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  • M Maximilien

    I ( my family ) used to live next a very nice orthodox jewish family and from time to time, they would, kind of, find a way to , knock on our door and ask us to turn on or off some appliances or lights for them on the Sabbath ...


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    Really? Wow, this is more bizzare than I though! It seems odd that God® would notice that they turned a light switch on themselves but not notice them asking the neighbor to do it. :)

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      So I'm considering buying a wall mounted oven and I'm perusing the new models and come across a "Sabbath mode" feature. What the hell is that? I think to myself (being completely non religious, indeed anti religious even): http://www.wordspy.com/words/Sabbathmode.asp[^] Now isn't this a classic example of breaking the spirit of a law by following the word of the law? I admit I think religion of any kind is just plain silly, but if you are going to adhere to it, shouldn't you really adhere to it and not try to trick your way out of it? If I was a dark and vengeful god I sure know I would smite down those that tried to flout my will this way...maybe this is just proof that god doesn't exist? :-D

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      John Cardinal wrote: I think religion of any kind is just plain silly I do to, thats why I don't practice it. :-D I understand that in some multi-floor buildings in Israel, if not all, there is a special elevator for Orthodox Jews that hits every floor automatically so that the passengers don't have to push a button and thus violate the no working on the Sabbath law. :doh: Gary Kirkham Forever Forgiven and Alive in the Spirit He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain what he cannot lose. - Jim Elliot Me blog, You read

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        So I'm considering buying a wall mounted oven and I'm perusing the new models and come across a "Sabbath mode" feature. What the hell is that? I think to myself (being completely non religious, indeed anti religious even): http://www.wordspy.com/words/Sabbathmode.asp[^] Now isn't this a classic example of breaking the spirit of a law by following the word of the law? I admit I think religion of any kind is just plain silly, but if you are going to adhere to it, shouldn't you really adhere to it and not try to trick your way out of it? If I was a dark and vengeful god I sure know I would smite down those that tried to flout my will this way...maybe this is just proof that god doesn't exist? :-D

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        That's just plain stupid. I'm not surprised though. Christian I have several lifelong friends that are New Yorkers but I have always gravitated toward the weirdo's. - Richard Stringer

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          So I'm considering buying a wall mounted oven and I'm perusing the new models and come across a "Sabbath mode" feature. What the hell is that? I think to myself (being completely non religious, indeed anti religious even): http://www.wordspy.com/words/Sabbathmode.asp[^] Now isn't this a classic example of breaking the spirit of a law by following the word of the law? I admit I think religion of any kind is just plain silly, but if you are going to adhere to it, shouldn't you really adhere to it and not try to trick your way out of it? If I was a dark and vengeful god I sure know I would smite down those that tried to flout my will this way...maybe this is just proof that god doesn't exist? :-D

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          Since when is cooking for the family considered work? What's the difference between throwing a lasagna in the oven, and making a sandwich? I'm certainly all for following your religious beliefs, but I don't get this one. BW


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            So I'm considering buying a wall mounted oven and I'm perusing the new models and come across a "Sabbath mode" feature. What the hell is that? I think to myself (being completely non religious, indeed anti religious even): http://www.wordspy.com/words/Sabbathmode.asp[^] Now isn't this a classic example of breaking the spirit of a law by following the word of the law? I admit I think religion of any kind is just plain silly, but if you are going to adhere to it, shouldn't you really adhere to it and not try to trick your way out of it? If I was a dark and vengeful god I sure know I would smite down those that tried to flout my will this way...maybe this is just proof that god doesn't exist? :-D

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            a few years ago, i saw a 60 Minutes story about a Hospital in Israel. they showed how all the machines were set up with similar capabilities - IV drips that would adjust medication automatically, monitors that controlled IVs automatically, etc.. i'm sure a lot of that is commonplace these days, even outside Israel; but they were doing it out of necessity, not just to save money on nurses. they just couldn't start any processes (or whatever) on Sunday Saturday. Image Toolkits | Image Processing | Cleek

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              a few years ago, i saw a 60 Minutes story about a Hospital in Israel. they showed how all the machines were set up with similar capabilities - IV drips that would adjust medication automatically, monitors that controlled IVs automatically, etc.. i'm sure a lot of that is commonplace these days, even outside Israel; but they were doing it out of necessity, not just to save money on nurses. they just couldn't start any processes (or whatever) on Sunday Saturday. Image Toolkits | Image Processing | Cleek

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              Chris Losinger wrote: they just couldn't start any processes (or whatever) on Sunday. The sabbath is, of course, on Saturday. Not just to Jews, but some Christian sects believe this as well.

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                So I'm considering buying a wall mounted oven and I'm perusing the new models and come across a "Sabbath mode" feature. What the hell is that? I think to myself (being completely non religious, indeed anti religious even): http://www.wordspy.com/words/Sabbathmode.asp[^] Now isn't this a classic example of breaking the spirit of a law by following the word of the law? I admit I think religion of any kind is just plain silly, but if you are going to adhere to it, shouldn't you really adhere to it and not try to trick your way out of it? If I was a dark and vengeful god I sure know I would smite down those that tried to flout my will this way...maybe this is just proof that god doesn't exist? :-D

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                That's just nuts. :confused: Anna :rose: Riverblade Ltd - Software Consultancy Services Anna's Place | Tears and Laughter "Be yourself - not what others think you should be" - Marcia Graesch "Anna's just a sexy-looking lesbian tart" - A friend, trying to wind me up. It didn't work.

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                  Chris Losinger wrote: they just couldn't start any processes (or whatever) on Sunday. The sabbath is, of course, on Saturday. Not just to Jews, but some Christian sects believe this as well.

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                  yeah, saturday. Image Toolkits | Image Processing | Cleek

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                    John Cardinal wrote: I think religion of any kind is just plain silly I do to, thats why I don't practice it. :-D I understand that in some multi-floor buildings in Israel, if not all, there is a special elevator for Orthodox Jews that hits every floor automatically so that the passengers don't have to push a button and thus violate the no working on the Sabbath law. :doh: Gary Kirkham Forever Forgiven and Alive in the Spirit He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain what he cannot lose. - Jim Elliot Me blog, You read

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                    Gary Kirkham wrote: I understand that in some multi-floor buildings in Israel, if not all, there is a special elevator for Orthodox Jews that hits every floor automatically so that the passengers don't have to push a button and thus violate the no working on the Sabbath law. Now imagine staying on the 12th floor of a hotel during Saturday:doh:

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                      John Cardinal wrote: I think religion of any kind is just plain silly I do to, thats why I don't practice it. :-D I understand that in some multi-floor buildings in Israel, if not all, there is a special elevator for Orthodox Jews that hits every floor automatically so that the passengers don't have to push a button and thus violate the no working on the Sabbath law. :doh: Gary Kirkham Forever Forgiven and Alive in the Spirit He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain what he cannot lose. - Jim Elliot Me blog, You read

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                      Wow, that is just absurd. Anyway, how can they walk into in the elevator - isn't that working? For that matter... how can they get out of bed in the morning?


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                        a few years ago, i saw a 60 Minutes story about a Hospital in Israel. they showed how all the machines were set up with similar capabilities - IV drips that would adjust medication automatically, monitors that controlled IVs automatically, etc.. i'm sure a lot of that is commonplace these days, even outside Israel; but they were doing it out of necessity, not just to save money on nurses. they just couldn't start any processes (or whatever) on Sunday Saturday. Image Toolkits | Image Processing | Cleek

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                        What happens if you are involved in an RTA on the sabbath? Surely they would break rules to treat you?


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                        • M Member 96

                          So I'm considering buying a wall mounted oven and I'm perusing the new models and come across a "Sabbath mode" feature. What the hell is that? I think to myself (being completely non religious, indeed anti religious even): http://www.wordspy.com/words/Sabbathmode.asp[^] Now isn't this a classic example of breaking the spirit of a law by following the word of the law? I admit I think religion of any kind is just plain silly, but if you are going to adhere to it, shouldn't you really adhere to it and not try to trick your way out of it? If I was a dark and vengeful god I sure know I would smite down those that tried to flout my will this way...maybe this is just proof that god doesn't exist? :-D

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                          I saw the subject line and thought you were referring to Black Sabbth :-O Ozzie rocks :laugh: The tigress is here :-D

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                            Really? Wow, this is more bizzare than I though! It seems odd that God® would notice that they turned a light switch on themselves but not notice them asking the neighbor to do it. :)

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                            John Cardinal wrote: but not notice them asking the neighbor to do it. Actually, they aren't even supposed to directly ask. You have to figure it out. At least, this was my experience once when I was a guest at an event in an orthodox church (my girlfriend at the time was Jewish). The fellow kept hinting, sort of saying "gee, it's really bright in the kitchen" to me, being a heathen, since he obviously didn't care about my soul, but couldn't specifically say "go turn the light off because I have to follow these idiotic laws". Marc MyXaml Advanced Unit Testing YAPO

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                              Since when is cooking for the family considered work? What's the difference between throwing a lasagna in the oven, and making a sandwich? I'm certainly all for following your religious beliefs, but I don't get this one. BW


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                              brianwelsch wrote: Since when is cooking for the family considered work? What's the difference between throwing a lasagna in the oven, and making a sandwich? I guess here the bad thing is not throwing the lasagna in the oven, but turning the oven on, hence the sabath mode of the oven... Hehe, is actually funny. Probably back in the ol`days when electrical appliances started becomming mainstream a conservative Jewish priest decided that people were getting away with "work" on Sabath-day by letting elektric machines do the work for them, so to reintroduce the spirit of Sabath they put in the rule not to activate any elektrical appliances that day. But technological progress has provided new means to obey the rule AND use your appliances at the same time.

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                                I saw the subject line and thought you were referring to Black Sabbth :-O Ozzie rocks :laugh: The tigress is here :-D

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                                Marc Clifton
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                                Trollslayer wrote: I saw the subject line and thought you were referring to Black Sabbth Me too! And when he mentioned a Sabbath option on the oven, I was really clueless. I kept imagining the oven breaking out into a heavy metal solo when the turkey temperature hits 375 or something. Marc MyXaml Advanced Unit Testing YAPO

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                                  So I'm considering buying a wall mounted oven and I'm perusing the new models and come across a "Sabbath mode" feature. What the hell is that? I think to myself (being completely non religious, indeed anti religious even): http://www.wordspy.com/words/Sabbathmode.asp[^] Now isn't this a classic example of breaking the spirit of a law by following the word of the law? I admit I think religion of any kind is just plain silly, but if you are going to adhere to it, shouldn't you really adhere to it and not try to trick your way out of it? If I was a dark and vengeful god I sure know I would smite down those that tried to flout my will this way...maybe this is just proof that god doesn't exist? :-D

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                                  Its even more difficult to be observant if you are outside the house, unless you have magick string suspended from poles[^]. As far as crazy religeous activity goes, that even beats dancing round a meteorite once a year at the worlds first theme park. Ryan

                                  O fools, awake! The rites you sacred hold Are but a cheat contrived by men of old, Who lusted after wealth and gained their lust And died in baseness—and their law is dust. al-Ma'arri (973-1057)

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                                    I saw the subject line and thought you were referring to Black Sabbth :-O Ozzie rocks :laugh: The tigress is here :-D

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                                    So do I :) - I was almost disappointed...


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                                      What happens if you are involved in an RTA on the sabbath? Surely they would break rules to treat you?


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                                      don't remember if they addressed that or not. maybe there are exceptions for life-threatening situations ? Image Toolkits | Image Processing | Cleek

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                                        Its even more difficult to be observant if you are outside the house, unless you have magick string suspended from poles[^]. As far as crazy religeous activity goes, that even beats dancing round a meteorite once a year at the worlds first theme park. Ryan

                                        O fools, awake! The rites you sacred hold Are but a cheat contrived by men of old, Who lusted after wealth and gained their lust And died in baseness—and their law is dust. al-Ma'arri (973-1057)

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                                        Chris Losinger
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                                        ha! where there's a will, there's a way to justify it. Image Toolkits | Image Processing | Cleek

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                                          So do I :) - I was almost disappointed...


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                                          Wait ... this oven goes to 11 :)

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