Some New Ideas
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I heard a brief blurb on NPR this morning that Bush has "some new ideas" to help ease the energy supply crunch--built nuclear plants and make closed military bases available for new refineries. Here's a news story[^]. The president's speech was described by White House officials as a way to emphasize how technology can be applied to expand the supply of energy. OK, it's a slightly out of context quote, but geez, my reaction was that yet again, Bush proves himself to be an imbicile. Let's use "technology" to get even more dependent on non-renewable, Arab controlled, resources. Let's restart the nuclear energy program which technology has still not found a solution for with regards to spent fuel rods and other nuclear waste. And what the hell is this: Bush will call on the Energy Department to develop a proposal for a federal "risk insurance" plan that would kick in if there were lengthy delays in licensing of a new commercial power reactor. Something that protects the builder of the plant from excessive regulations? Or something that lets the government step in and say "fire it up" without adequate licensing? And this: The president also will call on Congress to provide a tax credit for gas-electric hybrid automobiles and for use of clean diesel. The hybrid tax break was included in Bush's budget earlier this year but left out of the energy bill passed by the House last week. Such a credit would provide $2.5 billion in tax incentives over 10 years, the White House officials said. Consumers would get a credit, up to $4,000, depending on the level of a vehicle's fuel efficiency, if they purchase a hybrid or clean-diesel vehicle. Is just to be lip service, or so it seems, since it was left out of the energy bill anyways. :mad: Marc MyXaml Advanced Unit Testing YAPO
Does anyone know what France does with its nuclear waste? :confused: AFAIK, they don't have vast amounts of desert they could bury theirs in.
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While I am not in disagreement with President Bush ( at least he is trying to do SOMETHING ) I really do think that we are rapidly reaching the point where we need a Manhattan Project approach in one of two directions. Fuel Cells or synthetic fuels. Electric powered autos are anachronistic at this point because of their dependancy on batteries but viewed in terms of fuel cells they may well be the way to go. Fuel cells have a lot of built in advantages - they are non polluting - the techinical basis is already complete - they should be safe to operate - etc.. Synthetic fuels on the other hand is a technology waiting to be invented. I have no idea if it is even possible on a commercial viable basis. However if we take the 2.something billion and apply it to basic research on one of these two alternatives we would get a bigger bang for the buck in terms of oil used in transportation. Nuke plants are the way to go for commercial electrical production IHNSHO. Richard "Under certain circumstances, profanity provides a relief denied even to prayer --Mark Twain (1835 - 1910)
I would drive a hybrid if they didn't look like a damn toy. Every one I have looked at resembles a kids toy. I want a hybrid that has the body style of a sports car. And by 'sports car' I don't just mean a small body and a tv commercial with cool techno music showing the car being driven my some yuppie jerkoff either. I want something that is 2 seats, convertable, chrome wheels and can do more than 50 for some sustained period of time before it needs to be wound back up again.
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Does anyone know what France does with its nuclear waste? :confused: AFAIK, they don't have vast amounts of desert they could bury theirs in.
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Jason Henderson
blogJason Henderson wrote: Does anyone know what France does with its nuclear waste? They sell it to Iran? Marc MyXaml Advanced Unit Testing YAPO
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I would drive a hybrid if they didn't look like a damn toy. Every one I have looked at resembles a kids toy. I want a hybrid that has the body style of a sports car. And by 'sports car' I don't just mean a small body and a tv commercial with cool techno music showing the car being driven my some yuppie jerkoff either. I want something that is 2 seats, convertable, chrome wheels and can do more than 50 for some sustained period of time before it needs to be wound back up again.
George Carlin wrote: "Don't sweat the petty things, and don't pet the sweaty things." Jörgen Sigvardsson wrote: If the physicists find a universal theory describing the laws of universe, I'm sure the asshole constant will be an integral part of that theory.
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Ray Cassick wrote: Every one I have looked at resembles a kids toy. Check out the Ford Escape hybrid : http://www.fordvehicles.com/escapehybrid/home/[^] I have driven one and it is not a toy. And its not real expensive as compared to the other hybrids. Ray Cassick wrote: I want something that is 2 seats, convertable, chrome wheels and can do more than 50 for some sustained period of time before it needs to be wound back up again. I have, in my past , owned two (2) convertibles. I was a slow learner. I will never ever again own one of those abnominations - noisy leaky and a prime invitation to any thief in the area with a pocket knife. But on a more serious note it sounds like you are looking for this: http://www.modernracer.com/vwbeetleturbos.html[^] Decent MPG and it really is --- FAST ----. Richard "Under certain circumstances, profanity provides a relief denied even to prayer --Mark Twain (1835 - 1910)
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Does anyone know what France does with its nuclear waste? :confused: AFAIK, they don't have vast amounts of desert they could bury theirs in.
"Live long and prosper." - Spock
Jason Henderson
blogI do believe that France is using Fast Breeded reactors - they produce little or no waste AFAIK. Richard "Under certain circumstances, profanity provides a relief denied even to prayer --Mark Twain (1835 - 1910)
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While I am not in disagreement with President Bush ( at least he is trying to do SOMETHING ) I really do think that we are rapidly reaching the point where we need a Manhattan Project approach in one of two directions. Fuel Cells or synthetic fuels. Electric powered autos are anachronistic at this point because of their dependancy on batteries but viewed in terms of fuel cells they may well be the way to go. Fuel cells have a lot of built in advantages - they are non polluting - the techinical basis is already complete - they should be safe to operate - etc.. Synthetic fuels on the other hand is a technology waiting to be invented. I have no idea if it is even possible on a commercial viable basis. However if we take the 2.something billion and apply it to basic research on one of these two alternatives we would get a bigger bang for the buck in terms of oil used in transportation. Nuke plants are the way to go for commercial electrical production IHNSHO. Richard "Under certain circumstances, profanity provides a relief denied even to prayer --Mark Twain (1835 - 1910)
I don't know exactly what you mean by synthetic fuels, but there is certainly ethonol fuels. There was an article on this on the consumption in Brazil - it was mandated by law a certain percentage and then people actually wanted more. Now they are exporting the stuff. http://www.commondreams.org/views05/0417-23.htm[^] http://www.energybulletin.net/2120.html[^]
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I guess 'out there' cognitive reasoning is illegal? Most people are willing to pay more to be amused than to be educated--Robert C. Savage, Life Lessons Toasty0.com Ladder League (beta)
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I heard a brief blurb on NPR this morning that Bush has "some new ideas" to help ease the energy supply crunch--built nuclear plants and make closed military bases available for new refineries. Here's a news story[^]. The president's speech was described by White House officials as a way to emphasize how technology can be applied to expand the supply of energy. OK, it's a slightly out of context quote, but geez, my reaction was that yet again, Bush proves himself to be an imbicile. Let's use "technology" to get even more dependent on non-renewable, Arab controlled, resources. Let's restart the nuclear energy program which technology has still not found a solution for with regards to spent fuel rods and other nuclear waste. And what the hell is this: Bush will call on the Energy Department to develop a proposal for a federal "risk insurance" plan that would kick in if there were lengthy delays in licensing of a new commercial power reactor. Something that protects the builder of the plant from excessive regulations? Or something that lets the government step in and say "fire it up" without adequate licensing? And this: The president also will call on Congress to provide a tax credit for gas-electric hybrid automobiles and for use of clean diesel. The hybrid tax break was included in Bush's budget earlier this year but left out of the energy bill passed by the House last week. Such a credit would provide $2.5 billion in tax incentives over 10 years, the White House officials said. Consumers would get a credit, up to $4,000, depending on the level of a vehicle's fuel efficiency, if they purchase a hybrid or clean-diesel vehicle. Is just to be lip service, or so it seems, since it was left out of the energy bill anyways. :mad: Marc MyXaml Advanced Unit Testing YAPO
Concerning spent fuel rods... We know what to do with them, but there is no hurry. Their not going anywhere and the solution does not breed hydrogen. That’s why this design lost the bid for the next generation nuclear reactors. However, this ‘technology’ will still be around once we find a better way to extract hydrogen. I still think this technology needs more attention; as far as I know it does not have the funding to build a full reactor. All tests were done using controlled heating elements that replicate the heat given off by spent fuel. http://www.caesar.umd.edu/ If you want something to be angry about, look at research spending in the US. In the past 30 years Biology related research has gone up exponentially, while other fields funding rates are almost flat. People want to live longer, and the cost is a slowing speed of scientific development for the rest of society. If people want to live to see the marvels of the future, they need to fund them.
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Marc Clifton wrote: Nuclear power however does nothing for the existing automotive industry. It could - if we used nuclear plants to charge hydrogen fuel cells and batteries for electric cars. Peaceful, isolated places like Canada with plenty of open space to build nuclear plants could become the Saudi Arabia of nuclear energy. "Capitalism is the source of all true freedom."
The irony is the US buys a lot of its uranium from Canada. I still hear stories in my family about a cabin on a lake my great grandparents owned in Canada. At night some of the rock pilings around the lake would have a slight glow to them. There are a lot of natural resources in Canada.
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Concerning spent fuel rods... We know what to do with them, but there is no hurry. Their not going anywhere and the solution does not breed hydrogen. That’s why this design lost the bid for the next generation nuclear reactors. However, this ‘technology’ will still be around once we find a better way to extract hydrogen. I still think this technology needs more attention; as far as I know it does not have the funding to build a full reactor. All tests were done using controlled heating elements that replicate the heat given off by spent fuel. http://www.caesar.umd.edu/ If you want something to be angry about, look at research spending in the US. In the past 30 years Biology related research has gone up exponentially, while other fields funding rates are almost flat. People want to live longer, and the cost is a slowing speed of scientific development for the rest of society. If people want to live to see the marvels of the future, they need to fund them.
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Stan Shannon wrote: It could - if we used nuclear plants to charge hydrogen fuel cells and batteries for electric cars. Possibly, but you're baiting, aren't you? Also note that I said "existing", as I didn't want to get into the quagmire of alternatives. I personally will laugh my head off, when all the environmentalists who are screaming "electric cars", start screaming about the toxic waste from battery/supercapacitor disposal that will then result. Marc MyXaml Advanced Unit Testing YAPO
Don't worry about that - all those environmentalists will have blocked off the upgrades and construction of new electrical delivery systems. So you won't be able to plug that car in without bringing down the whole grid for some quadrant of the US anyway. :doh: "The world is a dangerous place to live, not because of the people who are evil, but because of the people who don't do anything about it." Albert Einstein Dave
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All the research money is now buried in the military budget - that is my impression. If you are working one their projects you will have plenty of funding - but most of it will never be published.
Or, if published sucessfully, the benefactors don't have much time to enjoy it... :cool:
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