Only in america?
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Is this for real ? does US treat people like criminals if they play chess in a country under sanction?? for gods sake, in what way could that matter? arnt there other areas where they can use the time and money instead of chasing chess players? http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/4374811.stm[^] [EDIT] oke apparently the article was just updated and they added this section: The American exile angered many of his fellow countrymen when he went on Philippine radio on 11 September 2001, applauding the attacks on the US on that day and launching into an anti-Semitic diatribe. maybe that puts a different perspective on it... [/EDIT] //Roger
Take this garbage and shove it in the soapbox please. I come to be entertained and chat with people in the lounge, not to hear you ranting about the latest perceived slight to humanity by my country.
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Roger J wrote: Is this for real ? does US treat people like criminals if they play chess in a country under sanction?? Yes it's for real, and of course the ridiculous 'criminal because he played chess' strawman is exactly that. He entered a state-sponsored Chess tournament run by a country that was part of the communist block (who were about as big an enemy as you can ever have without an actual war), and accepted prize money and did the normal routine of photo-ops during and after the tourney. This was in direct violation of US laws at the time that said that no citizen was allowed to partake in business with any of the countries on the 'sh!t list'. Of course, this type of crime doesn't typically have a statute of limitations put on it, so of course the US is still going to try to enforce it. The situation is certainly exacerbated on account of the how totally cracked Fischer is. I'd be willing to bet whatever sentence he gets is far, far less than the typical type of sentence handed out to people who commit this same type of crime. -- Russell Morris "So, broccoli, mother says you're good for me... but I'm afraid I'm no good for you!" - Stewy
Yes. Although wasn't this after the fall of communism? I believe (I could be wrong, as I often am :-O ) that the sanctions were there because of the whole Bosnia and "ethnicl clensing" stuff going on at the time. The generation of random numbers is too important to be left to chance.
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Take this garbage and shove it in the soapbox please. I come to be entertained and chat with people in the lounge, not to hear you ranting about the latest perceived slight to humanity by my country.
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Where do you draw the line though in what matters and what does not matter in a sanctioned country? A high profile chess game could draw in money and unduely positive PR for a sanctioned country. They could put spin on it to weaken the sanctions. I don't always agree with sanctions but we should respect them. regards, Paul Watson South Africa The Code Project Gary Wheeler wrote: It's people like you that keep me heading for my big debut on CNN...
Paul Watson wrote: Where do you draw the line though in what matters and what does not matter in a sanctioned country? A high profile chess game could draw in money and unduely positive PR for a sanctioned country. They could put spin on it to weaken the sanctions. You draw the line in military/terrorist operations. Look Paul, when Stalin and his gangsters did this kind of thing in the cold war era every decent freedom-lover complained about it, and it was fair enough. Why should we behave the same way? I don't always agree with sanctions but we should respect them. Should the east berliners respect the Berlin Wall, too? :confused: Cheers, Rui A. Rebelo Computers are useless, they can only provide answers. Pablo Picasso
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Russell Morris wrote: partake in business I don't agree or disagree with this... but you said "partake in business".. entering a competition and winning it, whether it is state sponsored or not, is not business in my opinion. It is competition, plain and simple. Regards, Brian Dela :-) Now Bloging![^]
Brian Delahunty wrote: It is competition, plain and simple. I disagree. Knowingly seeking and getting money from a nation/state that is on the 'sh!t list' is just plain Not To Be Done. Especially if doing so becomes a PR coup for the nation/state. I think this is in stark contrast to stuff like the Olympics, which is a fundamentally international event that just switches host countries every 4 years. -- Russell Morris "So, broccoli, mother says you're good for me... but I'm afraid I'm no good for you!" - Stewy
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Yes. Although wasn't this after the fall of communism? I believe (I could be wrong, as I often am :-O ) that the sanctions were there because of the whole Bosnia and "ethnicl clensing" stuff going on at the time. The generation of random numbers is too important to be left to chance.
Hmm... I just did some reading, and it looks as though my timeframe of events is about 20 years off. I had confused his 'match of the century' in 1972 with his 'naughty' match in 1992 Yugoslavia. Sheesh... egg on my face :doh: :-O -- Russell Morris "So, broccoli, mother says you're good for me... but I'm afraid I'm no good for you!" - Stewy
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Paul Watson wrote: Where do you draw the line though in what matters and what does not matter in a sanctioned country? A high profile chess game could draw in money and unduely positive PR for a sanctioned country. They could put spin on it to weaken the sanctions. You draw the line in military/terrorist operations. Look Paul, when Stalin and his gangsters did this kind of thing in the cold war era every decent freedom-lover complained about it, and it was fair enough. Why should we behave the same way? I don't always agree with sanctions but we should respect them. Should the east berliners respect the Berlin Wall, too? :confused: Cheers, Rui A. Rebelo Computers are useless, they can only provide answers. Pablo Picasso
YEah sorry you are dead right. The Berlin wall was exactly like international sanctions against a rogue nation. My mistake. :rolleyes: regards, Paul Watson South Africa The Code Project Gary Wheeler wrote: It's people like you that keep me heading for my big debut on CNN...
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Russell Morris wrote: partake in business I don't agree or disagree with this... but you said "partake in business".. entering a competition and winning it, whether it is state sponsored or not, is not business in my opinion. It is competition, plain and simple. Regards, Brian Dela :-) Now Bloging![^]
It wasn't a competition. It was an exhibition where each person was guaranteed an "appearance fee". Therefore, it was a business with contracts drawn up for each participant (Fischer and Spassky) Cheers, Tom Archer - Archer Consulting Group Programmer Trainer and Mentor and Project Management Consultant
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It wasn't a competition. It was an exhibition where each person was guaranteed an "appearance fee". Therefore, it was a business with contracts drawn up for each participant (Fischer and Spassky) Cheers, Tom Archer - Archer Consulting Group Programmer Trainer and Mentor and Project Management Consultant
Tom Archer wrote: Therefore, it was a business with contracts drawn up for each participant (Fischer and Spassky) Well if there were contracts etc drawn up that specified guaranteed payments they yes, I would view it as a business venture. :-) Regards, Brian Dela :-) Now Bloging![^]
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So do I.
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