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    Is this true? http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/4328445.stm[^]

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      Is this true? http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/4328445.stm[^]

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      Vikram A Punathambekar
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      John Theal wrote: Is this true? Yes. I saw it in the local papers. Please don't misinterpret this, but doesn't the BBC strike you as a respectable source of information? :) Vikram.


      http://www.geocities.com/vpunathambekar "Argue for your limitations, and sure enough, they're yours." – Richard Bach, "Illusions". "I think the internet has been online for too long." – Joesox.

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        Is this true? http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/4328445.stm[^]

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        yup. i heard about that a long time ago, and recently i saw an article on a south african news site about the "Tshwane Metropolitan Municipality" -- Raoul Snyman Saturn Laboratories e-mail: raoul.snyman@saturnlaboratories.co.za web: http://www.saturnlaboratories.co.za/ blog: http://blog.saturnlaboratories.co.za/ linux user: #333298

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          Is this true? http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/4328445.stm[^]

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          from the article: The opposition Democratic Alliance, which has strong support among whites, said the 1.5 billion rand ($256m) the switch would cost would be better spent on improving services. hmmm... i would have to agree with this... if they took that money and put it into building housing for those without, at ZAR50 000 per house (they're tiny, but at least they're a decent roof over someone's head), that would house 30 000 families. -- Raoul Snyman Saturn Laboratories e-mail: raoul.snyman@saturnlaboratories.co.za web: http://www.saturnlaboratories.co.za/ blog: http://blog.saturnlaboratories.co.za/ linux user: #333298

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            Is this true? http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/4328445.stm[^]

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            Yes, it is true. Many towns, dams, airports, roads and other areas have been renamed already. The provinces (states/counties) were also renamed and rearranged ("Orange Free State" became "Free State" I assume because of the Dutch connotations of Orange. Transvaal was split and named into Gauteng and Mpumalanga etc.) I also think the money could be better spent. regards, Paul Watson South Africa The Code Project Pope Pius II said "The only prescription is more cowbell. "

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              Yes, it is true. Many towns, dams, airports, roads and other areas have been renamed already. The provinces (states/counties) were also renamed and rearranged ("Orange Free State" became "Free State" I assume because of the Dutch connotations of Orange. Transvaal was split and named into Gauteng and Mpumalanga etc.) I also think the money could be better spent. regards, Paul Watson South Africa The Code Project Pope Pius II said "The only prescription is more cowbell. "

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              Paul Watson wrote: I also think the money could be better spent. I think it would be interesting to see a cost analysis of such action. As a case in point, I would love to see the cost for official bilingualism in Canada. There is some debate as to whether the government has ever released the true figure... John Theal Physicist at Large Got CAD? http://www.presenter3d.com[^]

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                Paul Watson wrote: I also think the money could be better spent. I think it would be interesting to see a cost analysis of such action. As a case in point, I would love to see the cost for official bilingualism in Canada. There is some debate as to whether the government has ever released the true figure... John Theal Physicist at Large Got CAD? http://www.presenter3d.com[^]

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                The cost of the exercise will be quite widely distributed across the economy, in same areas generating work and income, but generating expenses in others. Bilingual? We have eleven official languages in SA. His hands felt the grasp of strong white hairs, and he knew he would not survive this fungus.

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                  The cost of the exercise will be quite widely distributed across the economy, in same areas generating work and income, but generating expenses in others. Bilingual? We have eleven official languages in SA. His hands felt the grasp of strong white hairs, and he knew he would not survive this fungus.

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                  Is all your signage and government documents printed in all 11 languages? John Theal Physicist at Large Got CAD? http://www.presenter3d.com[^]

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                    The cost of the exercise will be quite widely distributed across the economy, in same areas generating work and income, but generating expenses in others. Bilingual? We have eleven official languages in SA. His hands felt the grasp of strong white hairs, and he knew he would not survive this fungus.

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                    And I thought 3 was a lot :doh:. No hurries, no worries.

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                      The cost of the exercise will be quite widely distributed across the economy, in same areas generating work and income, but generating expenses in others. Bilingual? We have eleven official languages in SA. His hands felt the grasp of strong white hairs, and he knew he would not survive this fungus.

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                      Vikram A Punathambekar
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                      ProffK wrote: We have eleven official languages in SA. Last I remember reading, we had 18 languages. :omg: Just curious, but how many of the 11 official are Indian? :) Vikram.


                      http://www.geocities.com/vpunathambekar "Argue for your limitations, and sure enough, they're yours." – Richard Bach, "Illusions". "I think the internet has been online for too long." – Joesox.

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                        Is all your signage and government documents printed in all 11 languages? John Theal Physicist at Large Got CAD? http://www.presenter3d.com[^]

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                        Signage is still mainly in English and Afrikaans, and government documents English only. His hands felt the grasp of strong white hairs, and he knew he would not survive this fungus.

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                          ProffK wrote: We have eleven official languages in SA. Last I remember reading, we had 18 languages. :omg: Just curious, but how many of the 11 official are Indian? :) Vikram.


                          http://www.geocities.com/vpunathambekar "Argue for your limitations, and sure enough, they're yours." – Richard Bach, "Illusions". "I think the internet has been online for too long." – Joesox.

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                          None. They are Sepedi, Sesotho, Setswana, siSwati, Tshivenda, Xitsonga, Afrikaans, English, isiNdebele, isiXhosa and isiZulu. However, Section 6 (Languages) of the constitution promotes other languages as follows: A Pan South African Language Board established by national legislation must ­ 1. promote, and create conditions for, the development and use of ­ a. all official languages; b. the Khoi, Nama and San languages; and c. sign language ; and 2. promote and ensure respect for ­ a. all languages commonly used by communities in South Africa, including German, Greek, Gujarati, Hindi, Portuguese, Tamil, Telegu and Urdu; and b. Arabic, Hebrew, Sanskrit and other languages used for religious purposes in South Africa. His hands felt the grasp of strong white hairs, and he knew he would not survive this fungus.

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                            Paul Watson wrote: I also think the money could be better spent. I think it would be interesting to see a cost analysis of such action. As a case in point, I would love to see the cost for official bilingualism in Canada. There is some debate as to whether the government has ever released the true figure... John Theal Physicist at Large Got CAD? http://www.presenter3d.com[^]

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                            John Theal wrote: official bilingualism in Canada Hasn't happened. I work for municipal government in the ONLY official officially bilingual province in Canada. (oops) Top 10 Geek Resulutions: 5. To decipher what that big room is, which has the blue ceiling and poor climate control.

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                              Is this true? http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/4328445.stm[^]

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                              FlyingTinman
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                              Pretoria was named after Andries Pretorius, a folk hero of the Afrikaner group, which set up apartheid.

                              Andries Pretorius, 1798-1853 Apartheid, 1948-1994 He was a general in the Zulu wars long before apartheid was established. I agree colonization may have a bad rep but most developed countries were doing it then, and morally it was a far cry from the apartheid system that was established nearly a century after Pretorius's death. I fully agree with, say, renaming of places like Verwoedburg (though what the heck kind of a name is "Centurion"?) and John Vorster Square, named for the founding fathers of apartheid, but I think Pretorius was in a different moral league. And anyway Dingane whooped a lot of Boer and Brit ass and killed his buddy, Piet Retief, before Andries got involved in the fray ;-) Steve T

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