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  • C Chris Losinger

    Toasty0 wrote: I enjoy the humor of Ann Coulter "My only regret with Timothy McVeigh is he did not go to the New York Times Building" Ann is a first class cunt. Image Toolkits | Image Processing | Cleek

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    Chris Losinger wrote: Ann is a first class c***. Wow, it's been a long time since I've heard anyone refer to any woman in that way. Since grade school I think. You're one helluva a class act, dude. He said this was like painstakingly assembling the first layer of a house of cards, then boasting that the next 15,000 layers were a mere formality.--The Code Book, pp. 331 Toasty0.com DotNetGroup.org

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      Toasty0 wrote: Sometimes Noam forgets humanities nature-of-the-beast when building his observations and arguments. He sometimes roots his arguments in utopic templates that make for seductive reasoning but ultimately reach unrealistic conclusions. Do you refer to his comments about current world events, or his ideas of a future better world? Perhaps both? I find him to have a sharp intellect, a lot of knowledge about historic and contemporary events, and he often surprise me with interesting conclusions that are hard to contradict. Regards, Björn Morén Stockholm, Sweden

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      bjoernen wrote: I find him to have a sharp intellect, a lot of knowledge about historic and contemporary events, and he often surprise me with interesting conclusions that are hard to contradict. Exactly. It isn't that his logic is flawed per se, but to accept his conclusion(s) one must first accept his logical foundations. It is those foundations that I believe are sometimes rooted in a premise that are, to my mind, failures to accept humanities base desires and motivations. Jerry He said this was like painstakingly assembling the first layer of a house of cards, then boasting that the next 15,000 layers were a mere formality.--The Code Book, pp. 331 Toasty0.com DotNetGroup.org

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      • J Jerry Hammond

        Chris Losinger wrote: Ann is a first class c***. Wow, it's been a long time since I've heard anyone refer to any woman in that way. Since grade school I think. You're one helluva a class act, dude. He said this was like painstakingly assembling the first layer of a house of cards, then boasting that the next 15,000 layers were a mere formality.--The Code Book, pp. 331 Toasty0.com DotNetGroup.org

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        Toasty0 wrote: You're one helluva a class act, dude. yeah, that means a lot coming from someone who thinks Ann "blow up the NYT" Coulter is funny. maybe if i'd said "the only way to talk to libruls is with a baseball bat" or "we need to execute people like John Walker in order to physically intimidate liberals, by making them realize that they can be killed, too. Otherwise, they will turn out to be outright traitors," you'd have a better opinion of me. Image Toolkits | Image Processing | Cleek

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          What do you think about Noam Chomsky and his opinions? Regards, Björn Morén Stockholm, Sweden

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          bjoernen wrote: What do you think about Noam Chomsky and his opinions? He is our real president. :) Later, JoeSox Word of the Day: eschew http://dictionary.reference.com/wordoftheday/ CPMCv1.0 ↔ humanaiproject.org ↔ joeswammi.com/sinfest

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          • C Chris Losinger

            don't know anything about his political writing, though i'm told he represents me and that i'm responsible for every thing he says. from what i've read, his reputation as a linguist is a pretty strong one, though his theories are falling out of favor these days. Image Toolkits | Image Processing | Cleek

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            Chris Losinger wrote: don't know anything about his political writing, I like how he breaks down the world's power structure and relate's it to the past. I recommend a DVD (Power and Terror: Noam Chomsky in Our Times (2002)) that has him giving a speech at some University. It's informative to say the least. Chris Losinger wrote: though his theories are falling out of favor these days. If they have fallen out of favor than whose are in favor these days? Later, JoeSox Word of the Day: eschew http://dictionary.reference.com/wordoftheday/ CPMCv1.0 ↔ humanaiproject.org ↔ joeswammi.com/sinfest

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            • C Chris Losinger

              Toasty0 wrote: I enjoy the humor of Ann Coulter "My only regret with Timothy McVeigh is he did not go to the New York Times Building" Ann is a first class cunt. Image Toolkits | Image Processing | Cleek

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              Jorgen Sigvardsson
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              You forgot "skanky". :) -- My name in Katakana is ヨルゲン. My name in German is Jörgen. My name in Mandarin/Kanji is 乔尔根 西格瓦德森. I blog too now[^]

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              • J JoeSox

                bjoernen wrote: What do you think about Noam Chomsky and his opinions? He is our real president. :) Later, JoeSox Word of the Day: eschew http://dictionary.reference.com/wordoftheday/ CPMCv1.0 ↔ humanaiproject.org ↔ joeswammi.com/sinfest

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                Jorgen Sigvardsson
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                Illuminati. -- My name in Katakana is ヨルゲン. My name in German is Jörgen. My name in Mandarin/Kanji is 乔尔根 西格瓦德森. I blog too now[^]

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                  What do you think about Noam Chomsky and his opinions? Regards, Björn Morén Stockholm, Sweden

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                  He's a good read. If they put his essays on the Opinion page of the local paper, i'd probably read it more often. I wouldn't care to make any general statements of agreement/disagreement though. Let's just leave it as "more entertaining than 'Friends', on par with 'Seinfeld'"... ;)

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                  • J JoeSox

                    Chris Losinger wrote: don't know anything about his political writing, I like how he breaks down the world's power structure and relate's it to the past. I recommend a DVD (Power and Terror: Noam Chomsky in Our Times (2002)) that has him giving a speech at some University. It's informative to say the least. Chris Losinger wrote: though his theories are falling out of favor these days. If they have fallen out of favor than whose are in favor these days? Later, JoeSox Word of the Day: eschew http://dictionary.reference.com/wordoftheday/ CPMCv1.0 ↔ humanaiproject.org ↔ joeswammi.com/sinfest

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                    JoeSox wrote: If they have fallen out of favor than whose are in favor these days? really can't say. i'm not into the kind of hard core linguistics where he did his work, but on almost all discussions i've read on him, it always comes up that "...his theory on XYZ doesn't make sense in light of ____" or "his theories on PDQ were interesting at the time, but now linguists think more along the lines of ____". and that's the extent of my knowledge on Chomsky :) mostly i know that, as someone who votes to the left of John McCain, everything Chomksy has ever said on any political matter is my burden to bear - his ideas are my ideas, his opinions mine, his statements mine. in that sense, he's like Michael Moore or that professor from that college i'd never heard of who said something dumb three years ago and now represents the pure crystallized essence of what it means to be a Democrat. or something. fuckin hate politics today. Image Toolkits | Image Processing | Cleek

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                    • J Jorgen Sigvardsson

                      Illuminati. -- My name in Katakana is ヨルゲン. My name in German is Jörgen. My name in Mandarin/Kanji is 乔尔根 西格瓦德森. I blog too now[^]

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                      Jörgen Sigvardsson wrote: Illuminati. I was being facetious but I kinda wish he was our President, on some intellectual level. At least he actually knows how to speak our nation's language. Are you saying that Chomsky is a person claiming to be unusually enlightened with regard to a subject? It doesn't matter if he is or not, imo. His opinions are interesting to listen too and he does have some books out and teaches at a University. He can't be worse than Moore. Moore just makes movies. Later, JoeSox Word of the Day: eschew http://dictionary.reference.com/wordoftheday/ CPMCv1.0 ↔ humanaiproject.org ↔ joeswammi.com/sinfest

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                      • B bjoernen

                        What do you think about Noam Chomsky and his opinions? Regards, Björn Morén Stockholm, Sweden

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                        He's typical of the white self-loathing of the far left. ----------------------------------------------------- Empires Of Steel[^]

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                          Jörgen Sigvardsson wrote: Illuminati. I was being facetious but I kinda wish he was our President, on some intellectual level. At least he actually knows how to speak our nation's language. Are you saying that Chomsky is a person claiming to be unusually enlightened with regard to a subject? It doesn't matter if he is or not, imo. His opinions are interesting to listen too and he does have some books out and teaches at a University. He can't be worse than Moore. Moore just makes movies. Later, JoeSox Word of the Day: eschew http://dictionary.reference.com/wordoftheday/ CPMCv1.0 ↔ humanaiproject.org ↔ joeswammi.com/sinfest

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                          JoeSox wrote: He can't be worse than Moore. The thought of Moore as Prez just sent a cold shiver down my spine... :~

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                          • C Chris Losinger

                            Toasty0 wrote: I enjoy the humor of Ann Coulter "My only regret with Timothy McVeigh is he did not go to the New York Times Building" Ann is a first class cunt. Image Toolkits | Image Processing | Cleek

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                            Chris Losinger wrote: Ann is a first class c***. Some people like to pay good money for access to one of those. ;) BW


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                              He's typical of the white self-loathing of the far left. ----------------------------------------------------- Empires Of Steel[^]

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                              He's also Jewish - so that puts a wrinkle in your theory.

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                                JoeSox wrote: He can't be worse than Moore. The thought of Moore as Prez just sent a cold shiver down my spine... :~

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                                What happens when that cold shiver meets the cold shiver going up your spine at the thought of 4 more years of George Bush? :laugh:

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                                  What happens when that cold shiver meets the cold shiver going up your spine at the thought of 4 more years of George Bush? :laugh:

                                  I contend that we are both atheists. I just believe in one fewer god than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours. ~Stephen Roberts

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                                  I pretty much resigned myself to that feeling when Kerry was selected as the Dem's candidate... :sigh:

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                                  • J JoeSox

                                    Jörgen Sigvardsson wrote: Illuminati. I was being facetious but I kinda wish he was our President, on some intellectual level. At least he actually knows how to speak our nation's language. Are you saying that Chomsky is a person claiming to be unusually enlightened with regard to a subject? It doesn't matter if he is or not, imo. His opinions are interesting to listen too and he does have some books out and teaches at a University. He can't be worse than Moore. Moore just makes movies. Later, JoeSox Word of the Day: eschew http://dictionary.reference.com/wordoftheday/ CPMCv1.0 ↔ humanaiproject.org ↔ joeswammi.com/sinfest

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                                    JoeSox wrote: Are you saying that Chomsky is a person claiming to be unusually enlightened with regard to a subject? No, I'm just being a smartass. :) I'm not really sure where Chomsky stands politically, but from a computer science and linguistic point of view, he has contributed a lot. I know he pisses the staunchest right wingers off, so he must be doing something good. ;) -- My name in Katakana is ヨルゲン. My name in German is Jörgen. My name in Mandarin/Kanji is 乔尔根 西格瓦德森. I blog too now[^]

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                                      Chris Losinger wrote: Ann is a first class c***. Some people like to pay good money for access to one of those. ;) BW


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                                      Jorgen Sigvardsson
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                                      She's now been downgraded to just cunt. ;) -- My name in Katakana is ヨルゲン. My name in German is Jörgen. My name in Mandarin/Kanji is 乔尔根 西格瓦德森. I blog too now[^]

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                                        JoeSox wrote: Are you saying that Chomsky is a person claiming to be unusually enlightened with regard to a subject? No, I'm just being a smartass. :) I'm not really sure where Chomsky stands politically, but from a computer science and linguistic point of view, he has contributed a lot. I know he pisses the staunchest right wingers off, so he must be doing something good. ;) -- My name in Katakana is ヨルゲン. My name in German is Jörgen. My name in Mandarin/Kanji is 乔尔根 西格瓦德森. I blog too now[^]

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                                        Jörgen Sigvardsson wrote: I know he pisses the staunchest right wingers off, so he must be doing something good. :) Later, JoeSox Word of the Day: eschew http://dictionary.reference.com/wordoftheday/ CPMCv1.0 ↔ humanaiproject.org ↔ joeswammi.com/sinfest

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                                          He's also Jewish - so that puts a wrinkle in your theory.

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                                          I consider most Jews to be culturally white - i.e. they're heavily influenced by white Western culture, political thought, and economic systems. This does not apply to very religious Jews, nor Jews who have been raised in other areas (such as the Middle East or China). ----------------------------------------------------- Empires Of Steel[^]

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