No MFC, but OO windows programming

[Don Miguel]

I want to make windows GUI programming without using MFC. Can anyone point me to basic/tutorial implementation of windows programming with C++? I need object oriented programming, so where exist a OO wrapper to Windows SDK functions? I need something very basic, just to see how to start, how such things are done, which are helpfull concepts behind turning C style SDK and windows programming to an OO way. Regards, any point will be helpfull (Of course, I don't need ATL, WTL, or other huge library, I just need a very basic implementation for a window, a dialog, maybe a Single Document View)

[Michael P Butler]

The book Windows++ by Paul DiLascia shows how to develop your own OO Windows framework. The source code is on his web site http://www.dilascia.com/wpp.htm Michael :-)

[Lost User]

I still suggest that you look at ATL/WTL - they are _tiny_ libraries and have no other dependencies.

[Don Miguel]

Thanks, thanks, thanks!! You link come quick, and is very fine. You also find the right words for me: "develop your own OO Windows framework". ;) But I think I should buy the book also... Because explanations are usefull too.:( Regards

[Nish Nishant]

Don Miguel wrote: ATL, WTL, or other huge library :confused: :confused: :confused: Nish Sonork ID 100.9786 voidmain www.busterboy.org If you don't find me on CP, I'll be at Bob's HungOut

[Bernhard]

well read the opinions towards this book before buying.. cause most of the readers didn't like it (and there are some reasons for this i guess.) i don't own it.. so i can't say if i like it or not bernhard

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[Don Miguel]

Bernhard wrote: well read the opinions towards this book before buying.. Yes, you are right, but, without those explanations, I'm affraid I will not be able to understand the reasons behind implemenation. Or maybe someone could point me to a tutorial, in terms of achitecting the framework??

[Don Miguel]

Nish [BusterBoy] wrote: HUGE for my understanding time...:laugh: :laugh:

[Jim A Johnson]

Your requirements are in conflict. You want an existing OO framework, but you don't want to it to have any capabilities beyond what you needs. That's not the natre of a framework. A framework generally has a fairly flexible set of capabilities that allow you to build a variety of different types of application. What's your beef with MFC? It's probably the best out there for what you want to do - given that a) it exists, and b) it's easier to learn and use than ATL/WTL.

[Don Miguel]

I want a very basic existing framework... .. and also some explanations about the rationale behind such a implementation.

[zack]

take a look at Visual Component Framework at It is as easy as Java to build GUI applications with Dialogs, Windows, Toolbars and so on. :) zack

[zack]

sorry the link fall out of the text, it's http://sourceforge.net/projects/vcf/

[Don Miguel]

Thanks, it have documentation too, and sound interesting to me. Thanks again!

[Erik Funkenbusch]

I have an *EXTREMELY* simple framework library i've developed that I've been planning to expand on but haven't had the time. It basically is just the windowing framework with command routing, you do everything else manually. It simply provides an class framework to build window objects with. You can find it Here The license is currently temporary and expires at the end of the year, but if you are going to use it for person stuff, I'll give you an unconditional license to use it and modify it (And if you feel like sending me your changes, I'd happily accept them). It's in VC6 project format, with a sample application that does little but open a window. -- Where are we going? And why am I in this handbasket?

[lucy 0]

I would suggest "Graphics Programming in C++" by Mark Walmsley.