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I've never had a hard disk go bad on me ... until now. A few moments ago I was sitting quite happily pondering over some code when I heard a lound crunching noise and something going tap, tap, tap on my second pc (fortunately not the one I do development on). I looked over to see lots of filesystem errors on the console and now the thing won't boot telling me that the HD is duff. Aargh, at least I have my backups. Moral of the story - you may think your HD won't go bad, but eventually it will so make sure you keep up to date backups.
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I've never had a hard disk go bad on me ... until now. A few moments ago I was sitting quite happily pondering over some code when I heard a lound crunching noise and something going tap, tap, tap on my second pc (fortunately not the one I do development on). I looked over to see lots of filesystem errors on the console and now the thing won't boot telling me that the HD is duff. Aargh, at least I have my backups. Moral of the story - you may think your HD won't go bad, but eventually it will so make sure you keep up to date backups.
Yeah, I had a drive die on me once (and on that machine I had no backups! Arrgh!) - Dead to such a point that nothing recognised it as a drive anymore (but you could hear the head scraping about when it powered up!) My Fiancee had the drive on her Mac die on her too, but thankfully that was under warranty, so Apple took it away, recovered the data, and put a new drive back in (dunno if they charged for the recovery though) -- Help me! I'm turning into a grapefruit! Phoenix Paint - back from DPaint's ashes!
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Yeah, I had a drive die on me once (and on that machine I had no backups! Arrgh!) - Dead to such a point that nothing recognised it as a drive anymore (but you could hear the head scraping about when it powered up!) My Fiancee had the drive on her Mac die on her too, but thankfully that was under warranty, so Apple took it away, recovered the data, and put a new drive back in (dunno if they charged for the recovery though) -- Help me! I'm turning into a grapefruit! Phoenix Paint - back from DPaint's ashes!
benjymous wrote: you could hear the head scraping Thats a very good way of describing it. I never imagined that it would make such a noise - I thought it would just stop working quietly :~ Unfortunately my disk is out of warranty (by a long way) so I'm going to have to go shopping for a replacement.
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I've never had a hard disk go bad on me ... until now. A few moments ago I was sitting quite happily pondering over some code when I heard a lound crunching noise and something going tap, tap, tap on my second pc (fortunately not the one I do development on). I looked over to see lots of filesystem errors on the console and now the thing won't boot telling me that the HD is duff. Aargh, at least I have my backups. Moral of the story - you may think your HD won't go bad, but eventually it will so make sure you keep up to date backups.
I had it happen to me twice in 6 months on a Compaq Evo laptop. I only mention the name of the computer manufacturer because I know of 2 other guys who had the same thing happen on the same type of machine. Very frustrating, but I was relatively fortunate with recent backups. Now I have backup software that copies all my files onto another computer HD and emails me with completion status every night. One of the few disadvantages of working out of your home, you have to be your own IT support. BTW It was this really sick sounding growl on my computer ..... Uptight Ex-Military Republican married to a Commie Lib - How weird is that?
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I had it happen to me twice in 6 months on a Compaq Evo laptop. I only mention the name of the computer manufacturer because I know of 2 other guys who had the same thing happen on the same type of machine. Very frustrating, but I was relatively fortunate with recent backups. Now I have backup software that copies all my files onto another computer HD and emails me with completion status every night. One of the few disadvantages of working out of your home, you have to be your own IT support. BTW It was this really sick sounding growl on my computer ..... Uptight Ex-Military Republican married to a Commie Lib - How weird is that?
Doug Goulden wrote: I had it happen to me twice in 6 months Thats unlucky...:~ Doug Goulden wrote: One of the few disadvantages of working out of your home, you have to be your own IT support. Some would say that was an advantage;) Fortunately all I lost was todays emails and 99% of those were spam.
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I've never had a hard disk go bad on me ... until now. A few moments ago I was sitting quite happily pondering over some code when I heard a lound crunching noise and something going tap, tap, tap on my second pc (fortunately not the one I do development on). I looked over to see lots of filesystem errors on the console and now the thing won't boot telling me that the HD is duff. Aargh, at least I have my backups. Moral of the story - you may think your HD won't go bad, but eventually it will so make sure you keep up to date backups.
I've had two disks die over the last 5 years. The first was an 8GB Seagate drive (repaired under warranty) and more recently a year old Hitachi 40GB notebook drive fitted to a Sony Vaio laptop died (prior to which it had indicated a SMART device failure). Fortunately, I'm very careful about backups, and I didn't lose any data in either case. :cool: Even better, after the drive in the Vaio died I was just forced to buy a new Acer Travelmate 8006LMi (2GHz Pentium M, DVD+/-RW, 80GB disk, wi-fi). When the disk from the Vaio returns from warranty repair, it's becoming a test machine... :-D Anna :rose: Riverblade Ltd - Software Consultancy Services Anna's Place | Tears and Laughter "Be yourself - not what others think you should be" - Marcia Graesch "Anna's just a sexy-looking lesbian tart" - A friend, trying to wind me up. It didn't work.
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I've never had a hard disk go bad on me ... until now. A few moments ago I was sitting quite happily pondering over some code when I heard a lound crunching noise and something going tap, tap, tap on my second pc (fortunately not the one I do development on). I looked over to see lots of filesystem errors on the console and now the thing won't boot telling me that the HD is duff. Aargh, at least I have my backups. Moral of the story - you may think your HD won't go bad, but eventually it will so make sure you keep up to date backups.
I had my Maxtor 80gb 8mb cache drive die on me two days before I moved into school. I was pretty pissed off. I ended up ordering a RAID card, R-Undelete NTFS, and a new WD drive. I ended up recovering most of the files from the maxtor with the R-Undelete utility (even after the system couldn't determine the filesystem of the drive) and I send it back to maxtor. I now have two 80gb drives with 8mb cache on a raid 1 mirroring. I heard clicking sounds the other night and it turned out to be a power issue this time. Luckily. I would highly recommend RAID 0 to you, I got a cheap raid 1/0 card from ebay (Silicon Imaging 0680 for something like $14) -Steven Hicks
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I've never had a hard disk go bad on me ... until now. A few moments ago I was sitting quite happily pondering over some code when I heard a lound crunching noise and something going tap, tap, tap on my second pc (fortunately not the one I do development on). I looked over to see lots of filesystem errors on the console and now the thing won't boot telling me that the HD is duff. Aargh, at least I have my backups. Moral of the story - you may think your HD won't go bad, but eventually it will so make sure you keep up to date backups.
Been there; I feel your pain. I owned one of the infamous IBM DeathStar drives. It developed a slow, creeping failure. I would get file system errors. Reformat, reinstall. Everything would be fine for anywhere from a few days to a month or more, but then the problem would repeat itself. About the time the class action suit against IBM was going into high gear, I got them to replace the drive under warranty (even though the warranty had expired several months before). During the eight weeks it took IBM to ship me a replacement drive, I replaced it with a Western Digital. The warranty replacement drive is currently used for O/S experiments, temporary files (video editing), and things like that; nothing critical goes on that drive.
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I've had two disks die over the last 5 years. The first was an 8GB Seagate drive (repaired under warranty) and more recently a year old Hitachi 40GB notebook drive fitted to a Sony Vaio laptop died (prior to which it had indicated a SMART device failure). Fortunately, I'm very careful about backups, and I didn't lose any data in either case. :cool: Even better, after the drive in the Vaio died I was just forced to buy a new Acer Travelmate 8006LMi (2GHz Pentium M, DVD+/-RW, 80GB disk, wi-fi). When the disk from the Vaio returns from warranty repair, it's becoming a test machine... :-D Anna :rose: Riverblade Ltd - Software Consultancy Services Anna's Place | Tears and Laughter "Be yourself - not what others think you should be" - Marcia Graesch "Anna's just a sexy-looking lesbian tart" - A friend, trying to wind me up. It didn't work.
Anna-Jayne Metcalfe wrote: prior to which it had indicated a SMART device fai I think SMART is one of the best systems that has been created, it almost predicts when someone is going to take an axe to their box. "Great Functionality" Regardz Colin J Davies The most LinkedIn CPian (that I know of anyhow) :-)
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I had my Maxtor 80gb 8mb cache drive die on me two days before I moved into school. I was pretty pissed off. I ended up ordering a RAID card, R-Undelete NTFS, and a new WD drive. I ended up recovering most of the files from the maxtor with the R-Undelete utility (even after the system couldn't determine the filesystem of the drive) and I send it back to maxtor. I now have two 80gb drives with 8mb cache on a raid 1 mirroring. I heard clicking sounds the other night and it turned out to be a power issue this time. Luckily. I would highly recommend RAID 0 to you, I got a cheap raid 1/0 card from ebay (Silicon Imaging 0680 for something like $14) -Steven Hicks
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(Steven Hicks)n+1 wrote: I would highly recommend RAID 0 to you Uh, RAID 0 is striping across disks - partitioning to get better read and write performance. It does nothing for reliability - in fact it makes it worse since if you lose one disk you lose the whole volume. RAID 1 is mirroring - each drive has a complete copy of the volume. Reads can actually be faster than each bare drive (since the controller can read from either disk) but writes typically take twice as long since the data needs to be written to both drives. Anyway, RAID only protects you against drive failures. It does nothing for data corruption or accidental deletion. You should still back up a RAID array. I've personally never had a drive failure. Most of my drives have been Western Digital but I've had at least one Seagate and my current is a Hitachi DeskStar - while there were some problems with one DeskStar series newer ones seem to be more reliable. Maxtors, on the other hand, I've seen and heard about many failures on, on many different generations of drive. Stability. What an interesting concept. -- Chris Maunder
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(Steven Hicks)n+1 wrote: I would highly recommend RAID 0 to you Uh, RAID 0 is striping across disks - partitioning to get better read and write performance. It does nothing for reliability - in fact it makes it worse since if you lose one disk you lose the whole volume. RAID 1 is mirroring - each drive has a complete copy of the volume. Reads can actually be faster than each bare drive (since the controller can read from either disk) but writes typically take twice as long since the data needs to be written to both drives. Anyway, RAID only protects you against drive failures. It does nothing for data corruption or accidental deletion. You should still back up a RAID array. I've personally never had a drive failure. Most of my drives have been Western Digital but I've had at least one Seagate and my current is a Hitachi DeskStar - while there were some problems with one DeskStar series newer ones seem to be more reliable. Maxtors, on the other hand, I've seen and heard about many failures on, on many different generations of drive. Stability. What an interesting concept. -- Chris Maunder
I meant RAID1 Mirroring -Steven Hicks
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(Steven Hicks)n+1 wrote: I would highly recommend RAID 0 to you Uh, RAID 0 is striping across disks - partitioning to get better read and write performance. It does nothing for reliability - in fact it makes it worse since if you lose one disk you lose the whole volume. RAID 1 is mirroring - each drive has a complete copy of the volume. Reads can actually be faster than each bare drive (since the controller can read from either disk) but writes typically take twice as long since the data needs to be written to both drives. Anyway, RAID only protects you against drive failures. It does nothing for data corruption or accidental deletion. You should still back up a RAID array. I've personally never had a drive failure. Most of my drives have been Western Digital but I've had at least one Seagate and my current is a Hitachi DeskStar - while there were some problems with one DeskStar series newer ones seem to be more reliable. Maxtors, on the other hand, I've seen and heard about many failures on, on many different generations of drive. Stability. What an interesting concept. -- Chris Maunder
Mike Dimmick wrote: Reads can actually be faster than each bare drive (since the controller can read from either disk) They are generally faster. In fact, they're close to twice as fast since reads can be parallelized. One disk reads sectors 1 through 10, the other disk reads sectors 11 through 20, and so on. Mike Dimmick wrote: but writes typically take twice as long since the data needs to be written to both drives No. There's a very small overhead for writes, but hardly noticeable. Writes are done in parallell. -- I got nasty habits. I take tea at three. -- Mick Jagger I blog too now[^]
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Anna-Jayne Metcalfe wrote: prior to which it had indicated a SMART device fai I think SMART is one of the best systems that has been created, it almost predicts when someone is going to take an axe to their box. "Great Functionality" Regardz Colin J Davies The most LinkedIn CPian (that I know of anyhow) :-)
It sure does. I certainly felt like doing exactly that to my Sony laptop when I saw that message... :rolleyes: Anna :rose: Riverblade Ltd - Software Consultancy Services Anna's Place | Tears and Laughter "Be yourself - not what others think you should be" - Marcia Graesch "Anna's just a sexy-looking lesbian tart" - A friend, trying to wind me up. It didn't work.