I know how software houses feel.
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David This comment was in no way directed at yourself. I agreed to give you the source code for the Windows 2000 dialog, and I may add; a fine job done as well. And yes you did give me a mention. I'm actually refering to people to take your source and submit it to other sites (www.codeguru.com for instance), claiming they developed the code from scratch (even leaving the original comments in). I suppose I should feel flattered.
Norm, Well, I can certainly say from the perspective of a software house that it p*sses me off ... We're almost in exactly the same boat as we offer all the source for our MFC products, and I've seen the code pop up in all kinds of places. If someone's posted something of yours on CG, I'd email Tom Archer and let him know about it. He's a good guy and I believe he'll look after you. I also agree with David that I'd hate to see you pull away from posting material because of this. I also think it's a good idea to let everyone know about this, had I appreciated the similarity between the postings, you can bet I would have posted it here too.
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David This comment was in no way directed at yourself. I agreed to give you the source code for the Windows 2000 dialog, and I may add; a fine job done as well. And yes you did give me a mention. I'm actually refering to people to take your source and submit it to other sites (www.codeguru.com for instance), claiming they developed the code from scratch (even leaving the original comments in). I suppose I should feel flattered.
> This comment was in no way directed at yourself Sorry if it came accross that I thought you were. I was not referring to the MSO2k article in that way, just using it as an example
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> This comment was in no way directed at yourself Sorry if it came accross that I thought you were. I was not referring to the MSO2k article in that way, just using it as an example
Norm, I agree with the previous comments that this sort of activity stinks. Unless their is some legal issue I'd like to see the person named as well as the site. I'd be more than happy to give such people a (small) piece of my mind. We don't need software plagiarists.
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I have for the third time come across my code, submitted to another free software site, once again. The code 90% of my own is slightly tweaked submitted my another so called author. This really p*sses my off and I know of software house must feel, when their code is pirated. I feel like with holding further submissions. Have any other authors out there come across the same thing.
Hey Norm, I saw the code you are talking about and I sympathise totally. I'll talk to the site admin about it. It happens a ton with my own code and it is very frustrating. cheers, Chris Maunde
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I have for the third time come across my code, submitted to another free software site, once again. The code 90% of my own is slightly tweaked submitted my another so called author. This really p*sses my off and I know of software house must feel, when their code is pirated. I feel like with holding further submissions. Have any other authors out there come across the same thing.
Norm,
What happened to you both stinks and Sux, but unfortunatlly thats life.
Anyhow :
A while ago I was involved in an really active News Group investigating a particular technology where myself and other users often posted snippets of code.
One day a notice appeared in the NG of a new book on the technology that had been published.
The author had never been a contributor to the NG.
So naturally I immediatly ordered a copy from Amazon.
Imagine my suprise:-( and joy :-( when the book and CD arrived and it seem to contain 99 % of the code snippets that myself and others had posted.
Here we were paying money for our original code !Regardz
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Norm,
What happened to you both stinks and Sux, but unfortunatlly thats life.
Anyhow :
A while ago I was involved in an really active News Group investigating a particular technology where myself and other users often posted snippets of code.
One day a notice appeared in the NG of a new book on the technology that had been published.
The author had never been a contributor to the NG.
So naturally I immediatly ordered a copy from Amazon.
Imagine my suprise:-( and joy :-( when the book and CD arrived and it seem to contain 99 % of the code snippets that myself and others had posted.
Here we were paying money for our original code !Regardz
Colin DaviesAnd then what happens when a lawyer turns up on your door telling you that all those NG postings violate the copyright of the book publication. There's a can 'o worms that would be fun to work out.
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And then what happens when a lawyer turns up on your door telling you that all those NG postings violate the copyright of the book publication. There's a can 'o worms that would be fun to work out.
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And then what happens when a lawyer turns up on your door telling you that all those NG postings violate the copyright of the book publication. There's a can 'o worms that would be fun to work out.
A simple deja search would show that you posted before the book was written - so any legal action on their behalf would, I assume, backfire (if you had the funds, time and stubbornness to follow it through). Then again, I hear that litigation law is such that you can quite easily drain someone of their will and their cash simply by filing an action and drawing it out. Whoever has the most cash wins. THAT stinks. cheers, Chris Maunde
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A simple deja search would show that you posted before the book was written - so any legal action on their behalf would, I assume, backfire (if you had the funds, time and stubbornness to follow it through). Then again, I hear that litigation law is such that you can quite easily drain someone of their will and their cash simply by filing an action and drawing it out. Whoever has the most cash wins. THAT stinks. cheers, Chris Maunde
Chris your cynicism of the justice system is well deserved, Eg: most Cash wins, Would OJ be walking free if he didn't have a team of high priced lawyers. Or will Peter Reith in the Telecard affair ever be convicted. But as a conundrum the "DOJ vs MS" , just who has the most disposable cash in that case ?
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David This comment was in no way directed at yourself. I agreed to give you the source code for the Windows 2000 dialog, and I may add; a fine job done as well. And yes you did give me a mention. I'm actually refering to people to take your source and submit it to other sites (www.codeguru.com for instance), claiming they developed the code from scratch (even leaving the original comments in). I suppose I should feel flattered.
At the end of the day it means two things: 1/ You rock 2/ Someone else has no integrity. You should be pleased about the former and regard the latter as some-one elses loss, IMHO. Anyone who doesn't give credit where it's due is probably not going to go far in any case. They'll get a job somewhere based on someone elses code, and lose it the following week when they are asking their manager what a 'Hello World' program does.
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And then what happens when a lawyer turns up on your door telling you that all those NG postings violate the copyright of the book publication. There's a can 'o worms that would be fun to work out.
Such a threat should be met with a hearty "Bite me as*hole" and summarily ignored. Besides that, a deja search would show significant prior use within the public domain. Further, a class-action lawsuit would backfire on the newsgroup participants because they posted the code snippets in the public domain for free and unfettered use by anyone that sees the code, so he is free to gather this info and put it in a book. Your best bet is to start a letter-writing campaign to the publisher informing them of your views on the author's lack of integrity and that as far as you're concerned, that publisher doesn't have further place in your personal library. Of course, you could just say to hell with it and go on wishing you had written the book instead... :-
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Chris your cynicism of the justice system is well deserved, Eg: most Cash wins, Would OJ be walking free if he didn't have a team of high priced lawyers. Or will Peter Reith in the Telecard affair ever be convicted. But as a conundrum the "DOJ vs MS" , just who has the most disposable cash in that case ?
I think once things reach players at this level the cash limiting factor disappears
