Survey: Do you drive an SUV?
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For those of you who own a 4-wheeled vehicle (or drive one on a regular basis), please vote: 1 = I drive a SUV/truck 5 = I drive something else /ravi My new year's resolution: 2048 x 1536 Home | Articles | Freeware | Music ravib@ravib.com
Nope. My car is simply a commuter vehicle, so driving a big a** SUV would be a complete and utter waste of gas and money for me. When I get to the point where I actually NEED one, for say, hauling around really big dogs and a pair of jet ski's (:-D), THEN I'll buy one, but not just because it "looks cool". Kyosa Jamie Nordmeyer - Taekwondo Yi (2nd) Dan Portland, Oregon, USA
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No, and I doubt I ever will. :) /ravi My new year's resolution: 2048 x 1536 Home | Articles | Freeware | Music ravib@ravib.com
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Just wondering what you're hoping to get out of this. :confused: BW
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-- Stewie GriffinMost software engineers I know are of the view that driving an SUV (other than for true off-roading) is highly illogical. I was curious where the larger community of CPians stood. /ravi My new year's resolution: 2048 x 1536 Home | Articles | Freeware | Music ravib@ravib.com
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Steve Mayfield wrote: I had a SUV plow into the driver's side of my nice car a few years ago No, a driver in an SUV plowed into the side of your car. I know it's just symantics, however I believe that there has been an attempt to demonize the SUV in the media. It is like the SUV has a mind of it's own and the mind is evil. Just yesterday, 4 Die When SUV Hits Las Vegas Bus Bench[^]. It is only when you read the story that you find out that someone was actually driving the thing and that she may had been under the influence of something. Of course, these are just my observations over the past few years...nothing scientific about it. :) Gary Kirkham Forever Forgiven and Alive in the Spirit He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain what he cannot lose. - Jim Elliot Me blog, You read
I only half agree with you. SUVs are DIFFERENT from regular automobiles - yet no special license, training, etc. is really in place for people who buy them. So you get a lot of people who don't really know how to drive them, but do anyway. Also, SUVs are not always designed to be friendly towards other automobiles... their lights and bumpers are higher, for instance. The generation of random numbers is too important to be left to chance.
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Most software engineers I know are of the view that driving an SUV (other than for true off-roading) is highly illogical. I was curious where the larger community of CPians stood. /ravi My new year's resolution: 2048 x 1536 Home | Articles | Freeware | Music ravib@ravib.com
Ravi Bhavnani wrote: Most software engineers I know are of the view that driving an SUV (other than for true off-roading) is highly illogical. True, since they stink at fuel efficiency, and the need for 4WD is rare in most parts.
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I only half agree with you. SUVs are DIFFERENT from regular automobiles - yet no special license, training, etc. is really in place for people who buy them. So you get a lot of people who don't really know how to drive them, but do anyway. Also, SUVs are not always designed to be friendly towards other automobiles... their lights and bumpers are higher, for instance. The generation of random numbers is too important to be left to chance.
Navin wrote: SUVs are DIFFERENT from regular automobiles Navin wrote: SUVs are not always designed to be friendly towards other automobiles... their lights and bumpers are higher, for instance :doh: So are pick-up trucks. I don't see P/U trucks being demonized in the same way that SUV's are. I can only speculate about why this is so. P/U drivers - poor to middle class "working" people - Democrat base SUV drivers - middle to upper class professionals - Republican base Sorry to drag politics into this, but I suspect that it is one of the reasons behind the demonization. You can also throw gas consumption into the equation also. Gary Kirkham Forever Forgiven and Alive in the Spirit He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain what he cannot lose. - Jim Elliot Me blog, You read
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Nope. My car is simply a commuter vehicle, so driving a big a** SUV would be a complete and utter waste of gas and money for me. When I get to the point where I actually NEED one, for say, hauling around really big dogs and a pair of jet ski's (:-D), THEN I'll buy one, but not just because it "looks cool". Kyosa Jamie Nordmeyer - Taekwondo Yi (2nd) Dan Portland, Oregon, USA
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For those of you who own a 4-wheeled vehicle (or drive one on a regular basis), please vote: 1 = I drive a SUV/truck 5 = I drive something else /ravi My new year's resolution: 2048 x 1536 Home | Articles | Freeware | Music ravib@ravib.com
So, do you think if I own Audi TT Quattro or Subaru Impreza WRX STi (4 wheeled wehicles) I should say I own a truck or SUV? Maybe you also consider Lamborghini Murcielago or Bugatti Veyron as SUVs or trucks because they are all wheel drive cars? Not all 4WD/AWD cars are Toyota Landcruiser/Ford Explorer, please make your mind and pool quiz clear. gnk
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So, do you think if I own Audi TT Quattro or Subaru Impreza WRX STi (4 wheeled wehicles) I should say I own a truck or SUV? Maybe you also consider Lamborghini Murcielago or Bugatti Veyron as SUVs or trucks because they are all wheel drive cars? Not all 4WD/AWD cars are Toyota Landcruiser/Ford Explorer, please make your mind and pool quiz clear. gnk
gnk wrote: please make your mind and pool quiz clear. Try reading carefully. You incorrectly assumed that "4 wheeled" == "4WD". "4 wheeled means" it has 4 wheels, and is meant to exclude bicycles, motorbikes and mopeds. /ravi My new year's resolution: 2048 x 1536 Home | Articles | Freeware | Music ravib@ravib.com
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For those of you who own a 4-wheeled vehicle (or drive one on a regular basis), please vote: 1 = I drive a SUV/truck 5 = I drive something else /ravi My new year's resolution: 2048 x 1536 Home | Articles | Freeware | Music ravib@ravib.com
Yes, I bought my current one, a GMC Jimmy, new in 1990. Right now I am dealing a new one, a 2005 GMC Jimmy[^]. What I like about them is their diversity. You can carry passengers with the back seat up, unlike pickups, and with the back seat down you can carry cargo. The 4x4 is great for going off road into the hills and being able to sleep in the back is handy as well. The fact that they look sharp (IMO) doesn't hurt either. That being said there is no way I would buy one of the bigger ones, if I wanted a house on wheels I would get a motor home.
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Most software engineers I know are of the view that driving an SUV (other than for true off-roading) is highly illogical. I was curious where the larger community of CPians stood. /ravi My new year's resolution: 2048 x 1536 Home | Articles | Freeware | Music ravib@ravib.com
The one I have is very comfortable and has lots of room in it which are our primary reasons for having it. It is quite handy when hauling amps and speakers to a gig or rehearsal for two or three guys in the band. We have two large dogs (Rhodesian Ridgebacks) that we like to take with us and they occupy a LOT of room. Last Thanksgiving we had six (human) adults and several cases of wine riding comfortably in it for a wine tasting expedition. We spend a lot of time in it driving to work and for various outings so comfort is something of a priority for us. Furthermore, it gets better gas mileage than nearly all conventional vehicles having similar hauling capacity and comfort. It seems to me that it would be illogical NOT to have it given how we use it.
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The one I have is very comfortable and has lots of room in it which are our primary reasons for having it. It is quite handy when hauling amps and speakers to a gig or rehearsal for two or three guys in the band. We have two large dogs (Rhodesian Ridgebacks) that we like to take with us and they occupy a LOT of room. Last Thanksgiving we had six (human) adults and several cases of wine riding comfortably in it for a wine tasting expedition. We spend a lot of time in it driving to work and for various outings so comfort is something of a priority for us. Furthermore, it gets better gas mileage than nearly all conventional vehicles having similar hauling capacity and comfort. It seems to me that it would be illogical NOT to have it given how we use it.
Rick York wrote: given how we use it Agreed. /ravi My new year's resolution: 2048 x 1536 Home | Articles | Freeware | Music ravib@ravib.com
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gnk wrote: please make your mind and pool quiz clear. Try reading carefully. You incorrectly assumed that "4 wheeled" == "4WD". "4 wheeled means" it has 4 wheels, and is meant to exclude bicycles, motorbikes and mopeds. /ravi My new year's resolution: 2048 x 1536 Home | Articles | Freeware | Music ravib@ravib.com
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All right, I read carefully, still it's a discrimination you excluded from the pool people who drive tanks! ;P gnk
:) /ravi My new year's resolution: 2048 x 1536 Home | Articles | Freeware | Music ravib@ravib.com
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The one I have is very comfortable and has lots of room in it which are our primary reasons for having it. It is quite handy when hauling amps and speakers to a gig or rehearsal for two or three guys in the band. We have two large dogs (Rhodesian Ridgebacks) that we like to take with us and they occupy a LOT of room. Last Thanksgiving we had six (human) adults and several cases of wine riding comfortably in it for a wine tasting expedition. We spend a lot of time in it driving to work and for various outings so comfort is something of a priority for us. Furthermore, it gets better gas mileage than nearly all conventional vehicles having similar hauling capacity and comfort. It seems to me that it would be illogical NOT to have it given how we use it.
I have no problem with people who actually 'use' an SUV. What irks me is when on my very slow 30 mile drive to work I see half a dozen Hummers with 1 person in it driving to work. Of course, I'm sure all the people driving in the HOV lane are irked that I am driving in a car all by myself when I could be car pooling...
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The one I have is very comfortable and has lots of room in it which are our primary reasons for having it. It is quite handy when hauling amps and speakers to a gig or rehearsal for two or three guys in the band. We have two large dogs (Rhodesian Ridgebacks) that we like to take with us and they occupy a LOT of room. Last Thanksgiving we had six (human) adults and several cases of wine riding comfortably in it for a wine tasting expedition. We spend a lot of time in it driving to work and for various outings so comfort is something of a priority for us. Furthermore, it gets better gas mileage than nearly all conventional vehicles having similar hauling capacity and comfort. It seems to me that it would be illogical NOT to have it given how we use it.
I own them for the same reasons - lots of room. I also do a lot of driving in the boonies and haul a boat ( 17 foot bass boat ) around. The FWD is nice to have in many situations. I get 15 MPG in the city and about 21 on the highway in my big SUV and 17 and 26 in my small one. It is also safer ( as the adds say what price do you put on safety ) due to better vision and if I do run into someone it will probably be smaller than I am. I have the front and side curtain airbags. If I didn't have the SUV I would have to have a pickup to replace it and the pickup will haul - at most - three adults and a small pet. Plus every time a friend of yours moves your vehicle ( and you if you can get conned ) is requested. Not so with the SUV. In bad weather and high winds it handles like a dream. If you can get one - get one. It just makes life simpler. Richard "Under certain circumstances, profanity provides a relief denied even to prayer --Mark Twain (1835 - 1910)
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The one I have is very comfortable and has lots of room in it which are our primary reasons for having it. It is quite handy when hauling amps and speakers to a gig or rehearsal for two or three guys in the band. We have two large dogs (Rhodesian Ridgebacks) that we like to take with us and they occupy a LOT of room. Last Thanksgiving we had six (human) adults and several cases of wine riding comfortably in it for a wine tasting expedition. We spend a lot of time in it driving to work and for various outings so comfort is something of a priority for us. Furthermore, it gets better gas mileage than nearly all conventional vehicles having similar hauling capacity and comfort. It seems to me that it would be illogical NOT to have it given how we use it.
Surely a mini-van would work just as well if not better for those needs. No mention of anything requireing 4-wheel drive. But the image! Agggh! A mini-van! :-( I'm so glad our local paragliding site owners insist on a 4x4 (with 4-wheel drive engaged) as a prerequisite to granting vehicular access: Here... Mission (PDF)^ And here, page 3, section VIII if you don't believe me ;-) ... Ed Levin (PDF)^ While the two highly regulated sites above would be easily accessible by regular car (in dry weather) many of our other non-local (read "less regulated") sites are virually inaccessible without 4-wheel drive. (edit .. not to mention : when I go snowboarding up at tahoe I would often have to get out in the freezing cold and put tire-chains on if I didn't have a 4x4 with all weather tires ) I have no trouble justifying my 4x4 Tacoma pick-up. Steve T
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Trying to relate the size of our applications to the size of our transportation??? Steve
That's just a myth...:rolleyes: BW
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Ravi Bhavnani wrote: Most software engineers I know are of the view that driving an SUV (other than for true off-roading) is highly illogical. True, since they stink at fuel efficiency, and the need for 4WD is rare in most parts.
"Opinions are neither right nor wrong. I cannot change your opinion. I can, however, change what influences your opinion." - David Crow
"most parts".. In many places around the world Snow is a big issue (as Texas is finding today ;) ) and 4WD is almost a requirement. Also, there is the capacity, which may not be used all the time, but it great to have when you need it. Nothing like trying to cram that new flat panel big screen into a VW bug ;) As for the true desire of this pole, I have seen many people with 4WDs (not just SUVs) that buy them just to say they have it. They take it off the road one time, find out they do not like the scratches and dings and keep it as a street vehicle from then on. This seems to be true for about any group of people from what I can see. I have known several coders that fall into this group that live in places which normally receive zero snow. As for fuel efficency, I do not have a 4WD SUV, but it is a touchy spot with me since there is sooooo much SUV bashing going on in the world today (and sometimes it true), but some SUVs actually do pretty good. My Explorer gets around 20 mpg in the city and around 25 on the highway. While this is not great milage compared to a something pulling 60 mpg, it is very good compared not many vehicles on the roads today. Rocky <>< All Kinds of Stuff[^]
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I own them for the same reasons - lots of room. I also do a lot of driving in the boonies and haul a boat ( 17 foot bass boat ) around. The FWD is nice to have in many situations. I get 15 MPG in the city and about 21 on the highway in my big SUV and 17 and 26 in my small one. It is also safer ( as the adds say what price do you put on safety ) due to better vision and if I do run into someone it will probably be smaller than I am. I have the front and side curtain airbags. If I didn't have the SUV I would have to have a pickup to replace it and the pickup will haul - at most - three adults and a small pet. Plus every time a friend of yours moves your vehicle ( and you if you can get conned ) is requested. Not so with the SUV. In bad weather and high winds it handles like a dream. If you can get one - get one. It just makes life simpler. Richard "Under certain circumstances, profanity provides a relief denied even to prayer --Mark Twain (1835 - 1910)
Richard Stringer wrote: I get 15 MPG in the city and about 21 on the highway in my big SUV and 17 and 26 in my small one. Egads, it's a good job fuel is so damned cheap over there. I get 50mpg out of my car and it still costs a fortune to run. :eek:
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