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    The Anonimator
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    OK, I'm posting this under an 'anonymous' account, because I don't know who from my work reads this. I am a software developer, currently on a large project where I have little to no responsibility, I just do what I'm told. I've done stuff in the past where I was in charge of a project, and I've done my own side work where I handled all client meetings, design, everything. I've gone for another job, with a company that is significantly smaller. The job they are offering me would involve all those things, client meetings, design, planning, you name it. I'm rapt about that, but the issues are: 1. This job is only paying $3000 more than I get now, for a lot more work. The main point is that I'll not have time to pursue as much outside work as I have been, so my income will drop 2. The company I am with is visibly a major player, my job security will definately drop also. I am not a recent graduate, I have a wife and kids to support. So I'd not be moving for the money, but if it works out it could be great for my career. What would you do ?

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      OK, I'm posting this under an 'anonymous' account, because I don't know who from my work reads this. I am a software developer, currently on a large project where I have little to no responsibility, I just do what I'm told. I've done stuff in the past where I was in charge of a project, and I've done my own side work where I handled all client meetings, design, everything. I've gone for another job, with a company that is significantly smaller. The job they are offering me would involve all those things, client meetings, design, planning, you name it. I'm rapt about that, but the issues are: 1. This job is only paying $3000 more than I get now, for a lot more work. The main point is that I'll not have time to pursue as much outside work as I have been, so my income will drop 2. The company I am with is visibly a major player, my job security will definately drop also. I am not a recent graduate, I have a wife and kids to support. So I'd not be moving for the money, but if it works out it could be great for my career. What would you do ?

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      Roger Wright
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      It's obviously very important to you to be involved in the whole project, cradle to grave. Me, too. Job satisfaction is far more important, in my not-very-humble opinion, than money or prestige. I'm rejoicing now for a new job that pays half what I made when I got laid off 13 years ago, and it's the best job I've had in all that time. It has the potential to be even more satisfying than what I was doing when I was making the big bucks. I'm doing what I love; though because of all the financial loss I've suffered I've had more time than you to adjust to privation, I've learned that I can do well enough with less as long as I can look forward to going to work the next day. I do now, and I haven't looked forward to a day at work in 20 years. Frankly, managing the development of nuclear missile systems was not very much fun, for all the money and respect it earned me. Project Engineer in a company of 4,000 sounds great and pays a hell of a lot more, but Technical Support Specialist in a company of 10 empolyees is a lot more fun. Someone once said, "Do what you love, and the money will follow." Maybe that's true - it hasn't happenned for me. But I say, "Do what you love." Period. "If it's Snowbird season, why can't we shoot them?" - Overheard in a bar in Bullhead City

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        OK, I'm posting this under an 'anonymous' account, because I don't know who from my work reads this. I am a software developer, currently on a large project where I have little to no responsibility, I just do what I'm told. I've done stuff in the past where I was in charge of a project, and I've done my own side work where I handled all client meetings, design, everything. I've gone for another job, with a company that is significantly smaller. The job they are offering me would involve all those things, client meetings, design, planning, you name it. I'm rapt about that, but the issues are: 1. This job is only paying $3000 more than I get now, for a lot more work. The main point is that I'll not have time to pursue as much outside work as I have been, so my income will drop 2. The company I am with is visibly a major player, my job security will definately drop also. I am not a recent graduate, I have a wife and kids to support. So I'd not be moving for the money, but if it works out it could be great for my career. What would you do ?

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        first of all, never do a job for the money. Second: you can always try to talk with your manager and explain what you want to do (oh, but don't mention the other job opportunity :-) ) If you see you can't get anywhere in the function where you are now: move. Good luck! "If I don't see you in this world, I'll see you in the next one... and don't be late." ~ Jimi Hendrix

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          OK, I'm posting this under an 'anonymous' account, because I don't know who from my work reads this. I am a software developer, currently on a large project where I have little to no responsibility, I just do what I'm told. I've done stuff in the past where I was in charge of a project, and I've done my own side work where I handled all client meetings, design, everything. I've gone for another job, with a company that is significantly smaller. The job they are offering me would involve all those things, client meetings, design, planning, you name it. I'm rapt about that, but the issues are: 1. This job is only paying $3000 more than I get now, for a lot more work. The main point is that I'll not have time to pursue as much outside work as I have been, so my income will drop 2. The company I am with is visibly a major player, my job security will definately drop also. I am not a recent graduate, I have a wife and kids to support. So I'd not be moving for the money, but if it works out it could be great for my career. What would you do ?

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          Antony M Kancidrowski
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          I say, "Do whatever your heart says!". Personnally speaking, I have taken a pay cut in to past in order to do just this. Happiness in you job is paramount. You spend a hell of a lot of time at work to be unhappy. Ant. I'm hard, yet soft.
          I'm coloured, yet clear.
          I'm fruity and sweet.
          I'm jelly, what am I? Muse on it further, I shall return!
          - David Walliams (Little Britain)

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            OK, I'm posting this under an 'anonymous' account, because I don't know who from my work reads this. I am a software developer, currently on a large project where I have little to no responsibility, I just do what I'm told. I've done stuff in the past where I was in charge of a project, and I've done my own side work where I handled all client meetings, design, everything. I've gone for another job, with a company that is significantly smaller. The job they are offering me would involve all those things, client meetings, design, planning, you name it. I'm rapt about that, but the issues are: 1. This job is only paying $3000 more than I get now, for a lot more work. The main point is that I'll not have time to pursue as much outside work as I have been, so my income will drop 2. The company I am with is visibly a major player, my job security will definately drop also. I am not a recent graduate, I have a wife and kids to support. So I'd not be moving for the money, but if it works out it could be great for my career. What would you do ?

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            The Anonimator wrote: I just do what I'm told. I've done stuff in the past where I was in charge of a project, and I've done my own side work where I handled all client meetings, Man!! I hate meetings and if I could do without them clients also :) We actually have a person that does all that at our little company. The Anonimator wrote: 1. This job is only paying $3000 more than I get now, for a lot more work. The main point is that I'll not have time to pursue as much outside work as I have been, so my income will drop I have read thru the other answers to your post and while I agree on an emotional level that job satisfaction is a high priority my pragmatic side tells me that money is important - real important. I don't know your current salary level but you have to also pay attention to tax levels and benefits as well as total salary. There are lots of situations ( I am in one now ) where additional income will be eaten up by taxes. The Anonimator wrote: . The company I am with is visibly a major player, my job security will definately drop also. I am not a recent graduate, I have a wife and kids to support Job security in this day and age is very important. I know a lot of people who have turned down jobs that they really liked in order to to have job security. It seems to me that the trade offs for changing jobs in your case comes down to a choice between doing something you like vs security and stability. If there was no wife and childern involved it would be a simple choice but ... well its not an easy thing. Having said all that 20 years ago I ( having a wife and a child ) quit a job paying over 100K a year and started my own business. We struggled like crazy for the first 3 years ( making about 30-40K ) before we got going good. It was - and is - the best choice I have ever made. But thats just me :) Richard "Under certain circumstances, profanity provides a relief denied even to prayer --Mark Twain (1835 - 1910)

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