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Jeremy Davis wrote: (1) The speed of the American responce was much slower than most of Europe. Duah, Dubya!! I guess some expert team spent sometime to tell Dubya what Tsunami means. As usual Dubya took some time to digest. That's why the slow response. Jeremy Davis wrote: (2) The money given by America so far, doesn't come close to the $8billion they've wasted in Iraq Did somebody say Oil? Jeremy Davis wrote: (3) There is a death toll the same every day in Africa, so we should be just as shocked about that too but it doesn't get the publicity. They die because of AIDS. As you know, AIDS is old story.
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This signature was created by "Code Project Quoter".Kant wrote: They die because of AIDS. As you know, AIDS is old story. In addition to what other said, they also die due to famine. They don't have food cuz they don't have technology, etc. Never forget: "Stay kul and happy" (I.A.)
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Jörgen Sigvardsson wrote: Many Africans die because of the local looney's quest for power. Where was your compassion for the Iraqis under Saddam Hussein? You walked right into that one. Jason ducks for cover.
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Jeremy Davis wrote: (1) The speed of the American responce was much slower than most of Europe. It's uhh.. much further away from the disaster area? Jeremy Davis wrote: (2) The money given by America so far, doesn't come close to the $8billion they've wasted in Iraq Iraq promises bigger rewards. So what's the news here? Jeremy Davis wrote: (3) There is a death toll the same every day in Africa, so we should be just as shocked about that too but it doesn't get the publicity. Well, a very few of us white europeans go there for vacations. So we simply don't give a fuck. Add a pinch of sarcasm. -- I got nasty habits. I take tea at three. -- Mick Jagger I blog too now[^]
>Well, a very few of us white europeans go there for vacations. So we simply don't give a f***. Bzzzt, wrong. South Africa receives millions of foreign tourists every year, a majority of which are European. The biggest group being German. The rest of Africa also receives it's fair share of tourists. Egypt, Kenya, Morocco, Botswana, Mozambique, Namibia and up until recently, Zimbabwe. I admit certain areas of Africa do not get many tourists e.g. Sudan, Liberia and the Congo. They come to see lions, elephants and even tigers (no, we don't frikkin have tigers!) wandering amongst our cities. Which reminds me, I have to go feed Tabanchu, my pet zebra. Plus the Great Rift Valley (poor Grand Canyon), Kilimanjaro, Victoria Falls (from the Botswana side now), Kariba, Lake Victoria, Kalahari, Sahara, Etosha, Okavango Delta and much more. But you are right; They still don't give a fuck. regards, Paul Watson South Africa The Code Project South-East Asia Disaster: How you can help Pope Pius II said "The only prescription is more cowbell. "
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It's a figure. The war was an exagerration. :rolleyes: -- I got nasty habits. I take tea at three. -- Mick Jagger I blog too now[^]
*snigger* regards, Paul Watson South Africa The Code Project South-East Asia Disaster: How you can help Pope Pius II said "The only prescription is more cowbell. "
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Great post, I wish I could write like that. The weird thing is I now have an irisistable urge to drink some coffee. :sigh:
I can imagine the sinking feeling one would have after ordering my book, only to find a laughably ridiculous theory with demented logic once the book arrives - Mark McCutcheon
...to slip on some ice while having acupuncture on a train, and then smile about it. regards, Paul Watson South Africa The Code Project South-East Asia Disaster: How you can help Pope Pius II said "The only prescription is more cowbell. "
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Jörgen Sigvardsson wrote: Many Africans die because of the local looney's quest for power. Where was your compassion for the Iraqis under Saddam Hussein? You walked right into that one. Jason ducks for cover.
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Jason Henderson
blogI never said SH was a good leader. What I did say was my objections against taking the country by force. As you can see now, Iraq is far from the USA worshiping muslim state Bush had hoped for. And please don't use the word compassion when talking about the invasion of Iraq. Compassion was the last reason why Iraq was invaded. -- I got nasty habits. I take tea at three. -- Mick Jagger I blog too now[^]
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Is this the if (Believe(war.isIllegal)) saddam.Lover++; again?
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No, it's the if(have(I, opportunity)) stick_it(the_lib)); :rolleyes: -- I got nasty habits. I take tea at three. -- Mick Jagger I blog too now[^]