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  • D David Stone

    Since when is CP a less-fortunate country? :rolleyes:


    Quantum materiae materietur marmota monax si marmota monax materiam possit materiari?

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    Nish Nishant
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    David Stone wrote: Since when is CP a less-fortunate country? Since when is CP a country? :rolleyes:

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      Hey guys, Can any coders/developers in South Africa give me an idea of an ok monthly salary? (im going to be working in Durban) thanks Scott

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      Megan Forbes
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      That would be extremely difficult to answer without knowing your experience/skills details :) If you don't want to give us that info however you could have a look at Career Junction[^] or Google for other SA job sites and have a look around at what is being offered.


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      • S sfawcett

        Hey guys, Can any coders/developers in South Africa give me an idea of an ok monthly salary? (im going to be working in Durban) thanks Scott

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        SimonS
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        Oi, Paul isn't the only South African on CP. ;P Have a look at the 2004 salary survey on this[^] site. It shows that the average salary of the respondents was R24,000 total / month. Sounds a little high, but it really depends on your experience and area of the market you are aiming for. What do you specialise in? You might also find SARS[^] useful. It's our revenue service. Cheers, Simon sig ::
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          Oi, Paul isn't the only South African on CP. ;P Have a look at the 2004 salary survey on this[^] site. It shows that the average salary of the respondents was R24,000 total / month. Sounds a little high, but it really depends on your experience and area of the market you are aiming for. What do you specialise in? You might also find SARS[^] useful. It's our revenue service. Cheers, Simon sig ::
          "Don't try to be like Jackie. There is only one Jackie.... Study computers instead.", Jackie Chan on career choices.
          article :: animation mechanics in SVG blog:: brokenkeyboards
          "Most of us are programmers, but a few use VB", Christian Graus

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          Megan Forbes
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          That 2004 salary survey link is really interesting Simon. Looking at the average salary it is clear however that the surveyors didn't spend much time talking to Dev's in the Lowveld :doh: I find this sentance interesting: "On the programming side, Java has leaped ahead of Natural and Cobol and remains well ahead of Delphi, reflecting increased adoption of Java across a wide variety of applications and a recession in the importance of legacy skills as companies consolidate, rationalise, update application sets, and move to application integration solutions." While I'm surprised this didn't happen a while ago, it's a pity they don't state where C# and VB.NET falls into this as well as Java.


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            That 2004 salary survey link is really interesting Simon. Looking at the average salary it is clear however that the surveyors didn't spend much time talking to Dev's in the Lowveld :doh: I find this sentance interesting: "On the programming side, Java has leaped ahead of Natural and Cobol and remains well ahead of Delphi, reflecting increased adoption of Java across a wide variety of applications and a recession in the importance of legacy skills as companies consolidate, rationalise, update application sets, and move to application integration solutions." While I'm surprised this didn't happen a while ago, it's a pity they don't state where C# and VB.NET falls into this as well as Java.


            Look at the world about you and trust to your own convictions. - Ansel Adams
            Meg's World - Blog Photography

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            SimonS
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            I kind of agree, but there is quite a lot of Java already in the "enterprise", so it makes sense. What .NET needs to compete with the Java mind set is a viable port of JBoss and a more solid IDE from MS. Having a decent free IDE would also be great. If the free IDE's don't have support for debugging, then I can't see it getting used by any serious developer. Maybe the standard edition tools in Whidbey will fill this gap. Just not sure how limited they are going to be. Cheers, Simon sig ::
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            • S sfawcett

              Hey guys, Can any coders/developers in South Africa give me an idea of an ok monthly salary? (im going to be working in Durban) thanks Scott

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              Nic Rowan
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              It all depends on a lot of things. People in Durban get paid differently to people in CT and Jhb. Depends on the language and how experienced you are in it as well.


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              • D David Stone

                Since when is CP a less-fortunate country? :rolleyes:


                Quantum materiae materietur marmota monax si marmota monax materiam possit materiari?

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                Paul Watson
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                You've never been to our beautiful country, have you? Everywhere is less fortunate than South Africa ;) Rah rah South Africa! Give me a S, give me an A *bang* Seriously, you should see the view out of my window this morning. regards, Paul Watson South Africa The Code Project Pope Pius II said "The only prescription is more cowbell. "

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                • M Megan Forbes

                  That would be extremely difficult to answer without knowing your experience/skills details :) If you don't want to give us that info however you could have a look at Career Junction[^] or Google for other SA job sites and have a look around at what is being offered.


                  Look at the world about you and trust to your own convictions. - Ansel Adams
                  Meg's World - Blog Photography

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                  6 years VB 2 Years C# SQL Server/Oracle some C++/C currently finishing off a telemedicine app with video conferencing + digital camera automation, directx medical device displays, tcp and udp data transfer engines (everythings encrypted in real time), medical device interfaces (all this and more written in c#) me as the sole developer on the project... So is 15k a month a crap salary for me in Durban?

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                  • P Paul Watson

                    You've never been to our beautiful country, have you? Everywhere is less fortunate than South Africa ;) Rah rah South Africa! Give me a S, give me an A *bang* Seriously, you should see the view out of my window this morning. regards, Paul Watson South Africa The Code Project Pope Pius II said "The only prescription is more cowbell. "

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                    Brian Delahunty
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                    Paul Watson wrote: Everywhere is less fortunate than South Africa Except Ireland of course! :-> Regards, Brian Dela :-) Now Bloging![^]

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                    • S sfawcett

                      Hey guys, Can any coders/developers in South Africa give me an idea of an ok monthly salary? (im going to be working in Durban) thanks Scott

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                      KaRl
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                      We are even crumbling under the huge number of them. :rolleyes:


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                        6 years VB 2 Years C# SQL Server/Oracle some C++/C currently finishing off a telemedicine app with video conferencing + digital camera automation, directx medical device displays, tcp and udp data transfer engines (everythings encrypted in real time), medical device interfaces (all this and more written in c#) me as the sole developer on the project... So is 15k a month a crap salary for me in Durban?

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                        Megan Forbes
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                        Sorry Scott - I should have said add this info to your original post :). I'm currently working in the UK, so not the best person to ask - even worse as I've never worked in Durbs (each area of SA seems to vary salary wise). It's possible more people will see your description in your original post than in your reply to me :).


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                        • K KaRl

                          We are even crumbling under the huge number of them. :rolleyes:


                          Fold With Us! What a sad world it would be if everyone said and did only what was easy - Shog9

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                          Megan Forbes
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                          K(arl) wrote: We are even crumbling under the huge number of them [best borg voice]Resistance is futile![/best borg voice] :rolleyes:


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                            K(arl) wrote: We are even crumbling under the huge number of them [best borg voice]Resistance is futile![/best borg voice] :rolleyes:


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                            KaRl
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                            Scary![^] :-D


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                              David Stone wrote: Since when is CP a less-fortunate country? Since when is CP a country? :rolleyes:

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                              David Wulff
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                              Since 20th October 1999[^] ;P


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                                David Stone wrote: Since when is CP a less-fortunate country? Since when is CP a country? :rolleyes:

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                                David Stone
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                                Since when is CP a country? :omg: What?! How dare you say that! Iiiiiinfidelllllllllll! ;P


                                Quantum materiae materietur marmota monax si marmota monax materiam possit materiari?

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                                  You've never been to our beautiful country, have you? Everywhere is less fortunate than South Africa ;) Rah rah South Africa! Give me a S, give me an A *bang* Seriously, you should see the view out of my window this morning. regards, Paul Watson South Africa The Code Project Pope Pius II said "The only prescription is more cowbell. "

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                                  Jeremy Falcon
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                                  Paul Watson wrote: You've never been to our beautiful country, have you? Everywhere is less fortunate than South Africa I have to agree. I've seen your photos and the scenery is just awesome. Jeremy Falcon

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                                    Hey guys, Can any coders/developers in South Africa give me an idea of an ok monthly salary? (im going to be working in Durban) thanks Scott

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                                    Lost User
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                                    It's pronounced "Seff Effriken" :rolleyes: The tigress is here :-D

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