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Holy cow! Never thought I'd hear about that language again. BW
I want pancakes! God, do you people understand every language except English?
Yo quiero pancakes. Donnez moi pancakes. Click click, bloody click pancakes!
-- Stewie Griffin:) To be honest, the last time i actually used it was a few years back. I was taking a class on web-dev with ASP, and getting bored with the projects... so for one i did a partial Forth interpreter in ASP, and implemented the rest of the project using it. Not the most modern of languages i guess, but hard to beat for pure fun...
Shog9
I'm not the Jack of Diamonds... I'm not the six of spades. I don't know what you thought; I'm not your astronaut...
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:) To be honest, the last time i actually used it was a few years back. I was taking a class on web-dev with ASP, and getting bored with the projects... so for one i did a partial Forth interpreter in ASP, and implemented the rest of the project using it. Not the most modern of languages i guess, but hard to beat for pure fun...
Shog9
I'm not the Jack of Diamonds... I'm not the six of spades. I don't know what you thought; I'm not your astronaut...
I remember my dad messing around with Forth at home around 15-20 years ago maybe. He got all excited about improving some algorithm. I think I mumbled "That's nice" around a mouthful of King Vitmain cereal. :) Never got much beyond a quick look at his code, I was too busy playing soccer at the time. BW
I want pancakes! God, do you people understand every language except English?
Yo quiero pancakes. Donnez moi pancakes. Click click, bloody click pancakes!
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I remember my dad messing around with Forth at home around 15-20 years ago maybe. He got all excited about improving some algorithm. I think I mumbled "That's nice" around a mouthful of King Vitmain cereal. :) Never got much beyond a quick look at his code, I was too busy playing soccer at the time. BW
I want pancakes! God, do you people understand every language except English?
Yo quiero pancakes. Donnez moi pancakes. Click click, bloody click pancakes!
-- Stewie GriffinWell, now's your chance to have a look... :D
Shog9
I'm not the Jack of Diamonds... I'm not the six of spades. I don't know what you thought; I'm not your astronaut...
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Shog9 wrote: "the second greatest language ever to exist" This begs the question: What's the greatest language ever to exist? :) -- Oneigaishimasu! I blog too now[^]
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Too many unused letters for my taste.. :-D -- Oneigaishimasu! I blog too now[^]
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Zdeslav Vojkovic wrote: i like the way it is done in C++/CLI when the object is automatically disposed when it goes out of scope (and i'm aware why this is not supported in C#) Yes, but if you ever take an object allocated on the stack and store its address (by pointer or reference) as an element of a collection (for later retrieval), BOOM! Regards, Alvaro
Victory means exit strategy, and it's important for the President to explain to us what the exit strategy is. -- GWB, 1999.
of course, this is programming 101, but the point is that you must know what you're doing and that it's good to have a choice. without deterministic finalization, all resource management (except memory) is left to developer, so if you share the same object among multiple clients you have to take special care of who is calling Dispose() and this can get really ugly. this can be avoided if your object can wait for garbage collection cycle, but some resources are scarce and you must dispose them a.s.a.p. that said, i think that C# is generally going in good direction, it is just too protective for my taste. my current favorite for .NET programming is C++/CLI, but unfortunately, i don't get to use it at all
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Too many unused letters for my taste.. :-D -- Oneigaishimasu! I blog too now[^]
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"eau" could just as well have been spelled "å".. ;) Interestingly, "å" means water stream in Swedish.. :suss: -- Oneigaishimasu! I blog too now[^]
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If you think we use umlauts and rings excessively in Swedish, take a look at the Czech language! All those modifiers are scary! :~ -- Oneigaishimasu! I blog too now[^]
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"eau" could just as well have been spelled "å".. ;) Interestingly, "å" means water stream in Swedish.. :suss: -- Oneigaishimasu! I blog too now[^]
There's a (very slight) difference in pronunciation between "eau" and "o"...IMO the beauty of French words comes also from their history, their etymology...that's why the way words are written may vary from their phonetic value. It's probably hard to understand for someone used to a germanic language :-D
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If you think we use umlauts and rings excessively in Swedish, take a look at the Czech language! All those modifiers are scary! :~ -- Oneigaishimasu! I blog too now[^]
Jörgen Sigvardsson wrote: we use umlauts and rings excessively in Swedish, Noooo[^] :-D Jörgen Sigvardsson wrote: All those modifiers are scary! We have our share of them: é, è, à, ç, â, î, ô, ï, ö, ë, ä, ê, ù, ü...
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There's a (very slight) difference in pronunciation between "eau" and "o"...IMO the beauty of French words comes also from their history, their etymology...that's why the way words are written may vary from their phonetic value. It's probably hard to understand for someone used to a germanic language :-D
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K(arl) wrote: There's a (very slight) difference in pronunciation between "eau" and "o" "å" doesn't quite follow the rules of "o"... In Swedish, I would definately spell it with an "å". But since we're a lazy bunch of people here up north, we just assimilate the word as if it was our own. I think the word is used for perfumes. Cologne and eau de toilette.. am I far off..? :~ K(arl) wrote: It's probably hard to understand for someone used to a germanic language Man muss alle Buchstaben aussprechen! ;) -- Oneigaishimasu! I blog too now[^]
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Jörgen Sigvardsson wrote: we use umlauts and rings excessively in Swedish, Noooo[^] :-D Jörgen Sigvardsson wrote: All those modifiers are scary! We have our share of them: é, è, à, ç, â, î, ô, ï, ö, ë, ä, ê, ù, ü...
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So.. what does a ^ do to an i? Or a ¨ for that matter..? What do they modify? Pitch? Length? :confused: -- Oneigaishimasu! I blog too now[^]
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K(arl) wrote: There's a (very slight) difference in pronunciation between "eau" and "o" "å" doesn't quite follow the rules of "o"... In Swedish, I would definately spell it with an "å". But since we're a lazy bunch of people here up north, we just assimilate the word as if it was our own. I think the word is used for perfumes. Cologne and eau de toilette.. am I far off..? :~ K(arl) wrote: It's probably hard to understand for someone used to a germanic language Man muss alle Buchstaben aussprechen! ;) -- Oneigaishimasu! I blog too now[^]
Jörgen Sigvardsson wrote: Cologne and eau de toilette Cologne, the french name for Köln[^]: It's funny to see that in swedish "you" choose the french name of a german city as a word..european history is quite complex :) Jörgen Sigvardsson wrote: Man muss alle Buchstaben aussprechen! And IMO it's the only easy part when learning German :-D
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So.. what does a ^ do to an i? Or a ¨ for that matter..? What do they modify? Pitch? Length? :confused: -- Oneigaishimasu! I blog too now[^]
When adding a "¨", it means the letter must be pronunced as if it was alone, without taking care of the letters around, then not forming a syllable. For instance cigüe (= conium) is pronunced like "sig-uh", when cigue would be pronunced like "sig"..at least if it is was a real word :) . The modifier "^" is a souvenir of a gone "s" and indicates the letter should be pronunced on a lower tone. For instance, mâle (= male) was written in old French as "masle". é, è indicate different pitches, à and ù are used for grammatical reasons.
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an integer is a value type (in .NET sense). this would mean that you can't change an integer. if you follow the same logic this should be illegal:
System.Drawing.Rectangle rc = new System.Drawing.Rectangle(5, 10, 15, 20); rc.Offset(1,2);if i can offset a rectangle this way, it should also be possible to do it inside foreach statement.Zdeslav Vojkovic wrote: if i can offset a rectangle this way, it should also be possible to do it inside foreach statement. It is :-)
Rectangle[] rectangles = new Rectangle[2];
rectangles[0] = new Rectangle(5, 10, 15, 20);
rectangles[1] = new Rectangle(5, 10, 15, 20);foreach (Rectangle rc in rectangles)
{
rc.Offset(1,2);
}rc does not reference a copy of rectangle[n], it references the actual Rectangle instance at the current iterator position. "After all it's just text at the end of the day. - Colin Davies "For example, when a VB programmer comes to my house, they may say 'does your pool need cleaning, sir ?' " - Christian Graus
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Why do you exclude web application development from that? ASP.NET with C# is like an orgasm on tap.
Ðavid Wulff The Royal Woofle Museum
Audioscrobbler :: flikrDie Freiheit spielt auf allen Geigen
You are correct. I meant windows application development in the generic sense - to include both windows and web programming for microsoft centric solutions. "The Yahoos refused to be tamed."
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You are correct. I meant windows application development in the generic sense - to include both windows and web programming for microsoft centric solutions. "The Yahoos refused to be tamed."
Ah, ok.
Ðavid Wulff The Royal Woofle Museum
Audioscrobbler :: flikrDie Freiheit spielt auf allen Geigen
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:omg: No, not French, please. My wife tried to teach me (she has a BA in French) but I just couldn't get any of it. No, I prefer Italian - both the language and food :cool:
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Zdeslav Vojkovic wrote: if i can offset a rectangle this way, it should also be possible to do it inside foreach statement. It is :-)
Rectangle[] rectangles = new Rectangle[2];
rectangles[0] = new Rectangle(5, 10, 15, 20);
rectangles[1] = new Rectangle(5, 10, 15, 20);foreach (Rectangle rc in rectangles)
{
rc.Offset(1,2);
}rc does not reference a copy of rectangle[n], it references the actual Rectangle instance at the current iterator position. "After all it's just text at the end of the day. - Colin Davies "For example, when a VB programmer comes to my house, they may say 'does your pool need cleaning, sir ?' " - Christian Graus
jan larsen wrote: rc does not reference a copy of rectangle[n], it references the actual Rectangle instance at the current iterator position. no, it does not because Rectangle is a value type, so rc inside foreach is the boxed copy. the original instances in rectangles array remain unchanged, you can check in the debuger. you need this to change them:
int c = 0; foreach (Rectangle rc in rectangles) { rc.Offset(1,2); rectangles[c] = rc; c++; // no pun intended :) }
