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  • S Steven Hicks n 1

    Jason Henderson wrote: Big natural disasters always seem to take precedence over everyday deaths. I'll bet we loose thousands in car accidents in america everyday too, but that doesn't get as much publicity. The people who died are dead, so we can't help them. But there are millions displaced or hurt by the tsunamis so in that regard I think Africa pales by comparison. wow... you sound very uneducated in that statement. African nations may not loose the millions displaced/hurt by the tsunamis everyday. Take for instance, one African nation, Sudan. 1.2 million people have been displaced, and 71 000 people (non-Arabs) have died because the government is Arab and hates the native non-Arabs. The government is supporting a group, Janjaweed, which goes into the non-Arab villages to execute people, raid villages, and rape the women. That is why I find your last few words, "Africa pales by comparison", ignorant. Please tell this to the people who must leave their homes because their government hates them. The United States has declared Sudan to be a genocide, but the AU, EU, and UN haven't yet. Remember just because a nation is "backwards" in trade doesn't mean that you can judge them for choosing to live different. There is more to life than money. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Darfur_conflict[^] -Steven Hicks

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    Jason Henderson
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    (Steven Hicks)n+1 wrote: That is why I find your last few words, "Africa pales by comparison", ignorant. Please tell this to the people who must leave their homes because their government hates them. Remember that we're talking about the reactions of government, mass media and the general populace, not my personal reaction. IMO, the death of 1,000 is just as bad as the death of 100,000. But the impact each death has on other people grows geometrically the higher the death toll, not to mention the shear amount of destruction a natural disaster like this causes. For example, if 100,000 people were to die in an anthrax attack, the number of people affected would be enormous compared with an event that killed 1000. But if it were a nuclear attack that killed 100k and also destroyed buildings and displaced millions more, then that attack would be even more devastating and would pale the anthrax attack in comparison. I'm not saying we should abandon Africa, but the tsunami deserves more attention at this point in time.

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      I'm just repeating some views published in the British newspapers, so please don't flame me! :rose: (1) The speed of the American responce was much slower than most of Europe. (2) The money given by America so far, doesn't come close to the $8billion they've wasted in Iraq (3) There is a death toll the same every day in Africa, so we should be just as shocked about that too but it doesn't get the publicity.


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      Tomaz Stih 0
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      What did you expect. This is European neosocialism at its best - conspiracy theories, lies, and America bashing. It's our best export product. :sigh: Some facts, thoughts, and media reporting examples [^] about this issue. Tomaz

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      • J Jorgen Sigvardsson

        Kant wrote: They die because of AIDS. As you know, AIDS is old story. Not all die in AIDS. Many Africans die because of the local looney's quest for power. :( -- I got nasty habits. I take tea at three. -- Mick Jagger I blog too now[^]

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        Jörgen Sigvardsson wrote: Many Africans die because of the local looney's quest for power. Where was your compassion for the Iraqis under Saddam Hussein? You walked right into that one. Jason ducks for cover.

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          What did you expect. This is European neosocialism at its best - conspiracy theories, lies, and America bashing. It's our best export product. :sigh: Some facts, thoughts, and media reporting examples [^] about this issue. Tomaz

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          John Carson
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          Tomaž Štih wrote: What did you expect. This is European neosocialism at its best - conspiracy theories, lies, and America bashing. It's our best export product. Some facts, thoughts, and media reporting examples [^] about this issue. The second item on this list concerns a German reporter who dared to ask American officials the following heinous question: It's a tremendous effort you're conducting right now. And how far are there political considerations? You know, there has been high criticisms of the war in Iraq. And how far is it the attempt of the United States to present itself as the benevolent superpower and to decrease the criticism of the past, especially in countries like Indonesia, which is a very important Muslim country? Fancy suggesting that America might be trying to improve its image! What a shocking thought. Here is a report on what Colin Powell had to say in a recent interview: The image of U.S. choppers delivering aid to tsunami victims may ease anti-American sentiment in the Muslim world and help in the fight against terrorism, Secretary of State Colin Powell said yesterday. "We'd be doing it regardless of religion," Powell told a news conference in Jakarta, the Indonesian capital. "But I think it does give the Muslim world and the rest of the world an opportunity to see American generosity, American values in action — that we care about every individual and the dignity of every individual," he said. Powell, who is on a fact-finding tour of the tsunami-ravaged region with Florida Gov. Jeb Bush, said the United States is not an "anti-Muslim nation," as critics of the war in Iraq contend. "America is a diverse society where we respect all religions," he said. "And I hope that as a result of our efforts, as a result of our helicopter pilots being seen by the citizens of Indonesia helping them, that value system of ours will be reinforced." New York Post[^] Jerusalem Post[^] So I guess Colin Powell is a European neosocialist peddling conspiracy theories, lies, and America bashing. You really are full of crap Tomaz.

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          • K Kant

            Jeremy Davis wrote: (1) The speed of the American responce was much slower than most of Europe. Duah, Dubya!! I guess some expert team spent sometime to tell Dubya what Tsunami means. As usual Dubya took some time to digest. That's why the slow response. Jeremy Davis wrote: (2) The money given by America so far, doesn't come close to the $8billion they've wasted in Iraq Did somebody say Oil? Jeremy Davis wrote: (3) There is a death toll the same every day in Africa, so we should be just as shocked about that too but it doesn't get the publicity. They die because of AIDS. As you know, AIDS is old story.
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            Kant wrote: They die because of AIDS. As you know, AIDS is old story. In addition to what other said, they also die due to famine. They don't have food cuz they don't have technology, etc. Never forget: "Stay kul and happy" (I.A.)

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            • J Jason Henderson

              Jörgen Sigvardsson wrote: Many Africans die because of the local looney's quest for power. Where was your compassion for the Iraqis under Saddam Hussein? You walked right into that one. Jason ducks for cover.

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              David Wulff
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              Is this the if (Believe(war.isIllegal)) saddam.Lover++; again?


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              • J Jorgen Sigvardsson

                Jeremy Davis wrote: (1) The speed of the American responce was much slower than most of Europe. It's uhh.. much further away from the disaster area? Jeremy Davis wrote: (2) The money given by America so far, doesn't come close to the $8billion they've wasted in Iraq Iraq promises bigger rewards. So what's the news here? Jeremy Davis wrote: (3) There is a death toll the same every day in Africa, so we should be just as shocked about that too but it doesn't get the publicity. Well, a very few of us white europeans go there for vacations. So we simply don't give a fuck. Add a pinch of sarcasm. -- I got nasty habits. I take tea at three. -- Mick Jagger I blog too now[^]

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                >Well, a very few of us white europeans go there for vacations. So we simply don't give a f***. Bzzzt, wrong. South Africa receives millions of foreign tourists every year, a majority of which are European. The biggest group being German. The rest of Africa also receives it's fair share of tourists. Egypt, Kenya, Morocco, Botswana, Mozambique, Namibia and up until recently, Zimbabwe. I admit certain areas of Africa do not get many tourists e.g. Sudan, Liberia and the Congo. They come to see lions, elephants and even tigers (no, we don't frikkin have tigers!) wandering amongst our cities. Which reminds me, I have to go feed Tabanchu, my pet zebra. Plus the Great Rift Valley (poor Grand Canyon), Kilimanjaro, Victoria Falls (from the Botswana side now), Kariba, Lake Victoria, Kalahari, Sahara, Etosha, Okavango Delta and much more. But you are right; They still don't give a fuck. regards, Paul Watson South Africa The Code Project South-East Asia Disaster: How you can help Pope Pius II said "The only prescription is more cowbell. "

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                • J Jorgen Sigvardsson

                  It's a figure. The war was an exagerration. :rolleyes: -- I got nasty habits. I take tea at three. -- Mick Jagger I blog too now[^]

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                  *snigger* regards, Paul Watson South Africa The Code Project South-East Asia Disaster: How you can help Pope Pius II said "The only prescription is more cowbell. "

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                  • A Andy Brummer

                    Great post, I wish I could write like that. The weird thing is I now have an irisistable urge to drink some coffee. :sigh:


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                    Paul Watson
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                    ...to slip on some ice while having acupuncture on a train, and then smile about it. regards, Paul Watson South Africa The Code Project South-East Asia Disaster: How you can help Pope Pius II said "The only prescription is more cowbell. "

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                    • J Jason Henderson

                      Jörgen Sigvardsson wrote: Many Africans die because of the local looney's quest for power. Where was your compassion for the Iraqis under Saddam Hussein? You walked right into that one. Jason ducks for cover.

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                      Jorgen Sigvardsson
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                      I never said SH was a good leader. What I did say was my objections against taking the country by force. As you can see now, Iraq is far from the USA worshiping muslim state Bush had hoped for. And please don't use the word compassion when talking about the invasion of Iraq. Compassion was the last reason why Iraq was invaded. -- I got nasty habits. I take tea at three. -- Mick Jagger I blog too now[^]

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                        Is this the if (Believe(war.isIllegal)) saddam.Lover++; again?


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                        Jorgen Sigvardsson
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                        No, it's the if(have(I, opportunity)) stick_it(the_lib)); :rolleyes: -- I got nasty habits. I take tea at three. -- Mick Jagger I blog too now[^]

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                        • J Jorgen Sigvardsson

                          No, it's the if(have(I, opportunity)) stick_it(the_lib)); :rolleyes: -- I got nasty habits. I take tea at three. -- Mick Jagger I blog too now[^]

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                          Jason Henderson
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                          ;P just yanking your chain Jörgen

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