Grrrr!!! Help in VC 7
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Okay, I admit it. I can't remember every single API function that MS has ever created so once in a while I use Help to get some... well... help. Yes, I'm weak. Now, in VC7 I place my cursor at ::accept(...) and hit F1. What pops up? If you guessed "IHTMLInputElement2::accept Property" then you are correct. But I'm pretty sure that this doesn't apply to my socket programming. Now what? VC6 showed a nice dialog whenever the help was ambiguous, allowing you to select the correct one. How do I get this in VC7? Anyone? This is driving me nuts. Use 'Dynamic Help' you say? Well, then I have to use my mouse to click the link and I conveniently keep my mouse behind the monitor (read: I never use the mouse unless I'm surfing this new inter-web stuff :-) Okay, I'm better now :-) .Henrik
Well, umm, to answer my own rant. Docking Dynamic Help and setting it to Auto Hide sort of works. Then it's Ctrl + F1 and hitting TAB until you get the help entry you want. But I still like VC6 help better. Waaaaa :-)
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Well, umm, to answer my own rant. Docking Dynamic Help and setting it to Auto Hide sort of works. Then it's Ctrl + F1 and hitting TAB until you get the help entry you want. But I still like VC6 help better. Waaaaa :-)
I don't like the dynamic help, the area for it is way too small and i couldn't get it where i liked it. Needless to say I've got my help setup like VC6 like (open MSDN as an app, then reuse that window for everything). James Sonork ID: 100.11138 - Hasaki "Not be to confused with 'The VD Project'. Which would be a very bad pr0n flick. :-D" - Michael P Butler Jan. 18, 2002
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Well, umm, to answer my own rant. Docking Dynamic Help and setting it to Auto Hide sort of works. Then it's Ctrl + F1 and hitting TAB until you get the help entry you want. But I still like VC6 help better. Waaaaa :-)
Henrik Husted wrote: But I still like VC6 help better. Waaaaa Well, in fact I observed deterioration of the VC++ helps starting from VC4. First they started to use that HTML help which is slow and doesn't integrate with VC IDE too well. Now it seems to get even worse as it has to fit the universal IDE requirements. It appears like VC is a constant victim firstly of the HTML help hype and now a .Net hype even with something so simple like a help system.
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Well, umm, to answer my own rant. Docking Dynamic Help and setting it to Auto Hide sort of works. Then it's Ctrl + F1 and hitting TAB until you get the help entry you want. But I still like VC6 help better. Waaaaa :-)
Henrik Husted wrote: But I still like VC6 help better. Waaaaa Welcome to MIke Dunn's [we hate vc/msdn 7 UI] club :-) Nish Sonork ID 100.9786 voidmain www.busterboy.org If you don't find me on CP, I'll be at Bob's HungOut
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Henrik Husted wrote: But I still like VC6 help better. Waaaaa Well, in fact I observed deterioration of the VC++ helps starting from VC4. First they started to use that HTML help which is slow and doesn't integrate with VC IDE too well. Now it seems to get even worse as it has to fit the universal IDE requirements. It appears like VC is a constant victim firstly of the HTML help hype and now a .Net hype even with something so simple like a help system.
George wrote: It appears like VC is a constant victim firstly of the HTML help hype and now a .Net hype even with something so simple like a help system. Well stated :-) Nish Sonork ID 100.9786 voidmain www.busterboy.org If you don't find me on CP, I'll be at Bob's HungOut
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Henrik Husted wrote: But I still like VC6 help better. Waaaaa Well, in fact I observed deterioration of the VC++ helps starting from VC4. First they started to use that HTML help which is slow and doesn't integrate with VC IDE too well. Now it seems to get even worse as it has to fit the universal IDE requirements. It appears like VC is a constant victim firstly of the HTML help hype and now a .Net hype even with something so simple like a help system.
I prefer the HTML Help over the old help (what would you call it? rtf based?). Buuuuuuuuuuuuuuut i'm just a young'in so take my opinion with a grain of salt :) James Sonork ID: 100.11138 - Hasaki "Not be to confused with 'The VD Project'. Which would be a very bad pr0n flick. :-D" - Michael P Butler Jan. 18, 2002 [edit: oops, changed my second html help to rtf help]
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Henrik Husted wrote: But I still like VC6 help better. Waaaaa Well, in fact I observed deterioration of the VC++ helps starting from VC4. First they started to use that HTML help which is slow and doesn't integrate with VC IDE too well. Now it seems to get even worse as it has to fit the universal IDE requirements. It appears like VC is a constant victim firstly of the HTML help hype and now a .Net hype even with something so simple like a help system.
VC4 had RTF help, didn't it? It was the move to HTML in VC5 that was abysmal. Incredibly slow and not well integrated. I can still hear the shouts of horror. cheers, Chris Maunder
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Henrik Husted wrote: But I still like VC6 help better. Waaaaa Welcome to MIke Dunn's [we hate vc/msdn 7 UI] club :-) Nish Sonork ID 100.9786 voidmain www.busterboy.org If you don't find me on CP, I'll be at Bob's HungOut
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what happened yesterday? sleeping? didn't hear a tone... or is your multithreading app working finally ? servus bernhard (someone said he is annoyed by talking - foreign - languages guys.. so i try to talk with him in english, altough we could talk german)
Sometimes I think the surest sign for intelligent life elsewhere in the universe is that none of them ever tried to contact us.
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Okay, I admit it. I can't remember every single API function that MS has ever created so once in a while I use Help to get some... well... help. Yes, I'm weak. Now, in VC7 I place my cursor at ::accept(...) and hit F1. What pops up? If you guessed "IHTMLInputElement2::accept Property" then you are correct. But I'm pretty sure that this doesn't apply to my socket programming. Now what? VC6 showed a nice dialog whenever the help was ambiguous, allowing you to select the correct one. How do I get this in VC7? Anyone? This is driving me nuts. Use 'Dynamic Help' you say? Well, then I have to use my mouse to click the link and I conveniently keep my mouse behind the monitor (read: I never use the mouse unless I'm surfing this new inter-web stuff :-) Okay, I'm better now :-) .Henrik
You may set at
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\VisualStudio\7.0\Dynamic Help
the value ofDisplay Debug Output in Retail
toYES
. The dynamic help window will depict then the searched keywords. I have written a doxygen-to-dynamic help converter, and it is quite interesting, which keywords are being used. Regards Thomas Finally with Sonork id: 100.10453 Thömmi
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what happened yesterday? sleeping? didn't hear a tone... or is your multithreading app working finally ? servus bernhard (someone said he is annoyed by talking - foreign - languages guys.. so i try to talk with him in english, altough we could talk german)
Sometimes I think the surest sign for intelligent life elsewhere in the universe is that none of them ever tried to contact us.
Bernhard wrote: what happened yesterday? sleeping? I can't afford beeing online all the time, still got the blu... still got a slow phone-modem-connection. Bernhard wrote: annoyed by talking - foreign - languages I wouldn't say annoyed (wos imma des a hast) but it's sometimes difficult to encrypt all the different slangs. I'm just glad CP exists! What do you think about the VC7. Neva saw it till yet, but it seems funny when you read the whole thread! mfg HintiFlo
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Bernhard wrote: what happened yesterday? sleeping? I can't afford beeing online all the time, still got the blu... still got a slow phone-modem-connection. Bernhard wrote: annoyed by talking - foreign - languages I wouldn't say annoyed (wos imma des a hast) but it's sometimes difficult to encrypt all the different slangs. I'm just glad CP exists! What do you think about the VC7. Neva saw it till yet, but it seems funny when you read the whole thread! mfg HintiFlo
annoyed = belästigt i'm happy too.. casue cp saved my ass more than once.. vc7.. i've never seen it (my company canceled the msdn subscription.. so i can't try it out..) i wonder by myself what got better.. and what got worse.. or so.. but i think i'll stick to vc6 for some time... have a nice day bernhard (btw.. i told you where i am from and what i am programming.. so what do you? i just know that you're interested in multitasking.. and that you like joseph newcomer)
Sometimes I think the surest sign for intelligent life elsewhere in the universe is that none of them ever tried to contact us.
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annoyed = belästigt i'm happy too.. casue cp saved my ass more than once.. vc7.. i've never seen it (my company canceled the msdn subscription.. so i can't try it out..) i wonder by myself what got better.. and what got worse.. or so.. but i think i'll stick to vc6 for some time... have a nice day bernhard (btw.. i told you where i am from and what i am programming.. so what do you? i just know that you're interested in multitasking.. and that you like joseph newcomer)
Sometimes I think the surest sign for intelligent life elsewhere in the universe is that none of them ever tried to contact us.
Bernhard wrote: btw.. i told you where i am from and what i am programming.. so what do you? i just know that you're interested in multitasking.. and that you like joseph newcomer I'm from Dambach, a tiny little in OÖ. I attended the HTL Steyr für Informatik (Hahaha..... ), recently I'm developing an app that programs aand reads data from a datalogger for temp-measurements. These measurements are done on cooling systems of semi-big engines (truck/generators/pumps). It needs (actually it should have, it gets, someday, maybe, no, it never gets any..) kinda realtime-capability for displaying data on the fly and the CDC (MFC-drawing context) already pi**es me off! I'm surfing CP for better draw-class. My full name is Florian Hinterleitner. On Monday I start at the FireDepartment in Linz. I#m afraid I'll get at least 2 mails/calls per day from the office (Engeneering Center Steyr): That feature would be nice, this operation could be faster, the diagramm flickers, what about a tiny animation here (aaaaahm, its a kernel-driver!),.... and so on. after I wanna study electronics in Vienna. your turn! mfg HintiFlo
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Bernhard wrote: btw.. i told you where i am from and what i am programming.. so what do you? i just know that you're interested in multitasking.. and that you like joseph newcomer I'm from Dambach, a tiny little in OÖ. I attended the HTL Steyr für Informatik (Hahaha..... ), recently I'm developing an app that programs aand reads data from a datalogger for temp-measurements. These measurements are done on cooling systems of semi-big engines (truck/generators/pumps). It needs (actually it should have, it gets, someday, maybe, no, it never gets any..) kinda realtime-capability for displaying data on the fly and the CDC (MFC-drawing context) already pi**es me off! I'm surfing CP for better draw-class. My full name is Florian Hinterleitner. On Monday I start at the FireDepartment in Linz. I#m afraid I'll get at least 2 mails/calls per day from the office (Engeneering Center Steyr): That feature would be nice, this operation could be faster, the diagramm flickers, what about a tiny animation here (aaaaahm, its a kernel-driver!),.... and so on. after I wanna study electronics in Vienna. your turn! mfg HintiFlo
well.. i'm from höchst.. little town in vlbg. i've attendet htl for energietechnik und leistungselektronik (hated it.. so i don't know what's this in english) in bregenz. after 5 funny years of learning interesting stuff bout electro-motors, generators and stuff like that i started as a programmer.. (i am still waiting for the military.. cause i had some injuries...) so.. i had to do some drawing work / still doing and most of the work are database - driven progs.. in my free time at work i've started writing some batch jobs in pl/1 for the host (grrrrrrrrrr.. ).. have a nice day bernhard
Sometimes I think the surest sign for intelligent life elsewhere in the universe is that none of them ever tried to contact us.
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Henrik Husted wrote: But I still like VC6 help better. Waaaaa Well, in fact I observed deterioration of the VC++ helps starting from VC4. First they started to use that HTML help which is slow and doesn't integrate with VC IDE too well. Now it seems to get even worse as it has to fit the universal IDE requirements. It appears like VC is a constant victim firstly of the HTML help hype and now a .Net hype even with something so simple like a help system.
I was just about to post exactly the same thing... Tim Lesher http://www.lesher.ws