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    j1webb
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    It might be nice is there were some Messageboard Etiquette suggestions visibly posted somewhere so the newbies (and even the oldies) might learn some of the basic rules. Like responding back (possibly with a Thank You)if the help that was posted worked, or not bluntly saying "Need code to do this or that, immediately", or something similar. Does anyone else think this would be worthwhile?

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      It might be nice is there were some Messageboard Etiquette suggestions visibly posted somewhere so the newbies (and even the oldies) might learn some of the basic rules. Like responding back (possibly with a Thank You)if the help that was posted worked, or not bluntly saying "Need code to do this or that, immediately", or something similar. Does anyone else think this would be worthwhile?

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      Jon Sagara
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      j1webb wrote: Messageboard Etiquette suggestions You mean like posting suggestions in the Suggestions[^] forum? ;P

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        It might be nice is there were some Messageboard Etiquette suggestions visibly posted somewhere so the newbies (and even the oldies) might learn some of the basic rules. Like responding back (possibly with a Thank You)if the help that was posted worked, or not bluntly saying "Need code to do this or that, immediately", or something similar. Does anyone else think this would be worthwhile?

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        Tom Archer
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        I don't think you can legislate manners. People are either going to be courteous - or not - based on who they are as opposed to rules. Cheers, Tom Archer - Archer Consulting Group Programmer Trainer and Mentor and Project Management Consultant

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          j1webb wrote: Messageboard Etiquette suggestions You mean like posting suggestions in the Suggestions[^] forum? ;P

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          j1webb
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          Actually I thought I would first see what others thought about it and if enough people responded and agreed then I intended to make the suggestion. I didn't just say "Gee, why doesn't Code Project do this", I was asking for opinions, that's why I asked what others thought. That way I could present more than just my opinion and I would know if it should be pursued. I like to do a little homework before making suggestions.

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            j1webb wrote: Messageboard Etiquette suggestions You mean like posting suggestions in the Suggestions[^] forum? ;P

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            Jon Sagara wrote: like posting suggestions in the Suggestions[^] forum? :laugh::laugh: Zzzziiiiiing! "If it's Snowbird season, why can't we shoot them?" - Overheard in a bar in Bullhead City

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              Actually I thought I would first see what others thought about it and if enough people responded and agreed then I intended to make the suggestion. I didn't just say "Gee, why doesn't Code Project do this", I was asking for opinions, that's why I asked what others thought. That way I could present more than just my opinion and I would know if it should be pursued. I like to do a little homework before making suggestions.

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              Jon Sagara
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              Don't mind me. I've been known to be a smart aleck every now and then. ;)

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                I don't think you can legislate manners. People are either going to be courteous - or not - based on who they are as opposed to rules. Cheers, Tom Archer - Archer Consulting Group Programmer Trainer and Mentor and Project Management Consultant

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                j1webb
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                You are correct to a point. But if newbies aren't aware that there is some etiquette involved in using the messageboards they will never use it. It's like No Shirt, No Shoes, No Service. I realize some people will still try to ignore that rule, but most people will adhere to it once they know certain establishments require it. But, thanks for your opinion.

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                  It might be nice is there were some Messageboard Etiquette suggestions visibly posted somewhere so the newbies (and even the oldies) might learn some of the basic rules. Like responding back (possibly with a Thank You)if the help that was posted worked, or not bluntly saying "Need code to do this or that, immediately", or something similar. Does anyone else think this would be worthwhile?

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                  j1webb wrote: Does anyone else think this would be worthwhile? While I agree that the manners of many people in the forums has been particularly offputting for me recently. (See this thread[^] for a recent rant, of sorts) I don't think this will work. Mainly because newbies tend to stumble around until they find somewhere to post a question and blunder through with their question. Also, in some languages the way the questions are asked are not considered rude. In those cases extra lessions in English are required. For example, when I was first in Spain I got no where by asking "Me gustaria tomar una coca cola" (I would like to take [have] a coca cola), but I told by a native to say "Me da una coca cola" (Give me a coca cola) and it worked. To me the latter is quite rude, but for some reason I just got a blank look with the former. I have also noticed that some groups (I don't know whether this is a language thing or a regional cultural thing) plead and beg for help that I also find quite off-putting because I feel that it is primarily designed to get help by making others feel guilty. I have considered a few times over the last couple of months or so in writing up an article on forum manners and then linking to it in my signature. I may get round to it....


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                    You are correct to a point. But if newbies aren't aware that there is some etiquette involved in using the messageboards they will never use it. It's like No Shirt, No Shoes, No Service. I realize some people will still try to ignore that rule, but most people will adhere to it once they know certain establishments require it. But, thanks for your opinion.

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                    I wholeheartedly agree with you that people should be more courteous, but my point is that when you have to tell someone to say "thank you", #1) it's not really worth it at that point since they're doing it out of obligation instead of being heart-felt and #2) if they were predisposed to being courteous they would do it without there being a rule. Cheers, Tom Archer - Archer Consulting Group Programmer Trainer and Mentor and Project Management Consultant

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                      I wholeheartedly agree with you that people should be more courteous, but my point is that when you have to tell someone to say "thank you", #1) it's not really worth it at that point since they're doing it out of obligation instead of being heart-felt and #2) if they were predisposed to being courteous they would do it without there being a rule. Cheers, Tom Archer - Archer Consulting Group Programmer Trainer and Mentor and Project Management Consultant

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                      Tom Archer wrote: if they were predisposed to being courteous they would do it without there being a rule Agreed.

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                        It might be nice is there were some Messageboard Etiquette suggestions visibly posted somewhere so the newbies (and even the oldies) might learn some of the basic rules. Like responding back (possibly with a Thank You)if the help that was posted worked, or not bluntly saying "Need code to do this or that, immediately", or something similar. Does anyone else think this would be worthwhile?

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                        j1webb wrote: It might be nice is there were some Messageboard Etiquette Ah, poor child, you must learn to be guided by your inner conscience rather than seeking out the fetters and rules that others are all too willing to inflict upon you! Marc MyXaml Advanced Unit Testing YAPO

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                          j1webb wrote: It might be nice is there were some Messageboard Etiquette Ah, poor child, you must learn to be guided by your inner conscience rather than seeking out the fetters and rules that others are all too willing to inflict upon you! Marc MyXaml Advanced Unit Testing YAPO

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                          I still believe people can become socially acceptable if given the proper guidance and opportunity. I was in the Infantry for 33 years (3 tours in Vietnam and 1 in Desert Storm) and was both a Platoon Sgt and a 1st Sgt. I also coached both youth baseball and American Legion baseball for over 18 years. I've trained hundreds of young men and have had my successes and failures, but the one thing I discovered was that many of these young men not only lacked the understanding of courtesy they were never given much of it themselves. It is not taught much anymore in either the home or schools. So it was always a priority for both my troops and my players to practice it and I felt like it made a difference because often it was the only structure they had in their lives. I have 3 daughters and 1 son who also work with youth. One daughter is a teacher for disturbed children, 2 daughters are youth ministers and my son is an English teacher and a high school coach. All 4 of them stress teaching courtesy and general social interaction. Thay also have discovered neither parents nor teachers seem to feel this is important. But it has made a tremendous positive impact in many of lives of the children they work with. But courtesy is like respect, you have to give it before you can receive it. So if you give up and say, "Nothing is going to change", then it won't. I have refused to give up and I continue to win my little victories from time to time.

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                            It might be nice is there were some Messageboard Etiquette suggestions visibly posted somewhere so the newbies (and even the oldies) might learn some of the basic rules. Like responding back (possibly with a Thank You)if the help that was posted worked, or not bluntly saying "Need code to do this or that, immediately", or something similar. Does anyone else think this would be worthwhile?

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                            Something like this[^]? :-)


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                              I still believe people can become socially acceptable if given the proper guidance and opportunity. I was in the Infantry for 33 years (3 tours in Vietnam and 1 in Desert Storm) and was both a Platoon Sgt and a 1st Sgt. I also coached both youth baseball and American Legion baseball for over 18 years. I've trained hundreds of young men and have had my successes and failures, but the one thing I discovered was that many of these young men not only lacked the understanding of courtesy they were never given much of it themselves. It is not taught much anymore in either the home or schools. So it was always a priority for both my troops and my players to practice it and I felt like it made a difference because often it was the only structure they had in their lives. I have 3 daughters and 1 son who also work with youth. One daughter is a teacher for disturbed children, 2 daughters are youth ministers and my son is an English teacher and a high school coach. All 4 of them stress teaching courtesy and general social interaction. Thay also have discovered neither parents nor teachers seem to feel this is important. But it has made a tremendous positive impact in many of lives of the children they work with. But courtesy is like respect, you have to give it before you can receive it. So if you give up and say, "Nothing is going to change", then it won't. I have refused to give up and I continue to win my little victories from time to time.

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                                It might be nice is there were some Messageboard Etiquette suggestions visibly posted somewhere so the newbies (and even the oldies) might learn some of the basic rules. Like responding back (possibly with a Thank You)if the help that was posted worked, or not bluntly saying "Need code to do this or that, immediately", or something similar. Does anyone else think this would be worthwhile?

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                                No. What are you - STUPID or something? :) j/k ------- sig starts "I've heard some drivers saying, 'We're going too fast here...'. If you're not here to race, go the hell home - don't come here and grumble about going too fast. Why don't you tie a kerosene rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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