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    Tom Archer
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    Does anyone know of a free site where I can determine if the work given to me on a documentation effort was plagiarized from a Web site? * WCopyFind - Only compares local files * Turnitin (and a few others) requires that you pay before you can even test the app Cheers, Tom Archer - Archer Consulting Group Programmer Trainer and Mentor and Project Management Consultant

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      Does anyone know of a free site where I can determine if the work given to me on a documentation effort was plagiarized from a Web site? * WCopyFind - Only compares local files * Turnitin (and a few others) requires that you pay before you can even test the app Cheers, Tom Archer - Archer Consulting Group Programmer Trainer and Mentor and Project Management Consultant

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      ProffK
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      I am fully in support of any anti-plagiarism efforts. However, if the documentation being checked is non-academic and it can be plagiarised, i.e. it has been done before, isn't the effort redundant? His hands felt the grasp of strong white hairs, and he knew he would not survive this fungus.

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        Does anyone know of a free site where I can determine if the work given to me on a documentation effort was plagiarized from a Web site? * WCopyFind - Only compares local files * Turnitin (and a few others) requires that you pay before you can even test the app Cheers, Tom Archer - Archer Consulting Group Programmer Trainer and Mentor and Project Management Consultant

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        krism42
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        If you suspect someone has plagarized something, the do a quick google with a unique bit of the work. Automation wise, ... use the web service. Maybe not only google, but MSN, yahoo, too.

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          If you suspect someone has plagarized something, the do a quick google with a unique bit of the work. Automation wise, ... use the web service. Maybe not only google, but MSN, yahoo, too.

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          Tom Archer
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          Yep. We've done that. However, here's the problem. We hired this person through an agency. Therefore, it would be much better if we could go back to the agency with hard numbers - like "85% of this documentation came form the following domains". Manually checking each of the files and then performing that level of work isn't cost efficient, but not doing anything lets this person walk away with our money when he's done work that I can't give to my client. Cheers, Tom Archer - Archer Consulting Group Programmer Trainer and Mentor and Project Management Consultant

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            I am fully in support of any anti-plagiarism efforts. However, if the documentation being checked is non-academic and it can be plagiarised, i.e. it has been done before, isn't the effort redundant? His hands felt the grasp of strong white hairs, and he knew he would not survive this fungus.

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            Tom Archer
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            I'm not sure what your asking. However, my situation is that I've paid a contractor (documentation person) to do work for a client of mine and through some googling it appears to be plagiarized work. If it is, then not only have I been ripped off, but it's certainly not something I want associated withmy company or something I can turn around and give to my client. Therefore, I was hoping that someone here might know of a utility that would automate the checking. I actually don't mind paying for an app, but the ones I've located via google require that you buy them *before* you can even test them. (In this "digital age" day, I don't trust the "money back guarantee" promises.) Cheers, Tom Archer - Archer Consulting Group Programmer Trainer and Mentor and Project Management Consultant

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              I'm not sure what your asking. However, my situation is that I've paid a contractor (documentation person) to do work for a client of mine and through some googling it appears to be plagiarized work. If it is, then not only have I been ripped off, but it's certainly not something I want associated withmy company or something I can turn around and give to my client. Therefore, I was hoping that someone here might know of a utility that would automate the checking. I actually don't mind paying for an app, but the ones I've located via google require that you buy them *before* you can even test them. (In this "digital age" day, I don't trust the "money back guarantee" promises.) Cheers, Tom Archer - Archer Consulting Group Programmer Trainer and Mentor and Project Management Consultant

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              What I'm saying is that if the documentation exists in original form elsewhere, why not refer the client to that documentation? His hands felt the grasp of strong white hairs, and he knew he would not survive this fungus.

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                I'm not sure what your asking. However, my situation is that I've paid a contractor (documentation person) to do work for a client of mine and through some googling it appears to be plagiarized work. If it is, then not only have I been ripped off, but it's certainly not something I want associated withmy company or something I can turn around and give to my client. Therefore, I was hoping that someone here might know of a utility that would automate the checking. I actually don't mind paying for an app, but the ones I've located via google require that you buy them *before* you can even test them. (In this "digital age" day, I don't trust the "money back guarantee" promises.) Cheers, Tom Archer - Archer Consulting Group Programmer Trainer and Mentor and Project Management Consultant

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                Gizz
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                What if a CP-er was to knock one up real-quick-lke? :)

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                  Yep. We've done that. However, here's the problem. We hired this person through an agency. Therefore, it would be much better if we could go back to the agency with hard numbers - like "85% of this documentation came form the following domains". Manually checking each of the files and then performing that level of work isn't cost efficient, but not doing anything lets this person walk away with our money when he's done work that I can't give to my client. Cheers, Tom Archer - Archer Consulting Group Programmer Trainer and Mentor and Project Management Consultant

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                  krism42
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                  In that situation, I would let the gentleman go immediately, then divide the files up among four or so people, and have them get the numbers. I think it'll be hard for a program to determine if something truly is plagarism. :(

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                    What I'm saying is that if the documentation exists in original form elsewhere, why not refer the client to that documentation? His hands felt the grasp of strong white hairs, and he knew he would not survive this fungus.

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                    Because it's quite a lot of files that are stolen from many Web sites. I would like to be able to go back to the recruiter and state "XYZ app shows that x% of files were plagiarized from the following sites" instead of giving them a huge list of document/url pairs. Actually, I'd probably do the latter as well, but I'd like to have the former as a summary lead-in. Cheers, Tom Archer - Archer Consulting Group Programmer Trainer and Mentor and Project Management Consultant

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                      What if a CP-er was to knock one up real-quick-lke? :)

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                      When can you have it done ;P Cheers, Tom Archer - Archer Consulting Group Programmer Trainer and Mentor and Project Management Consultant

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                        Because it's quite a lot of files that are stolen from many Web sites. I would like to be able to go back to the recruiter and state "XYZ app shows that x% of files were plagiarized from the following sites" instead of giving them a huge list of document/url pairs. Actually, I'd probably do the latter as well, but I'd like to have the former as a summary lead-in. Cheers, Tom Archer - Archer Consulting Group Programmer Trainer and Mentor and Project Management Consultant

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                        Whatever the logic, if the person stole work he or she should be exposed. I wish you success in the endevour. His hands felt the grasp of strong white hairs, and he knew he would not survive this fungus.

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                          Yep. We've done that. However, here's the problem. We hired this person through an agency. Therefore, it would be much better if we could go back to the agency with hard numbers - like "85% of this documentation came form the following domains". Manually checking each of the files and then performing that level of work isn't cost efficient, but not doing anything lets this person walk away with our money when he's done work that I can't give to my client. Cheers, Tom Archer - Archer Consulting Group Programmer Trainer and Mentor and Project Management Consultant

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                          Tom Archer wrote: go back to the agency with hard numbers - like "85% of this documentation came form the following domains". I really don't think the numbers are important here, Tom. If it's stolen work without proper reference then any of it should be grounds for disolving the contract. I'm not sure of the legal implications, but IMO it's bottom-line unethical. ~Nitron.


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                            Does anyone know of a free site where I can determine if the work given to me on a documentation effort was plagiarized from a Web site? * WCopyFind - Only compares local files * Turnitin (and a few others) requires that you pay before you can even test the app Cheers, Tom Archer - Archer Consulting Group Programmer Trainer and Mentor and Project Management Consultant

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                            What made you suspect plagiarism in the first place? Jerry He said this was like painstakingly assembling the first layer of a house of cards, then boasting that the next 15,000 layers were a mere formality.--The Code Book, pp. 331 Toasty0.com DotNetGroup.org

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                              Does anyone know of a free site where I can determine if the work given to me on a documentation effort was plagiarized from a Web site? * WCopyFind - Only compares local files * Turnitin (and a few others) requires that you pay before you can even test the app Cheers, Tom Archer - Archer Consulting Group Programmer Trainer and Mentor and Project Management Consultant

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                              What about WinDiff? :-D :-D The generation of random numbers is too important to be left to chance.

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                                What made you suspect plagiarism in the first place? Jerry He said this was like painstakingly assembling the first layer of a house of cards, then boasting that the next 15,000 layers were a mere formality.--The Code Book, pp. 331 Toasty0.com DotNetGroup.org

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                                Toasty0 wrote: What made you suspect plagiarism in the first place? He had not used a template that we provided to ensure consistency so we asked him to go back and do that. He became extremely upset arguing about how he saw that template as only a "guideline" and such. (Sure. Like we would provide 3 examples - all exactly the same format - as a "guideline") Anyway, during the course of our discussions, it became apparent that his english grammar and verbiage were not consistent with his work. That's when I googled a couple of passages and voila. Not only was the text stolen verbatim, but the format as well. (Not at least I know why he didn't use my format; he was simply copying and pasting the contents from the original site.) Cheers, Tom Archer - Archer Consulting Group Programmer Trainer and Mentor and Project Management Consultant

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                                  What about WinDiff? :-D :-D The generation of random numbers is too important to be left to chance.

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                                  Tom Archer
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                                  That would be great if windiff would search the internet and compare only the relevant portions of the documents to our documents and produce a meaningful report that I could give a manager ;P Cheers, Tom Archer - Archer Consulting Group Programmer Trainer and Mentor and Project Management Consultant

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                                    Does anyone know of a free site where I can determine if the work given to me on a documentation effort was plagiarized from a Web site? * WCopyFind - Only compares local files * Turnitin (and a few others) requires that you pay before you can even test the app Cheers, Tom Archer - Archer Consulting Group Programmer Trainer and Mentor and Project Management Consultant

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                                    It sounds like you already know the truth. If you take this to the man's employers, they'll probably either try and help him bs his way out of it (implying that they were at least complicit in this act), or take any suspicions very seriously (after all, this reflects pretty badly on them). Unless you plan on taking them to court, i don't see that you need a huge amount of evidence - one or two large bits of text should be damning enough.

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                                      It sounds like you already know the truth. If you take this to the man's employers, they'll probably either try and help him bs his way out of it (implying that they were at least complicit in this act), or take any suspicions very seriously (after all, this reflects pretty badly on them). Unless you plan on taking them to court, i don't see that you need a huge amount of evidence - one or two large bits of text should be damning enough.

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                                      Tom Archer
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                                      Probably, but I've always been a fan of "overwhelming firepower". Go in with much more than you need just to be safe. Cheers, Tom Archer - Archer Consulting Group Programmer Trainer and Mentor and Project Management Consultant

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                                        Probably, but I've always been a fan of "overwhelming firepower". Go in with much more than you need just to be safe. Cheers, Tom Archer - Archer Consulting Group Programmer Trainer and Mentor and Project Management Consultant

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                                        It strikes me that this might be an interesting project to use one of the search APIs... What kind of duplication are we talking about here? Straight copy-pasting of large blocks of text? Or is there significant paraphrasing / large amounts of text transitioning between plagiarised blocks?

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                                          Does anyone know of a free site where I can determine if the work given to me on a documentation effort was plagiarized from a Web site? * WCopyFind - Only compares local files * Turnitin (and a few others) requires that you pay before you can even test the app Cheers, Tom Archer - Archer Consulting Group Programmer Trainer and Mentor and Project Management Consultant

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                                          Tom, Check out CopyScape[^] HTH -- Edward Livingston (aka ExtraLean) -- "I still maintain that seeing a nipple is far less disturbing than seeing someone get their brains blown out." -- Chris Maunder

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