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    Aamir Butt
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    What you people do when you are totally pi**ed off at someone while answering question in some forum here. Okay, wait let me tell you the story. I saw a question in VC forum regarding changing the background color of the dialog in MFC application. I replied him by saying that you have to handle ONCTLCOLOR. He/she instantly mailed me with his full code and asked me to fix the problem. I looked at the code and the problem was that he was trying to change the dialog color by getting dialog id with GetDlgCtrlID() like this:

    if(pWnd->GetDlgCtrlID() == IDD_DIALOG1)

    I replied him here saying that he should ask questions here rather than asking individuals and I suggested him the solution to change the code to:

    if(pWnd == this)

    This whole story happened yesterday. Today I saw a message by the same person in VC forum, that what is "this" in VC. :-> Now, what should u people do in such a case :) Found on Bash.org I'm going to become rich and famous after i invent a device that allows you to stab people in the face over the internet My Articles

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    • A Aamir Butt

      What you people do when you are totally pi**ed off at someone while answering question in some forum here. Okay, wait let me tell you the story. I saw a question in VC forum regarding changing the background color of the dialog in MFC application. I replied him by saying that you have to handle ONCTLCOLOR. He/she instantly mailed me with his full code and asked me to fix the problem. I looked at the code and the problem was that he was trying to change the dialog color by getting dialog id with GetDlgCtrlID() like this:

      if(pWnd->GetDlgCtrlID() == IDD_DIALOG1)

      I replied him here saying that he should ask questions here rather than asking individuals and I suggested him the solution to change the code to:

      if(pWnd == this)

      This whole story happened yesterday. Today I saw a message by the same person in VC forum, that what is "this" in VC. :-> Now, what should u people do in such a case :) Found on Bash.org I'm going to become rich and famous after i invent a device that allows you to stab people in the face over the internet My Articles

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      benjymous
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      Yes... I know your pain Years ago I used to maintain a programming related faq, with information gleaned from an assortment of message boards and mailing lists (it was for development on the Sega Dreamcast's mini handheld memory card - remember those?) I used to get frequent emails from people who'd obviously got as far as finding the FAQ, but were unable (or couldn't be bothered) to read the actual answers Meaning I'd get lots of "how do I do xyz?" or "I try to do xyz but it doesn't work... HELP!!" mails - things that were covered in detail in the FAQ. I guess there must be something in the human nature to think that you must be the only person to have suffered from a particular problem, so there's no point even considering that an answer may already be out there. At first I wrote friendly helpful emails based on information from the FAQ tailored for the particular question being asked. As the weeks and months went on, I ended up just pasting the answer from the faq, and then later just pasting the url to the answer in the faq (but people would often still reply with "thanks that's fixed - but how do I do something else?" (which of course was also answered by the FAQ) In the end I just ended up ignoring most of them :sigh: -- Help me! I'm turning into a grapefruit! Phoenix Paint - back from DPaint's ashes!

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      • A Aamir Butt

        What you people do when you are totally pi**ed off at someone while answering question in some forum here. Okay, wait let me tell you the story. I saw a question in VC forum regarding changing the background color of the dialog in MFC application. I replied him by saying that you have to handle ONCTLCOLOR. He/she instantly mailed me with his full code and asked me to fix the problem. I looked at the code and the problem was that he was trying to change the dialog color by getting dialog id with GetDlgCtrlID() like this:

        if(pWnd->GetDlgCtrlID() == IDD_DIALOG1)

        I replied him here saying that he should ask questions here rather than asking individuals and I suggested him the solution to change the code to:

        if(pWnd == this)

        This whole story happened yesterday. Today I saw a message by the same person in VC forum, that what is "this" in VC. :-> Now, what should u people do in such a case :) Found on Bash.org I'm going to become rich and famous after i invent a device that allows you to stab people in the face over the internet My Articles

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        Antony M Kancidrowski
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        Aamir Butt wrote: Now, what should u people do in such a case You should expect to find questions from people of varying abilities. Also given that the question is posted to an open forum you could either answer the question or ignore it. As for direct emailing, then your answer you gave is generally accepted IMO. Ant. I'm hard, yet soft.
        I'm coloured, yet clear.
        I'm fruity and sweet.
        I'm jelly, what am I? Muse on it further, I shall return!
        - David Walliams (Little Britain)

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        • A Aamir Butt

          What you people do when you are totally pi**ed off at someone while answering question in some forum here. Okay, wait let me tell you the story. I saw a question in VC forum regarding changing the background color of the dialog in MFC application. I replied him by saying that you have to handle ONCTLCOLOR. He/she instantly mailed me with his full code and asked me to fix the problem. I looked at the code and the problem was that he was trying to change the dialog color by getting dialog id with GetDlgCtrlID() like this:

          if(pWnd->GetDlgCtrlID() == IDD_DIALOG1)

          I replied him here saying that he should ask questions here rather than asking individuals and I suggested him the solution to change the code to:

          if(pWnd == this)

          This whole story happened yesterday. Today I saw a message by the same person in VC forum, that what is "this" in VC. :-> Now, what should u people do in such a case :) Found on Bash.org I'm going to become rich and famous after i invent a device that allows you to stab people in the face over the internet My Articles

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          David Crow
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          Aamir Butt wrote: Now, what should u people do in such a case Ignoring him comes to mind. Remember that this is a volunteer site. You are not obligated to answer threads to completion. Sometimes steering someone in the right, or another, direction is the best you can hope for.


          "Opinions are neither right nor wrong. I cannot change your opinion. I can, however, change what influences your opinion." - David Crow

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          • A Aamir Butt

            What you people do when you are totally pi**ed off at someone while answering question in some forum here. Okay, wait let me tell you the story. I saw a question in VC forum regarding changing the background color of the dialog in MFC application. I replied him by saying that you have to handle ONCTLCOLOR. He/she instantly mailed me with his full code and asked me to fix the problem. I looked at the code and the problem was that he was trying to change the dialog color by getting dialog id with GetDlgCtrlID() like this:

            if(pWnd->GetDlgCtrlID() == IDD_DIALOG1)

            I replied him here saying that he should ask questions here rather than asking individuals and I suggested him the solution to change the code to:

            if(pWnd == this)

            This whole story happened yesterday. Today I saw a message by the same person in VC forum, that what is "this" in VC. :-> Now, what should u people do in such a case :) Found on Bash.org I'm going to become rich and famous after i invent a device that allows you to stab people in the face over the internet My Articles

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            basementman
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            I have noticed the total lack of desire to learn in some of the posts. Most answers to questions are blatently in the MSDN docs, but some people are just too lazy to look for themselves. This can be frustrating, so usually I just tell them the function name, so it forces them to look it up. Hopefully, looking it up in the docs will become habit forming, and they will learn how to help themselves.  onwards and upwards...

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              Aamir Butt wrote: Now, what should u people do in such a case Ignoring him comes to mind. Remember that this is a volunteer site. You are not obligated to answer threads to completion. Sometimes steering someone in the right, or another, direction is the best you can hope for.


              "Opinions are neither right nor wrong. I cannot change your opinion. I can, however, change what influences your opinion." - David Crow

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              Jerry Hammond
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              DavidCrow wrote: Sometimes steering someone in the right, or another, direction is the best you can hope for. Or another? Jerry He said this was like painstakingly assembling the first layer of a house of cards, then boasting that the next 15,000 layers were a mere formality.--The Code Book, pp. 331 Toasty0.com DotNetGroup.org

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              • B basementman

                I have noticed the total lack of desire to learn in some of the posts. Most answers to questions are blatently in the MSDN docs, but some people are just too lazy to look for themselves. This can be frustrating, so usually I just tell them the function name, so it forces them to look it up. Hopefully, looking it up in the docs will become habit forming, and they will learn how to help themselves.  onwards and upwards...

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                David Crow
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                basementman wrote: Hopefully, looking it up in the docs will become habit forming, and they will learn how to help themselves. Much like the Chinese proverb: Give a man a fish and you feed him for a day. Teach a man to fish and you feed him for a lifetime.


                "Opinions are neither right nor wrong. I cannot change your opinion. I can, however, change what influences your opinion." - David Crow

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                • A Aamir Butt

                  What you people do when you are totally pi**ed off at someone while answering question in some forum here. Okay, wait let me tell you the story. I saw a question in VC forum regarding changing the background color of the dialog in MFC application. I replied him by saying that you have to handle ONCTLCOLOR. He/she instantly mailed me with his full code and asked me to fix the problem. I looked at the code and the problem was that he was trying to change the dialog color by getting dialog id with GetDlgCtrlID() like this:

                  if(pWnd->GetDlgCtrlID() == IDD_DIALOG1)

                  I replied him here saying that he should ask questions here rather than asking individuals and I suggested him the solution to change the code to:

                  if(pWnd == this)

                  This whole story happened yesterday. Today I saw a message by the same person in VC forum, that what is "this" in VC. :-> Now, what should u people do in such a case :) Found on Bash.org I'm going to become rich and famous after i invent a device that allows you to stab people in the face over the internet My Articles

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                  Jesse Squire
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                  At that point, I usually encourage the individual to either read the MSDN documentation or visit Rent-A-Coder. Look on the bright side... at least that person was asking a question. It seems that we're getting more and more of the "I want to write a chat application. How do I do that? Give me source codes in C#."-type posts lately. :rolleyes: --Jesse

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                  • A Aamir Butt

                    What you people do when you are totally pi**ed off at someone while answering question in some forum here. Okay, wait let me tell you the story. I saw a question in VC forum regarding changing the background color of the dialog in MFC application. I replied him by saying that you have to handle ONCTLCOLOR. He/she instantly mailed me with his full code and asked me to fix the problem. I looked at the code and the problem was that he was trying to change the dialog color by getting dialog id with GetDlgCtrlID() like this:

                    if(pWnd->GetDlgCtrlID() == IDD_DIALOG1)

                    I replied him here saying that he should ask questions here rather than asking individuals and I suggested him the solution to change the code to:

                    if(pWnd == this)

                    This whole story happened yesterday. Today I saw a message by the same person in VC forum, that what is "this" in VC. :-> Now, what should u people do in such a case :) Found on Bash.org I'm going to become rich and famous after i invent a device that allows you to stab people in the face over the internet My Articles

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                    Henry miller
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                    Send them to this URL: http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html

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