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    Well, I had to re-install Winblows. I just got the system installed to the point where I could getonto the internet and leave this message. It took FOUR HOURS from the time I ran "winnt" to the time I was at the first usable desktop with a virgin install. For comparison, it took just 20 minutes to do the same thing for Winblows 98. What file are IE favorites saved in? I archived off my old winblows install and I'm hoping all my old ie favorites went with it. It's gonna take me WEEKS to recover from this (not mentally, but by re-installing all my apps). The registry is an evil and over-used thing. "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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      Well, I had to re-install Winblows. I just got the system installed to the point where I could getonto the internet and leave this message. It took FOUR HOURS from the time I ran "winnt" to the time I was at the first usable desktop with a virgin install. For comparison, it took just 20 minutes to do the same thing for Winblows 98. What file are IE favorites saved in? I archived off my old winblows install and I'm hoping all my old ie favorites went with it. It's gonna take me WEEKS to recover from this (not mentally, but by re-installing all my apps). The registry is an evil and over-used thing. "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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      John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote: What file are IE favorites saved in? Documents And Settings\UserName\Favorites John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote: The registry is an evil and over-used thing. Yeah, I miss ini files. The registry is useful sometimes, but more like black magic other times. With ini files, when you delete the application's directory it doesn't leave behind crap in the registry. And when you want to save/restore your settings you just copy/paste the ini file. So much simpler. "The world has achieved brilliance without wisdom, power without conscience. Ours is a world of nuclear giants and ethical infants." - Omar Bradley

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        John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote: What file are IE favorites saved in? Documents And Settings\UserName\Favorites John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote: The registry is an evil and over-used thing. Yeah, I miss ini files. The registry is useful sometimes, but more like black magic other times. With ini files, when you delete the application's directory it doesn't leave behind crap in the registry. And when you want to save/restore your settings you just copy/paste the ini file. So much simpler. "The world has achieved brilliance without wisdom, power without conscience. Ours is a world of nuclear giants and ethical infants." - Omar Bradley

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        That is the location in W2K. In 98 (and ME) I think it is in windows\favorites in NT4 it was winnt\profiles\username\favorites Not sure why it took 4 hours if 98 could be done in 20 min. Longer yes but not that much different. Hey if you did this every month you could be come a lot quicker at it. Good Luck.:-D

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          That is the location in W2K. In 98 (and ME) I think it is in windows\favorites in NT4 it was winnt\profiles\username\favorites Not sure why it took 4 hours if 98 could be done in 20 min. Longer yes but not that much different. Hey if you did this every month you could be come a lot quicker at it. Good Luck.:-D

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          Most of the time was waiting for files to be copied. I have no clue as to why it took so freakin long. Since we're talking about win2k, the info for win98 is moot. "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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            Most of the time was waiting for files to be copied. I have no clue as to why it took so freakin long. Since we're talking about win2k, the info for win98 is moot. "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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            There were some installations of Win2K that didn't load smartdrv, or an equivalent disk cache before the copying. When I was working IT, when the first W2K boxes were being set up, we used to set them off first thing in the morning so that in the afternoon we could start installing apps. From an internal company e-mail November, 2001 -- "Would the person who stole the ethics training manual from the class last Friday please return it."

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              John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote: What file are IE favorites saved in? Documents And Settings\UserName\Favorites John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote: The registry is an evil and over-used thing. Yeah, I miss ini files. The registry is useful sometimes, but more like black magic other times. With ini files, when you delete the application's directory it doesn't leave behind crap in the registry. And when you want to save/restore your settings you just copy/paste the ini file. So much simpler. "The world has achieved brilliance without wisdom, power without conscience. Ours is a world of nuclear giants and ethical infants." - Omar Bradley

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              What I'd like to see is a program that can at least restore the registry to the last recorded settings (if you ask it to do so). In other words, let's say you installed a program that saves a handful of settings to the registry. Let's also assume that you're about to re-install your OS in a semi-controlled manner (like what I'm doing). A given app should provide a method to the user that allows him to backup the program's registry settings, and then re-apply those settings at a later date, like say, after you re-install the OS. What's so freakin hard about that? It would sure save a butt-load of time when trying to recover your system. Before I left for work this morning, I was able to restore my email and newsreader to working status. I still have to reinstall MS Word 97 Paintshop Pro 7.0 VC++ 6.0 Platform SDK DirectX 8.1 SDK MSDN UltraEdit NTI CD Writer software (no more adaptec crap for me) A few games And I'm back in the saddle. Then, I will Ghost the drive - I promise. "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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                Well, I had to re-install Winblows. I just got the system installed to the point where I could getonto the internet and leave this message. It took FOUR HOURS from the time I ran "winnt" to the time I was at the first usable desktop with a virgin install. For comparison, it took just 20 minutes to do the same thing for Winblows 98. What file are IE favorites saved in? I archived off my old winblows install and I'm hoping all my old ie favorites went with it. It's gonna take me WEEKS to recover from this (not mentally, but by re-installing all my apps). The registry is an evil and over-used thing. "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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                For the uninitiated, change to the I386 folder on your Win2k CD, and use the following commandline to install Win2k onto the desired drive: "winnt /t:D" where "D" is the drive letter of the drive where you want to install Win2k. If you use the Win2k Setup Floppies (that you make with the MAKEBOOT utility), you do not have this option. If you don't want to use ACPI (this assigns ALL possible devices to a single IRQ, and can result in less than stellar performance, especially on gaming rigs), you will have an (un-advertised) opportunity to press the F5 key. Instructions on exactly when and where to press F5 are easily found on the internet. After the files have been coppied "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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                  Well, I had to re-install Winblows. I just got the system installed to the point where I could getonto the internet and leave this message. It took FOUR HOURS from the time I ran "winnt" to the time I was at the first usable desktop with a virgin install. For comparison, it took just 20 minutes to do the same thing for Winblows 98. What file are IE favorites saved in? I archived off my old winblows install and I'm hoping all my old ie favorites went with it. It's gonna take me WEEKS to recover from this (not mentally, but by re-installing all my apps). The registry is an evil and over-used thing. "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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                  At least you didn't ding your cpu core switching fans around trying to get the system noise down, and then spend two hours with AMD on the phone (with Jose the accented tech support with a bad headset) to figure out what happened...
                  Oh, but back to your problems...
                  You know, there is this wonderful creature out there called a BACKUP. This mystical fairie, rarely seen outside of planning groups, has been know to actually save bacon and brain cells, and reduce hair loss from stress. BACKUPS are wonderful things, if you can capture and hold them properly for a while. They need to be enticed into living with your system, sometimes with offerings of burnt floppy disks and tape drives (this also serves to keep the non-believers away who would otherwise ruin this spiritual experience). But once BACKUPS make their home in your system, you can stop worrying and be happy knowing that BACKUPS will recover the most recent data they they just happened to notice. But be careful, BACKUPS have been known to go missing when needed the most!

                  Seriously, I use Norton Ghost and image the whole frigging drive to cdr's once or twice a month. If it's important (email, bills,pr0n, um, source code) it goes onto another drive and/or a zip cart. If it's important, copy if it. If it's not, copy it anyways.

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                    What I'd like to see is a program that can at least restore the registry to the last recorded settings (if you ask it to do so). In other words, let's say you installed a program that saves a handful of settings to the registry. Let's also assume that you're about to re-install your OS in a semi-controlled manner (like what I'm doing). A given app should provide a method to the user that allows him to backup the program's registry settings, and then re-apply those settings at a later date, like say, after you re-install the OS. What's so freakin hard about that? It would sure save a butt-load of time when trying to recover your system. Before I left for work this morning, I was able to restore my email and newsreader to working status. I still have to reinstall MS Word 97 Paintshop Pro 7.0 VC++ 6.0 Platform SDK DirectX 8.1 SDK MSDN UltraEdit NTI CD Writer software (no more adaptec crap for me) A few games And I'm back in the saddle. Then, I will Ghost the drive - I promise. "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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                    What I'd like to see is a program that can at least restore the registry to the last recorded settings (if you ask it to do so). There *is* a product out there - it's called Config Safe, and it works just like you are asking for. You can roll back to whatever, see differences, etc. I used it recently to figure out where the hell Word was saving the custom labels at in the registry (no, not a file, in the REGISTRY, gaaaggg!)

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                      At least you didn't ding your cpu core switching fans around trying to get the system noise down, and then spend two hours with AMD on the phone (with Jose the accented tech support with a bad headset) to figure out what happened...
                      Oh, but back to your problems...
                      You know, there is this wonderful creature out there called a BACKUP. This mystical fairie, rarely seen outside of planning groups, has been know to actually save bacon and brain cells, and reduce hair loss from stress. BACKUPS are wonderful things, if you can capture and hold them properly for a while. They need to be enticed into living with your system, sometimes with offerings of burnt floppy disks and tape drives (this also serves to keep the non-believers away who would otherwise ruin this spiritual experience). But once BACKUPS make their home in your system, you can stop worrying and be happy knowing that BACKUPS will recover the most recent data they they just happened to notice. But be careful, BACKUPS have been known to go missing when needed the most!

                      Seriously, I use Norton Ghost and image the whole frigging drive to cdr's once or twice a month. If it's important (email, bills,pr0n, um, source code) it goes onto another drive and/or a zip cart. If it's important, copy if it. If it's not, copy it anyways.

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                      I'm a victim of ego. I'm a computer expert - I don't *need* to do a backup because I never make a mistake. The funny part of this is that I have no intention of changing my ways. If nothing else, I'm even more of an expert now, because I know what not install on my system (anything from roxio). LOL!! I will be Ghost'ing when my system has been re-configured. "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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                        I'm a victim of ego. I'm a computer expert - I don't *need* to do a backup because I never make a mistake. The funny part of this is that I have no intention of changing my ways. If nothing else, I'm even more of an expert now, because I know what not install on my system (anything from roxio). LOL!! I will be Ghost'ing when my system has been re-configured. "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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                        John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote: - I don't *need* to do a backup because I never make a mistake I consider myself the same thing, but I didn't make a mistake, my hard disk just crapped out on me (internal mechanical failure). I did have a backup, but it was too old to help out. John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote: The funny part of this is that I have no intention of changing my ways Now I only backup stuff which is 10 years out of date and no use what so ever. Welcome back John, the boards have been too quiet without you. Roger Allen Sonork 100.10016 If I'm not breathing, I'm either dead or holding my breath.

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                          Well, I had to re-install Winblows. I just got the system installed to the point where I could getonto the internet and leave this message. It took FOUR HOURS from the time I ran "winnt" to the time I was at the first usable desktop with a virgin install. For comparison, it took just 20 minutes to do the same thing for Winblows 98. What file are IE favorites saved in? I archived off my old winblows install and I'm hoping all my old ie favorites went with it. It's gonna take me WEEKS to recover from this (not mentally, but by re-installing all my apps). The registry is an evil and over-used thing. "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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                          John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote: What file are IE favorites saved in? C:\Documents and Settings\<Username>\Favorites

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                            I'm a victim of ego. I'm a computer expert - I don't *need* to do a backup because I never make a mistake. The funny part of this is that I have no intention of changing my ways. If nothing else, I'm even more of an expert now, because I know what not install on my system (anything from roxio). LOL!! I will be Ghost'ing when my system has been re-configured. "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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                            Wait until you loose five grand in harddrives (not to mention 3 years of bbs data) due to a lightning strike on the local power pole. I got the UPS + backups religion REAL fast. We're all experts. The problem is that nobody *else* are experts!

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                              Wait until you loose five grand in harddrives (not to mention 3 years of bbs data) due to a lightning strike on the local power pole. I got the UPS + backups religion REAL fast. We're all experts. The problem is that nobody *else* are experts!

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                              I bought a UPS so that I wouldn't have to worry about making backups. Want to hear somthing REALLY funny? I have a 8gb tape drive. I just got tired of having to buy a new version of the backup software every time Microsoft puked up a new version of WinBlows. Besides, what's the point in having a backup tape when you have to install windows just to get the image restored? What's the point in that? I think Ghost might be the answer. "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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                                Well, I had to re-install Winblows. I just got the system installed to the point where I could getonto the internet and leave this message. It took FOUR HOURS from the time I ran "winnt" to the time I was at the first usable desktop with a virgin install. For comparison, it took just 20 minutes to do the same thing for Winblows 98. What file are IE favorites saved in? I archived off my old winblows install and I'm hoping all my old ie favorites went with it. It's gonna take me WEEKS to recover from this (not mentally, but by re-installing all my apps). The registry is an evil and over-used thing. "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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                                Did you remember to make a ghost of your virgin install this time? You could have a new system up and running in 5 mins next time.

                                Todd Smith

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                                  Well, I had to re-install Winblows. I just got the system installed to the point where I could getonto the internet and leave this message. It took FOUR HOURS from the time I ran "winnt" to the time I was at the first usable desktop with a virgin install. For comparison, it took just 20 minutes to do the same thing for Winblows 98. What file are IE favorites saved in? I archived off my old winblows install and I'm hoping all my old ie favorites went with it. It's gonna take me WEEKS to recover from this (not mentally, but by re-installing all my apps). The registry is an evil and over-used thing. "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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                                  John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote: Well, I had to re-install Winblows. Why you little linux freak ............. Just kidding. I couldn't help myself.:) -:suss:Matt Newman:suss: -Sonork ID: 100.11179:BestSnowman Frankly AOL should stick to what it does best: Fooling millions of americans into believing that it, AOL, is the web. -Paul Watson

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