It took only 8:17...
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That's impressive... I once installed Win98 in about 16 minutes, but from the CD, from "setup" to when it has already booted showing the tip of the day... but 8:17?? wow!! -- LuisR -------- Luis Alonso Ramos Chihuahua, Mexico www.luisalonsoramos.com
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That is pretty damned good. Do you think she'd notice if you swapped your machines round? ;) ________________ David Wulff http://www.davidwulff.co.uk "My grandfather once told me that there are two kinds of people: those who work and those who take the credit. He told me to try to be in the first group, there was less competition there" - Gandhi
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And that includes me going with a custom install where I pick the stuff that gets loaded. "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001
Yeah, I did that too... I always like checking every single category and selecting everything I want. We programmers always do that, don't we? -- LuisR -------- Luis Alonso Ramos Chihuahua, Mexico www.luisalonsoramos.com
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Claudius Mokler wrote: a) What machine are you talking about? A member of his family has just had a 1800MHz Athlon XP system built, sounds like a killer setup. Claudius Mokler wrote: b) Why should anyone want to install Windows 98 anyway? And what's wrong with win98? Simon Nobody does chicken like MFC Sonork ID 100.10024
Simon Walton wrote: And what's wrong with win98? Was that a typo and you mean't "What isn't wrong with Win98?", right? :-D IMHO the problem with Win98 is that it is Win95 at the core but with a billion performance and stability sapping addons added on top of it. i.e. they have not made much effort to optimise the plumbing, instead they put new sprinkler and tap valves on the end bits. regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass Cape Town, South Africa "The greatest thing you will ever learn is to love, and be loved in return" - Moulin Rouge Martin Marvinski wrote: Unfortunatly Deep Throat isn't my cup of tea Do you Sonork? I do! 100.9903 Stormfront
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Unfortunately... yes. :) "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001
Maybe you could switch the components around, but leave the cases as they are? That way if she is computer illiterate she may never know! ________________ David Wulff http://www.davidwulff.co.uk "My grandfather once told me that there are two kinds of people: those who work and those who take the credit. He told me to try to be in the first group, there was less competition there" - Gandhi
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Simon Walton wrote: And what's wrong with win98? Was that a typo and you mean't "What isn't wrong with Win98?", right? :-D IMHO the problem with Win98 is that it is Win95 at the core but with a billion performance and stability sapping addons added on top of it. i.e. they have not made much effort to optimise the plumbing, instead they put new sprinkler and tap valves on the end bits. regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass Cape Town, South Africa "The greatest thing you will ever learn is to love, and be loved in return" - Moulin Rouge Martin Marvinski wrote: Unfortunatly Deep Throat isn't my cup of tea Do you Sonork? I do! 100.9903 Stormfront
Paul Watson wrote: IMHO the problem with Win98 is that it is Win95 at the core but with a billion performance and stability sapping addons added on top of it. i.e. they have not made much effort to optimise the plumbing, instead they put new sprinkler and tap valves on the end bits. Paul, you're so so wrong. It's just win95 with gradient title bars. 3 years work well spent, I think. Simon Nobody does chicken like MFC Sonork ID 100.10024
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Yeah, I did that too... I always like checking every single category and selecting everything I want. We programmers always do that, don't we? -- LuisR -------- Luis Alonso Ramos Chihuahua, Mexico www.luisalonsoramos.com
Luis Alonso Ramos wrote: Yeah, I did that too... I always like checking every single category and selecting everything I want. We programmers always do that, don't we? :laugh: :omg: :-O That is so true. I actually get annoyed when I work on our sales guys laptops as they installed them with just the default options. So the bleeding OS is cluttered with stupid accessibility features (for people with 20/20 vision and sharp hearing), daft games and silly utilities. Once I simply reinstalled the sales guys laptop on a whim and got rid of all the crap. It was a good deal faster overall but the sales guy screamed "What happened to my OnScreen Keyboard*?" He never used it but thought it was cool and like having the icon there... go figure I have a specific setup that I use when using W2K (or now XP). A set of apps and utilities and settings that do not deviate across all the installations I have done. If there is something on the machine not in my list I get this itchy "uninstall" feeling :-D * with W2K you get a utility which shows an onscreen keyboard and you can type that way, a bit like a handheld. it sucks though of course regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass Cape Town, South Africa "The greatest thing you will ever learn is to love, and be loved in return" - Moulin Rouge Martin Marvinski wrote: Unfortunatly Deep Throat isn't my cup of tea Do you Sonork? I do! 100.9903 Stormfront
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Simon Walton wrote: And what's wrong with win98? Was that a typo and you mean't "What isn't wrong with Win98?", right? :-D IMHO the problem with Win98 is that it is Win95 at the core but with a billion performance and stability sapping addons added on top of it. i.e. they have not made much effort to optimise the plumbing, instead they put new sprinkler and tap valves on the end bits. regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass Cape Town, South Africa "The greatest thing you will ever learn is to love, and be loved in return" - Moulin Rouge Martin Marvinski wrote: Unfortunatly Deep Throat isn't my cup of tea Do you Sonork? I do! 100.9903 Stormfront
When you compare it to Win95 or WinXP, or even WinME, there's *nothing* wrong with Win98. When you consider that it's the only Windows version that I'm *positive* will work with the legacy hardware my sister owns, there's *nothing* wrong with Win98. When you consider that I'm also installing Win2K on the box just in case she can, in fact, use it witrh her legacy hardware, there's *nothing* wrong with Win98. When you consider that Win95 has no/nebulous support for USB (which my ister has indicated an interest in, there's *nothing* wrong with Win98. When you consider that I'm not the primary user of this machine and I don't really care which version of Windows she's using, there's *nothing* wrong with Win98. "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001
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...to perform a preliminary install of Win98 on the "killer machine" - only 8 minutes, 17 seconds from the time I typed "setup" to the time it booted the last time. I haven't added any hardware specific drivers yet, but still, that's a damn impressive install time. Oh yeah, I had copied the contents of the win98 CD onto the hard drive to save some time. This machine hauls ass - I want one... "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001
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Maybe you could switch the components around, but leave the cases as they are? That way if she is computer illiterate she may never know! ________________ David Wulff http://www.davidwulff.co.uk "My grandfather once told me that there are two kinds of people: those who work and those who take the credit. He told me to try to be in the first group, there was less competition there" - Gandhi
I don't know how computer illiterate she is/isn't. Besides, her husband is involved, and he may be more knowledgable than she is. I'll eventually have a screamer like this, and you can bet I'm watching the weather reports for Hell, but the temperature is still too high to support the formation of anything that would resemble an ice crystal. :) "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001
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I don't know how computer illiterate she is/isn't. Besides, her husband is involved, and he may be more knowledgable than she is. I'll eventually have a screamer like this, and you can bet I'm watching the weather reports for Hell, but the temperature is still too high to support the formation of anything that would resemble an ice crystal. :) "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001
John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote: Besides, her husband is involved, and he may be more knowledgable than she is. Yes, but is he bigger than you? :) John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote: I'll eventually have a screamer like this, and you can bet I'm watching the weather reports for Hell, but the temperature is still too high to support the formation of anything that would resemble an ice crystal. Come and live in sunny ol' Britian, then you won't have any problems. Tiverton could easily be hell from what I've seen, and it sure is cold... ________________ David Wulff http://www.davidwulff.co.uk "My grandfather once told me that there are two kinds of people: those who work and those who take the credit. He told me to try to be in the first group, there was less competition there" - Gandhi
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Paul Watson wrote: IMHO the problem with Win98 is that it is Win95 at the core but with a billion performance and stability sapping addons added on top of it. i.e. they have not made much effort to optimise the plumbing, instead they put new sprinkler and tap valves on the end bits. Paul, you're so so wrong. It's just win95 with gradient title bars. 3 years work well spent, I think. Simon Nobody does chicken like MFC Sonork ID 100.10024
Simon Walton wrote: Paul, you're so so wrong. It's just win95 with gradient title bars. 3 years work well spent, I think. ROFLMAO! Oh you are so right and I am so humbly wrong! Your put down is way better! :-D regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass Cape Town, South Africa "The greatest thing you will ever learn is to love, and be loved in return" - Moulin Rouge Martin Marvinski wrote: Unfortunatly Deep Throat isn't my cup of tea Do you Sonork? I do! 100.9903 Stormfront
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When you compare it to Win95 or WinXP, or even WinME, there's *nothing* wrong with Win98. When you consider that it's the only Windows version that I'm *positive* will work with the legacy hardware my sister owns, there's *nothing* wrong with Win98. When you consider that I'm also installing Win2K on the box just in case she can, in fact, use it witrh her legacy hardware, there's *nothing* wrong with Win98. When you consider that Win95 has no/nebulous support for USB (which my ister has indicated an interest in, there's *nothing* wrong with Win98. When you consider that I'm not the primary user of this machine and I don't really care which version of Windows she's using, there's *nothing* wrong with Win98. "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001
John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote: When you consider that I'm not the primary user of this machine and I don't really care which version of Windows she's using, there's *nothing* wrong with Win98. LOL, exactly. Well summed up. regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass Cape Town, South Africa "The greatest thing you will ever learn is to love, and be loved in return" - Moulin Rouge Martin Marvinski wrote: Unfortunatly Deep Throat isn't my cup of tea Do you Sonork? I do! 100.9903 Stormfront
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Claudius Mokler wrote: a) What machine are you talking about? A member of his family has just had a 1800MHz Athlon XP system built, sounds like a killer setup. Claudius Mokler wrote: b) Why should anyone want to install Windows 98 anyway? And what's wrong with win98? Simon Nobody does chicken like MFC Sonork ID 100.10024
1.8 GHz eh? Hmmmm... How much RAM has it got? That's what counts in the end! Nish Sonork ID 100.9786 voidmain www.busterboy.org If you don't find me on CP, I'll be at Bob's HungOut
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Luis Alonso Ramos wrote: Yeah, I did that too... I always like checking every single category and selecting everything I want. We programmers always do that, don't we? :laugh: :omg: :-O That is so true. I actually get annoyed when I work on our sales guys laptops as they installed them with just the default options. So the bleeding OS is cluttered with stupid accessibility features (for people with 20/20 vision and sharp hearing), daft games and silly utilities. Once I simply reinstalled the sales guys laptop on a whim and got rid of all the crap. It was a good deal faster overall but the sales guy screamed "What happened to my OnScreen Keyboard*?" He never used it but thought it was cool and like having the icon there... go figure I have a specific setup that I use when using W2K (or now XP). A set of apps and utilities and settings that do not deviate across all the installations I have done. If there is something on the machine not in my list I get this itchy "uninstall" feeling :-D * with W2K you get a utility which shows an onscreen keyboard and you can type that way, a bit like a handheld. it sucks though of course regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass Cape Town, South Africa "The greatest thing you will ever learn is to love, and be loved in return" - Moulin Rouge Martin Marvinski wrote: Unfortunatly Deep Throat isn't my cup of tea Do you Sonork? I do! 100.9903 Stormfront
hahaha ditto --- "every year we invent better idiot proof systems and every year they invent better idiots ... and the linux zealots still aren't being sterilized"
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Luis Alonso Ramos wrote: Yeah, I did that too... I always like checking every single category and selecting everything I want. We programmers always do that, don't we? :laugh: :omg: :-O That is so true. I actually get annoyed when I work on our sales guys laptops as they installed them with just the default options. So the bleeding OS is cluttered with stupid accessibility features (for people with 20/20 vision and sharp hearing), daft games and silly utilities. Once I simply reinstalled the sales guys laptop on a whim and got rid of all the crap. It was a good deal faster overall but the sales guy screamed "What happened to my OnScreen Keyboard*?" He never used it but thought it was cool and like having the icon there... go figure I have a specific setup that I use when using W2K (or now XP). A set of apps and utilities and settings that do not deviate across all the installations I have done. If there is something on the machine not in my list I get this itchy "uninstall" feeling :-D * with W2K you get a utility which shows an onscreen keyboard and you can type that way, a bit like a handheld. it sucks though of course regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass Cape Town, South Africa "The greatest thing you will ever learn is to love, and be loved in return" - Moulin Rouge Martin Marvinski wrote: Unfortunatly Deep Throat isn't my cup of tea Do you Sonork? I do! 100.9903 Stormfront
Most of the time I only tweak one feature or two, but I always like to see exactly what is going to be installed... in the case of Windows, one of the features I add is all the administrative apps (performance monitor and the like). I just bought a new laptop (a Sony VAIO R505, with the docking station and all, it's cool!) and it came with an awful lot of things preinstalled... I reached for the Add/Remove Programs applet in Control Panel... and BANG! Killed several of them... I was thinking about reformatting the disk (it comes partitioned and I hate it), but the computer didn't come with the XP Pro CD (only that System Restore which brings it all up to where we stared)... but I remembered that you buy the license, not the software itself, so I can use another XP Pro CD with the product key that came with the laptop in a sticker and it's perfectly legal. Or am I wrong? -- LuisR -------- Luis Alonso Ramos Chihuahua, Mexico www.luisalonsoramos.com
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Most of the time I only tweak one feature or two, but I always like to see exactly what is going to be installed... in the case of Windows, one of the features I add is all the administrative apps (performance monitor and the like). I just bought a new laptop (a Sony VAIO R505, with the docking station and all, it's cool!) and it came with an awful lot of things preinstalled... I reached for the Add/Remove Programs applet in Control Panel... and BANG! Killed several of them... I was thinking about reformatting the disk (it comes partitioned and I hate it), but the computer didn't come with the XP Pro CD (only that System Restore which brings it all up to where we stared)... but I remembered that you buy the license, not the software itself, so I can use another XP Pro CD with the product key that came with the laptop in a sticker and it's perfectly legal. Or am I wrong? -- LuisR -------- Luis Alonso Ramos Chihuahua, Mexico www.luisalonsoramos.com
Luis Alonso Ramos wrote: I was thinking about reformatting the disk Oh yes do that! I always do that to a new machine. Remember Add/Remove Software does not do such a good job. DLLs, registry settings, services etc. are often left behind and then you have to manually remove them. Rather start clean and install up. Luis Alonso Ramos wrote: Or am I wrong? Your guess is as good as mine Luis, I honestly am thoroughly confused by Microsofts licensing. All I know is we have MSDN and I don't have to worry :-D regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass Cape Town, South Africa "The greatest thing you will ever learn is to love, and be loved in return" - Moulin Rouge Martin Marvinski wrote: Unfortunatly Deep Throat isn't my cup of tea Do you Sonork? I do! 100.9903 Stormfront
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Most of the time I only tweak one feature or two, but I always like to see exactly what is going to be installed... in the case of Windows, one of the features I add is all the administrative apps (performance monitor and the like). I just bought a new laptop (a Sony VAIO R505, with the docking station and all, it's cool!) and it came with an awful lot of things preinstalled... I reached for the Add/Remove Programs applet in Control Panel... and BANG! Killed several of them... I was thinking about reformatting the disk (it comes partitioned and I hate it), but the computer didn't come with the XP Pro CD (only that System Restore which brings it all up to where we stared)... but I remembered that you buy the license, not the software itself, so I can use another XP Pro CD with the product key that came with the laptop in a sticker and it's perfectly legal. Or am I wrong? -- LuisR -------- Luis Alonso Ramos Chihuahua, Mexico www.luisalonsoramos.com
Luis Alonso Ramos wrote: so I can use another XP Pro CD with the product key that came with the laptop in a sticker and it's perfectly legal. Or am I wrong? I would imagine in your scenario, yes it would be perfectly legal, as you own the license represented by the product key. ________________ David Wulff http://www.davidwulff.co.uk "My grandfather once told me that there are two kinds of people: those who work and those who take the credit. He told me to try to be in the first group, there was less competition there" - Gandhi
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...to perform a preliminary install of Win98 on the "killer machine" - only 8 minutes, 17 seconds from the time I typed "setup" to the time it booted the last time. I haven't added any hardware specific drivers yet, but still, that's a damn impressive install time. Oh yeah, I had copied the contents of the win98 CD onto the hard drive to save some time. This machine hauls ass - I want one... "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001
I can install Win98 in 2 minutes with all drives and applications. Is it cheating if I use Ghost?
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...to perform a preliminary install of Win98 on the "killer machine" - only 8 minutes, 17 seconds from the time I typed "setup" to the time it booted the last time. I haven't added any hardware specific drivers yet, but still, that's a damn impressive install time. Oh yeah, I had copied the contents of the win98 CD onto the hard drive to save some time. This machine hauls ass - I want one... "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001
