A professional app that doesn't show a progress bar during a time consuming operation!!!
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I’ve been recommending Wise Installer to anyone who asked the what-installer-to-buy question, but today I’ve got some negative feedback regarding the way they’ve designed their UI. Or rather their UE (user experience). I was adding files to an installer project (160 MB approx spread out over 4000 files in 250 folders) and obviously I knew it’d take time. But the Wise UI froze up for the entire duration of the process (about 15 minutes) and was not responding at all. Later when I saved the project, the same thing repeated (the UI froze for nearly 6 minutes). I was like “what the hell?”. Even newbie programmers know how to use threads and how to show a progress bar during a time consuming operation, don’t they? I do hope, the people at Wise see this post of mine – and if they do, I request them to take this criticism constructively. I still haven’t changed my opinion about Wise being the best commercial installer application out there, but some facts are facts. Nish
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I’ve been recommending Wise Installer to anyone who asked the what-installer-to-buy question, but today I’ve got some negative feedback regarding the way they’ve designed their UI. Or rather their UE (user experience). I was adding files to an installer project (160 MB approx spread out over 4000 files in 250 folders) and obviously I knew it’d take time. But the Wise UI froze up for the entire duration of the process (about 15 minutes) and was not responding at all. Later when I saved the project, the same thing repeated (the UI froze for nearly 6 minutes). I was like “what the hell?”. Even newbie programmers know how to use threads and how to show a progress bar during a time consuming operation, don’t they? I do hope, the people at Wise see this post of mine – and if they do, I request them to take this criticism constructively. I still haven’t changed my opinion about Wise being the best commercial installer application out there, but some facts are facts. Nish
Nishant S wrote: I was like “what the hell?”. Even newbie programmers know how to use threads and how to show a progress bar during a time consuming operation, don’t they? Yeah, and every customer knows intuitively that the progress bar is just some dumb background animation running that can and will keep running if the installer crashes. :-D Though I agree, there should be feedback. Marc MyXaml Advanced Unit Testing YAPO
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Nishant S wrote: I was like “what the hell?”. Even newbie programmers know how to use threads and how to show a progress bar during a time consuming operation, don’t they? Yeah, and every customer knows intuitively that the progress bar is just some dumb background animation running that can and will keep running if the installer crashes. :-D Though I agree, there should be feedback. Marc MyXaml Advanced Unit Testing YAPO
Marc Clifton wrote: Yeah, and every customer knows intuitively that the progress bar is just some dumb background animation running that can and will keep running if the installer crashes. :-D They do show a progressbar when building the msi, but building the msi took far fewer minutes than adding the files. Beats me why they don't show a progressbar for an operation that could possibly be many times longer than an operation for which they do show a progressbar.
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Marc Clifton wrote: Yeah, and every customer knows intuitively that the progress bar is just some dumb background animation running that can and will keep running if the installer crashes. :-D They do show a progressbar when building the msi, but building the msi took far fewer minutes than adding the files. Beats me why they don't show a progressbar for an operation that could possibly be many times longer than an operation for which they do show a progressbar.
Nishant S wrote: Beats me why they don't show a progressbar for an operation that could possibly be many times longer than an operation for which they do show a progressbar. Maybe the haven't tested with big files ? :sigh: :-D Greets Roland
Wenn Du diesen Satz irgendwo liest, ignoriere ihn.
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I’ve been recommending Wise Installer to anyone who asked the what-installer-to-buy question, but today I’ve got some negative feedback regarding the way they’ve designed their UI. Or rather their UE (user experience). I was adding files to an installer project (160 MB approx spread out over 4000 files in 250 folders) and obviously I knew it’d take time. But the Wise UI froze up for the entire duration of the process (about 15 minutes) and was not responding at all. Later when I saved the project, the same thing repeated (the UI froze for nearly 6 minutes). I was like “what the hell?”. Even newbie programmers know how to use threads and how to show a progress bar during a time consuming operation, don’t they? I do hope, the people at Wise see this post of mine – and if they do, I request them to take this criticism constructively. I still haven’t changed my opinion about Wise being the best commercial installer application out there, but some facts are facts. Nish
Nishant S wrote: Even newbie programmers know how to use threads and how to show a progress bar during a time consuming operation, don’t they? Actually, no. At least they don't know how to do it correctly anyway. What I have personally observed is that almost all applications that use multithreading have some flaw, even if it's only minor. Out of those a significant percentage have a major flaw.
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Nishant S wrote: Beats me why they don't show a progressbar for an operation that could possibly be many times longer than an operation for which they do show a progressbar. Maybe the haven't tested with big files ? :sigh: :-D Greets Roland
Wenn Du diesen Satz irgendwo liest, ignoriere ihn.
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I’ve been recommending Wise Installer to anyone who asked the what-installer-to-buy question, but today I’ve got some negative feedback regarding the way they’ve designed their UI. Or rather their UE (user experience). I was adding files to an installer project (160 MB approx spread out over 4000 files in 250 folders) and obviously I knew it’d take time. But the Wise UI froze up for the entire duration of the process (about 15 minutes) and was not responding at all. Later when I saved the project, the same thing repeated (the UI froze for nearly 6 minutes). I was like “what the hell?”. Even newbie programmers know how to use threads and how to show a progress bar during a time consuming operation, don’t they? I do hope, the people at Wise see this post of mine – and if they do, I request them to take this criticism constructively. I still haven’t changed my opinion about Wise being the best commercial installer application out there, but some facts are facts. Nish
Nishant S wrote: Even newbie programmers know how to use threads and how to show a progress bar during a time consuming operation, don’t they?...I request them to take this criticism constructively. I doubt that many people would take that constructively ;P Cheers, Tom Archer - Archer Consulting Group Programmer Trainer and Mentor and Project Management Consultant
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I’ve been recommending Wise Installer to anyone who asked the what-installer-to-buy question, but today I’ve got some negative feedback regarding the way they’ve designed their UI. Or rather their UE (user experience). I was adding files to an installer project (160 MB approx spread out over 4000 files in 250 folders) and obviously I knew it’d take time. But the Wise UI froze up for the entire duration of the process (about 15 minutes) and was not responding at all. Later when I saved the project, the same thing repeated (the UI froze for nearly 6 minutes). I was like “what the hell?”. Even newbie programmers know how to use threads and how to show a progress bar during a time consuming operation, don’t they? I do hope, the people at Wise see this post of mine – and if they do, I request them to take this criticism constructively. I still haven’t changed my opinion about Wise being the best commercial installer application out there, but some facts are facts. Nish
Nishant S wrote: Even newbie programmers know how to use threads and how to show a progress bar during a time consuming operation, don’t they? Heh, no. Most newbie programmers (and a fair number of experienced!) seem to be scared of threads. And the ones that do use them often as not do something stupid, like making multiple UI threads communicating with global variables and critical sections, rather than splitting the underlying logic (the slow code) into a separate thread and using some reliable way to communicate between them when necessary. I blame it on most Windows programming books leaving threads for the tenth chapter, with a lame console app example, and lots of warnings about how deadlock is gonna getcha if you don't run away.
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I’ve been recommending Wise Installer to anyone who asked the what-installer-to-buy question, but today I’ve got some negative feedback regarding the way they’ve designed their UI. Or rather their UE (user experience). I was adding files to an installer project (160 MB approx spread out over 4000 files in 250 folders) and obviously I knew it’d take time. But the Wise UI froze up for the entire duration of the process (about 15 minutes) and was not responding at all. Later when I saved the project, the same thing repeated (the UI froze for nearly 6 minutes). I was like “what the hell?”. Even newbie programmers know how to use threads and how to show a progress bar during a time consuming operation, don’t they? I do hope, the people at Wise see this post of mine – and if they do, I request them to take this criticism constructively. I still haven’t changed my opinion about Wise being the best commercial installer application out there, but some facts are facts. Nish
Nishant S wrote: I was like Holy Crap Nish! - have you been hanging around sorority chicks again? Or watching "90210"[^]? ¡El diablo está en mis pantalones! ¡Mire, mire! Real Mentats use only 100% pure, unfooled around with Sapho Juice(tm)! SELECT * FROM User WHERE Clue > 0 0 rows returned Save an Orange - Use the VCF!
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I think it's a matter of the number of files, not their size. They probably only tested with a max a few hundred. His hands felt the grasp of strong white hairs, and he knew he would not survive this fungus.
Not even a wait cursor :doh:
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Nishant S wrote: I was like Holy Crap Nish! - have you been hanging around sorority chicks again? Or watching "90210"[^]? ¡El diablo está en mis pantalones! ¡Mire, mire! Real Mentats use only 100% pure, unfooled around with Sapho Juice(tm)! SELECT * FROM User WHERE Clue > 0 0 rows returned Save an Orange - Use the VCF!
Jim Crafton wrote: Holy Crap Nish! - have you been hanging around sorority chicks again? Or watching "90210"[^]? :-> Must have been the highly nervous state I was in when I watched the frozen UI for several minutes!