Disaster
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This was, of coarse, bound to happen. I have an update for you, but it's not a good one for me. It's 12:17 AM where I am right now, somewhere just outside of Los Angeles. Crystal calls me a little while ago. The only problem being is that she's moving back to San Francisco effective Thursday because of a dying family member she is close to. So I guess my problem is solved. I'm definitely going to tell her how I feel about her before she leaves. But, it seems, my fortay with love had a few bugs and a couple of syntax errors. My love life IQ is one semicolin short of a complete program, and no matter how hard I try it won't compile unless I add that one simple symbol, but the key's stuck and I'm not smart enough to cut and paste it from a notepad document. And it seems when it comes to love for me I've got a frozen program, and no matter how many times I press "Control Alt Delete" Windows 98 won't work and what I really need to do is minimize everything and open pview95.exe. I've decided I should stick with that I know - programming - and forget this futile flirtation with romantic intrigue. If it counts for anything I am going to try and kiss her before she leaves. I really liked Crystal, a lot more than I liked any other girl, ever. Running your own business can be a lonely enterprise. Working alone, in a damp office with only the radiation eminating from the computer monitor to keep you comfort, can get lonely. Well, at least I have you guys. You seem to care. And that honestly counts for something.
Adam Arthur wrote: I've decided I should stick with that I know - programming - and forget this futile flirtation with romantic intrigue. Well now, that sounds just like you got the right attitude to really fall in love ;) I remember getting to that point just before finishing university. I said to myself: heck, no time for bullshit, get to work on your master degree. I put all girly stuff aside and got to work and I didn't even notice when it got me, and seriously this time. Next thing I know I am 5203 miles away from home setting up the family... ;) It's kinda like fishing - it works when you don't pay too much attention to it... :cool:
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This was, of coarse, bound to happen. I have an update for you, but it's not a good one for me. It's 12:17 AM where I am right now, somewhere just outside of Los Angeles. Crystal calls me a little while ago. The only problem being is that she's moving back to San Francisco effective Thursday because of a dying family member she is close to. So I guess my problem is solved. I'm definitely going to tell her how I feel about her before she leaves. But, it seems, my fortay with love had a few bugs and a couple of syntax errors. My love life IQ is one semicolin short of a complete program, and no matter how hard I try it won't compile unless I add that one simple symbol, but the key's stuck and I'm not smart enough to cut and paste it from a notepad document. And it seems when it comes to love for me I've got a frozen program, and no matter how many times I press "Control Alt Delete" Windows 98 won't work and what I really need to do is minimize everything and open pview95.exe. I've decided I should stick with that I know - programming - and forget this futile flirtation with romantic intrigue. If it counts for anything I am going to try and kiss her before she leaves. I really liked Crystal, a lot more than I liked any other girl, ever. Running your own business can be a lonely enterprise. Working alone, in a damp office with only the radiation eminating from the computer monitor to keep you comfort, can get lonely. Well, at least I have you guys. You seem to care. And that honestly counts for something.
Not a disaster Adam. Not even near it. Anyway, go for that final fling. If you succeed, that's good, if you don't, well nothing lost huh? Good Luck! Nish Sonork ID 100.9786 voidmain www.busterboy.org If you don't find me on CP, I'll be at Bob's HungOut
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This was, of coarse, bound to happen. I have an update for you, but it's not a good one for me. It's 12:17 AM where I am right now, somewhere just outside of Los Angeles. Crystal calls me a little while ago. The only problem being is that she's moving back to San Francisco effective Thursday because of a dying family member she is close to. So I guess my problem is solved. I'm definitely going to tell her how I feel about her before she leaves. But, it seems, my fortay with love had a few bugs and a couple of syntax errors. My love life IQ is one semicolin short of a complete program, and no matter how hard I try it won't compile unless I add that one simple symbol, but the key's stuck and I'm not smart enough to cut and paste it from a notepad document. And it seems when it comes to love for me I've got a frozen program, and no matter how many times I press "Control Alt Delete" Windows 98 won't work and what I really need to do is minimize everything and open pview95.exe. I've decided I should stick with that I know - programming - and forget this futile flirtation with romantic intrigue. If it counts for anything I am going to try and kiss her before she leaves. I really liked Crystal, a lot more than I liked any other girl, ever. Running your own business can be a lonely enterprise. Working alone, in a damp office with only the radiation eminating from the computer monitor to keep you comfort, can get lonely. Well, at least I have you guys. You seem to care. And that honestly counts for something.
Adam Arthur wrote: So I guess my problem is solved. I'm definitely going to tell her how I feel about her before she leaves. Go for it, Adam, and don't hold back or you'll regret it. Make the gesture as romantic and poetic as possible - they love that. Adam Arthur wrote: My love life IQ is one semicolin short of a complete program, and no matter how hard I try it won't compile unless I add that one simple symbol, but the key's stuck and I'm not smart enough to cut and paste it from a notepad document. And it seems when it comes to love for me I've got a frozen program, and no matter how many times I press "Control Alt Delete" Windows 98 won't work and what I really need to do is minimize everything and open pview95.exe. Be sure to let her know you like her more than a hardcore msvc++ debugging session. Then she'll be impressed. Adam Arthur wrote: I really liked Crystal, a lot more than I liked any other girl, ever. Running your own business can be a lonely enterprise. Working alone, in a damp office with only the radiation eminating from the computer monitor to keep you comfort, can get lonely. Well, at least I have you guys. You seem to care. And that honestly counts for something. Now that was a moving statement! Anyway, we're not just good for technical advice you know, us Win32 developers. You wouldn't get love advice from a unix developer, would you? ;) Simon Nobody does chicken like MFC Sonork ID 100.10024
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This was, of coarse, bound to happen. I have an update for you, but it's not a good one for me. It's 12:17 AM where I am right now, somewhere just outside of Los Angeles. Crystal calls me a little while ago. The only problem being is that she's moving back to San Francisco effective Thursday because of a dying family member she is close to. So I guess my problem is solved. I'm definitely going to tell her how I feel about her before she leaves. But, it seems, my fortay with love had a few bugs and a couple of syntax errors. My love life IQ is one semicolin short of a complete program, and no matter how hard I try it won't compile unless I add that one simple symbol, but the key's stuck and I'm not smart enough to cut and paste it from a notepad document. And it seems when it comes to love for me I've got a frozen program, and no matter how many times I press "Control Alt Delete" Windows 98 won't work and what I really need to do is minimize everything and open pview95.exe. I've decided I should stick with that I know - programming - and forget this futile flirtation with romantic intrigue. If it counts for anything I am going to try and kiss her before she leaves. I really liked Crystal, a lot more than I liked any other girl, ever. Running your own business can be a lonely enterprise. Working alone, in a damp office with only the radiation eminating from the computer monitor to keep you comfort, can get lonely. Well, at least I have you guys. You seem to care. And that honestly counts for something.
Ya know, I can handle the daily "What's your favorite xxxxxx" from Nish (although that's wearing a little thin too), but I'm not the slightest bit interested in your love life. I'm sure a lot of guys have liked Crystal, but we haven't heard from them yet, and I personally don't care that we ever do. If you wanna whine to someone about this crap, go find a priest or call your mother. Some folks may not agree with what I've just said, and they might even say that I'm being a complete prick, but I'm not here to be a freakin politician. "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001
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This was, of coarse, bound to happen. I have an update for you, but it's not a good one for me. It's 12:17 AM where I am right now, somewhere just outside of Los Angeles. Crystal calls me a little while ago. The only problem being is that she's moving back to San Francisco effective Thursday because of a dying family member she is close to. So I guess my problem is solved. I'm definitely going to tell her how I feel about her before she leaves. But, it seems, my fortay with love had a few bugs and a couple of syntax errors. My love life IQ is one semicolin short of a complete program, and no matter how hard I try it won't compile unless I add that one simple symbol, but the key's stuck and I'm not smart enough to cut and paste it from a notepad document. And it seems when it comes to love for me I've got a frozen program, and no matter how many times I press "Control Alt Delete" Windows 98 won't work and what I really need to do is minimize everything and open pview95.exe. I've decided I should stick with that I know - programming - and forget this futile flirtation with romantic intrigue. If it counts for anything I am going to try and kiss her before she leaves. I really liked Crystal, a lot more than I liked any other girl, ever. Running your own business can be a lonely enterprise. Working alone, in a damp office with only the radiation eminating from the computer monitor to keep you comfort, can get lonely. Well, at least I have you guys. You seem to care. And that honestly counts for something.
Adam Arthur wrote: It's 12:17 AM where I am right now, somewhere just outside of Los Angeles. Crystal calls me a little while ago. The only problem being is that she's moving back to San Francisco effective Thursday because of a dying family member she is close to. Is she coming back after the person dies ? Is that a heartless question ? If she's going to be going through a tough time losing a family member I'd suggest it's unlikely that she'd want to consider a new relationship on top of it all, but that she's probably in need of some good, supportive friends. As I recall she gave you her number first, and calls you often, so this is a time to be there for *her* in *her* situation, not to back away because the odds of a relationship right now have diminished. Adam Arthur wrote: I've decided I should stick with that I know - programming - and forget this futile flirtation with romantic intrigue It's probably worth pointing out that it's the same for pretty much everyone, the point is it only has to go right once, and you've found a partner for life. But getting to that point pretty much bites the big one. Christian I have come to clean zee pooollll. - Michael Martin Dec 30, 2001
Sonork ID 100.10002:MeanManOz
I live in Bob's HungOut now
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This was, of coarse, bound to happen. I have an update for you, but it's not a good one for me. It's 12:17 AM where I am right now, somewhere just outside of Los Angeles. Crystal calls me a little while ago. The only problem being is that she's moving back to San Francisco effective Thursday because of a dying family member she is close to. So I guess my problem is solved. I'm definitely going to tell her how I feel about her before she leaves. But, it seems, my fortay with love had a few bugs and a couple of syntax errors. My love life IQ is one semicolin short of a complete program, and no matter how hard I try it won't compile unless I add that one simple symbol, but the key's stuck and I'm not smart enough to cut and paste it from a notepad document. And it seems when it comes to love for me I've got a frozen program, and no matter how many times I press "Control Alt Delete" Windows 98 won't work and what I really need to do is minimize everything and open pview95.exe. I've decided I should stick with that I know - programming - and forget this futile flirtation with romantic intrigue. If it counts for anything I am going to try and kiss her before she leaves. I really liked Crystal, a lot more than I liked any other girl, ever. Running your own business can be a lonely enterprise. Working alone, in a damp office with only the radiation eminating from the computer monitor to keep you comfort, can get lonely. Well, at least I have you guys. You seem to care. And that honestly counts for something.
I'm not sure disaster is the right word. My geography might not be very good but surely LA and SF are pretty close together. Not more than a day's drive away at worst. There is a very corny quote about distance not keeping good friends apart. You have her phone number, you have her address? It just means that you won't see her everyday. Don't give up now, but also don't rush things at the last minute. Real life isn't like the movies. Michael :-)
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Adam Arthur wrote: So I guess my problem is solved. I'm definitely going to tell her how I feel about her before she leaves. Go for it, Adam, and don't hold back or you'll regret it. Make the gesture as romantic and poetic as possible - they love that. Adam Arthur wrote: My love life IQ is one semicolin short of a complete program, and no matter how hard I try it won't compile unless I add that one simple symbol, but the key's stuck and I'm not smart enough to cut and paste it from a notepad document. And it seems when it comes to love for me I've got a frozen program, and no matter how many times I press "Control Alt Delete" Windows 98 won't work and what I really need to do is minimize everything and open pview95.exe. Be sure to let her know you like her more than a hardcore msvc++ debugging session. Then she'll be impressed. Adam Arthur wrote: I really liked Crystal, a lot more than I liked any other girl, ever. Running your own business can be a lonely enterprise. Working alone, in a damp office with only the radiation eminating from the computer monitor to keep you comfort, can get lonely. Well, at least I have you guys. You seem to care. And that honestly counts for something. Now that was a moving statement! Anyway, we're not just good for technical advice you know, us Win32 developers. You wouldn't get love advice from a unix developer, would you? ;) Simon Nobody does chicken like MFC Sonork ID 100.10024
Simon Walton wrote: You wouldn't get love advice from a unix developer, would you? Romantic advice from programmers: UNIX programmer: Dude, just grep her and see if she likes it Linux programmer: Free love man! free love! Invite her to an open source orgy man. Free love! Windows programmer: Good, sound, but capitalistic based love advice. The above tells me that Linux's time was back in the 60's when free love transcended more than just computers :-D regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass Cape Town, South Africa "The greatest thing you will ever learn is to love, and be loved in return" - Moulin Rouge Martin Marvinski wrote: Unfortunatly Deep Throat isn't my cup of tea Do you Sonork? I do! 100.9903 Stormfront
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This was, of coarse, bound to happen. I have an update for you, but it's not a good one for me. It's 12:17 AM where I am right now, somewhere just outside of Los Angeles. Crystal calls me a little while ago. The only problem being is that she's moving back to San Francisco effective Thursday because of a dying family member she is close to. So I guess my problem is solved. I'm definitely going to tell her how I feel about her before she leaves. But, it seems, my fortay with love had a few bugs and a couple of syntax errors. My love life IQ is one semicolin short of a complete program, and no matter how hard I try it won't compile unless I add that one simple symbol, but the key's stuck and I'm not smart enough to cut and paste it from a notepad document. And it seems when it comes to love for me I've got a frozen program, and no matter how many times I press "Control Alt Delete" Windows 98 won't work and what I really need to do is minimize everything and open pview95.exe. I've decided I should stick with that I know - programming - and forget this futile flirtation with romantic intrigue. If it counts for anything I am going to try and kiss her before she leaves. I really liked Crystal, a lot more than I liked any other girl, ever. Running your own business can be a lonely enterprise. Working alone, in a damp office with only the radiation eminating from the computer monitor to keep you comfort, can get lonely. Well, at least I have you guys. You seem to care. And that honestly counts for something.
I could start spouting some crap about how now is the WORST time to confront her with your love as she is in a vulnerable and "assailable" position. I could continue by saying that you are being very unfair to launch this attack just as she is about to leave, putting her in a huge dilemna which just cracks her psyche in twain. I could say all of that, but I won't... Adam Arthur wrote: it counts for anything I am going to try and kiss her before she leaves. Hey, my only real advice is don't make a fool out of yourself by stumbling into a force kiss with her. Get her new number, get her address, buy some train tickets to LA. Romance her from affair and visit her. It will be a lot harder but she will notice it a lot more as you have to make a greater effort. Adam Arthur wrote: Well, at least I have you guys. You seem to care. And that honestly counts for something. Ignore John, he is jealous we aren't focusing on him. *pokes John* :-D regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass Cape Town, South Africa "The greatest thing you will ever learn is to love, and be loved in return" - Moulin Rouge Martin Marvinski wrote: Unfortunatly Deep Throat isn't my cup of tea Do you Sonork? I do! 100.9903 Stormfront
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This was, of coarse, bound to happen. I have an update for you, but it's not a good one for me. It's 12:17 AM where I am right now, somewhere just outside of Los Angeles. Crystal calls me a little while ago. The only problem being is that she's moving back to San Francisco effective Thursday because of a dying family member she is close to. So I guess my problem is solved. I'm definitely going to tell her how I feel about her before she leaves. But, it seems, my fortay with love had a few bugs and a couple of syntax errors. My love life IQ is one semicolin short of a complete program, and no matter how hard I try it won't compile unless I add that one simple symbol, but the key's stuck and I'm not smart enough to cut and paste it from a notepad document. And it seems when it comes to love for me I've got a frozen program, and no matter how many times I press "Control Alt Delete" Windows 98 won't work and what I really need to do is minimize everything and open pview95.exe. I've decided I should stick with that I know - programming - and forget this futile flirtation with romantic intrigue. If it counts for anything I am going to try and kiss her before she leaves. I really liked Crystal, a lot more than I liked any other girl, ever. Running your own business can be a lonely enterprise. Working alone, in a damp office with only the radiation eminating from the computer monitor to keep you comfort, can get lonely. Well, at least I have you guys. You seem to care. And that honestly counts for something.
Get a grip, Adam! Your timing is off, so what? The lady has a family crisis on her hands, and all you're worried about is how inconvenient it is for you! That doesn't exactly demonstrate how much you care for her, does it? You're close enough for weekend visits, so show some support for her in what has to be a rotten time for her. By all means, let her know how you feel for her, but however the chips may fall, plan to visit her, and show some concern for her situation. Be there for her, put her needs a bit ahead of your own, and you might be surprised where it leads in the long run:-D Besides, SF is a whole lot nicer place to visit than LA. Just don't be dropping the ol' wallet...
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This was, of coarse, bound to happen. I have an update for you, but it's not a good one for me. It's 12:17 AM where I am right now, somewhere just outside of Los Angeles. Crystal calls me a little while ago. The only problem being is that she's moving back to San Francisco effective Thursday because of a dying family member she is close to. So I guess my problem is solved. I'm definitely going to tell her how I feel about her before she leaves. But, it seems, my fortay with love had a few bugs and a couple of syntax errors. My love life IQ is one semicolin short of a complete program, and no matter how hard I try it won't compile unless I add that one simple symbol, but the key's stuck and I'm not smart enough to cut and paste it from a notepad document. And it seems when it comes to love for me I've got a frozen program, and no matter how many times I press "Control Alt Delete" Windows 98 won't work and what I really need to do is minimize everything and open pview95.exe. I've decided I should stick with that I know - programming - and forget this futile flirtation with romantic intrigue. If it counts for anything I am going to try and kiss her before she leaves. I really liked Crystal, a lot more than I liked any other girl, ever. Running your own business can be a lonely enterprise. Working alone, in a damp office with only the radiation eminating from the computer monitor to keep you comfort, can get lonely. Well, at least I have you guys. You seem to care. And that honestly counts for something.
Just like everyone (pricks don't count) already said. It's not a disaster. It's just some minor difficulties. Life almost never goes as it was planned and so your ability to adapt to situation at hand will decide your ability to achieve your goals. Don't give up. A lot of people have long distance relationships at this day and age. Sometimes it works even better than being next to each other every day.
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Just like everyone (pricks don't count) already said. It's not a disaster. It's just some minor difficulties. Life almost never goes as it was planned and so your ability to adapt to situation at hand will decide your ability to achieve your goals. Don't give up. A lot of people have long distance relationships at this day and age. Sometimes it works even better than being next to each other every day.
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But pricks *do* count... :) "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001
Only when you want to count them... ;P
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But pricks *do* count... :) "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001
On their fingers, generally:-D
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Ya know, I can handle the daily "What's your favorite xxxxxx" from Nish (although that's wearing a little thin too), but I'm not the slightest bit interested in your love life. I'm sure a lot of guys have liked Crystal, but we haven't heard from them yet, and I personally don't care that we ever do. If you wanna whine to someone about this crap, go find a priest or call your mother. Some folks may not agree with what I've just said, and they might even say that I'm being a complete prick, but I'm not here to be a freakin politician. "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001
John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote: Ya know, I can handle the daily "What's your favorite xxxxxx" from Nish (although that's wearing a little thin too), ???? When did I ever ask someone what their favorite whatever was???? Nish p.s. you dont mean that monitor thing, do you? Sonork ID 100.9786 voidmain www.busterboy.org If you don't find me on CP, I'll be at Bob's HungOut
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But pricks *do* count... :) "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001
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This was, of coarse, bound to happen. I have an update for you, but it's not a good one for me. It's 12:17 AM where I am right now, somewhere just outside of Los Angeles. Crystal calls me a little while ago. The only problem being is that she's moving back to San Francisco effective Thursday because of a dying family member she is close to. So I guess my problem is solved. I'm definitely going to tell her how I feel about her before she leaves. But, it seems, my fortay with love had a few bugs and a couple of syntax errors. My love life IQ is one semicolin short of a complete program, and no matter how hard I try it won't compile unless I add that one simple symbol, but the key's stuck and I'm not smart enough to cut and paste it from a notepad document. And it seems when it comes to love for me I've got a frozen program, and no matter how many times I press "Control Alt Delete" Windows 98 won't work and what I really need to do is minimize everything and open pview95.exe. I've decided I should stick with that I know - programming - and forget this futile flirtation with romantic intrigue. If it counts for anything I am going to try and kiss her before she leaves. I really liked Crystal, a lot more than I liked any other girl, ever. Running your own business can be a lonely enterprise. Working alone, in a damp office with only the radiation eminating from the computer monitor to keep you comfort, can get lonely. Well, at least I have you guys. You seem to care. And that honestly counts for something.
Bad Idea. Telling her *now* when she's under external emotional pressure will only hurt. She knows she has to cope with the death of a family member, which is at the moment more important than anything else. Just now being there for her, with her, without requesting a response is much better an idea. Trying to kiss her is a bad idea in around 90% of all instances of this scenario.
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Ya know, I can handle the daily "What's your favorite xxxxxx" from Nish (although that's wearing a little thin too), but I'm not the slightest bit interested in your love life. I'm sure a lot of guys have liked Crystal, but we haven't heard from them yet, and I personally don't care that we ever do. If you wanna whine to someone about this crap, go find a priest or call your mother. Some folks may not agree with what I've just said, and they might even say that I'm being a complete prick, but I'm not here to be a freakin politician. "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001
John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote: but I'm not here to be a freakin politician :( And I was hoping to see you in the White House some day... I vote pro drink :beer:
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John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote: Ya know, I can handle the daily "What's your favorite xxxxxx" from Nish (although that's wearing a little thin too), ???? When did I ever ask someone what their favorite whatever was???? Nish p.s. you dont mean that monitor thing, do you? Sonork ID 100.9786 voidmain www.busterboy.org If you don't find me on CP, I'll be at Bob's HungOut
Nish [BusterBoy] wrote: When did I ever ask someone what their favorite whatever was???? lol, Nish, leave it. John just yanked that off the top of his head, we all know he does not mean much by it. I thought you learnt from the last Nish vs. John battle? Don't pull his teeth :-D regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass Cape Town, South Africa "The greatest thing you will ever learn is to love, and be loved in return" - Moulin Rouge Martin Marvinski wrote: Unfortunatly Deep Throat isn't my cup of tea Do you Sonork? I do! 100.9903 Stormfront
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This was, of coarse, bound to happen. I have an update for you, but it's not a good one for me. It's 12:17 AM where I am right now, somewhere just outside of Los Angeles. Crystal calls me a little while ago. The only problem being is that she's moving back to San Francisco effective Thursday because of a dying family member she is close to. So I guess my problem is solved. I'm definitely going to tell her how I feel about her before she leaves. But, it seems, my fortay with love had a few bugs and a couple of syntax errors. My love life IQ is one semicolin short of a complete program, and no matter how hard I try it won't compile unless I add that one simple symbol, but the key's stuck and I'm not smart enough to cut and paste it from a notepad document. And it seems when it comes to love for me I've got a frozen program, and no matter how many times I press "Control Alt Delete" Windows 98 won't work and what I really need to do is minimize everything and open pview95.exe. I've decided I should stick with that I know - programming - and forget this futile flirtation with romantic intrigue. If it counts for anything I am going to try and kiss her before she leaves. I really liked Crystal, a lot more than I liked any other girl, ever. Running your own business can be a lonely enterprise. Working alone, in a damp office with only the radiation eminating from the computer monitor to keep you comfort, can get lonely. Well, at least I have you guys. You seem to care. And that honestly counts for something.
I had a long distance relationship from San Francisco to San Diego. That's an hour and a half more driver. I was great! Then I talked him into moving in with me. The long distance relationship was a lot better. Enjoy it! Cathy Life's uncertain, have dessert first!
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I had a long distance relationship from San Francisco to San Diego. That's an hour and a half more driver. I was great! Then I talked him into moving in with me. The long distance relationship was a lot better. Enjoy it! Cathy Life's uncertain, have dessert first!
Cathy wrote: had a long distance relationship Cathy wrote: That's an hour and a half more drive Not to be raining on a bad situation but is that considered a long distance relationship in America? My word! I regulary, two, three times a week, visited a friend who lived two hours from me, and we were just friends, nothing more. For a partner, lover, girlfriend I would have done double that at least twice a week. I would consider my first relationship lond distance. She lived in northern Namibia and I lived in southern South Africa, Cape Town. That is a 24 hour drive. regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass Cape Town, South Africa "The greatest thing you will ever learn is to love, and be loved in return" - Moulin Rouge Martin Marvinski wrote: Unfortunatly Deep Throat isn't my cup of tea Do you Sonork? I do! 100.9903 Stormfront