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Desktop Linux Falters as Linux Use Shrinks for First Time

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  • E ed welch

    Did you forget to run "strip"? ;)

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    ed welch
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    Oops, didn't read you post correctly, you did run strip. But I think you must have made a mistake somewhere. I have written a cross-platform app and didn't notice any big size difference.

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      From the WinInfo Short Takes: Week of June 13[^]. Scroll down about a quarter of a page. cheers, Chris Maunder

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      Lost User
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      Actually it's a shrink in the growth rate Chris, I've seen this elsewhere. Personally it would be nice to use Linux as a desktop home OS but just not pratical, you spend too much time on the OS and too little carrying out tasks. Elaine :rose: The tigress is here :-D

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      • S Stan Shannon

        The only suprise about that is that so many people believed all the hype for so long. Too bad though - the industry would be better served in general if MS had some real competition.

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        Stan Shannon wrote: The only suprise about that is that so many people believed all the hype for so long. Too bad though - the industry would be better served in general if MS had some real competition. I would agree, even though we started a cross platform port, I held off until I could find a 3D toolset that gave us improvements in windows (our prime platform) and offered us crossplatform as a bonus. I wasn't sure the latter was just worth the money, though a few of our customers did; however, I hope that I covered the bases by getting gains on windows and other platforms rather than just the risk of Linux. _________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)

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        • E ed welch

          Oops, didn't read you post correctly, you did run strip. But I think you must have made a mistake somewhere. I have written a cross-platform app and didn't notice any big size difference.

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          Did your project uses templates and/or STL? I've noticed that STL usage seems to really slow GCC down, at least at the compile stage, and I've heard other complaints about the code it produces when templates are used. In my project I make use of both templates in my own classes plus STL. ¡El diablo está en mis pantalones! ¡Mire, mire! Real Mentats use only 100% pure, unfooled around with Sapho Juice(tm)! SELECT * FROM User WHERE Clue > 0 0 rows returned Save an Orange - Use the VCF!

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          • E ed welch

            gcc actually produces exe's comparable to microsoft compilors. The defect in Linux development tools is that they don't have anything that as user-friendly as Visual Studio. Also, bear in mind Linux is constantly improving KDE is supieror to the Windows desktop in many ways. They have a huge advantage, a new version of KDE is released every 6 months, compared to Windows XP which is now five years old. Also, there is some effort to make Linux distributions compatible and improve sw installation.

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            Matt Newman
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            ed welch wrote: Windows XP which is now five years old Umm... If you have a retail XP box look at the bottom I believe it will say Version 2002. Both of mine do, and if it is indeed 2007 I'm guessing I don't need to go back to work as they have probably terminated and forgotten about me. Just kidding, I'm not trying to be an ass just sarcastic humor :D Matt Newman
            Even the very best tools in the hands of an idiot will produce something of little or no value. - Chris Meech on Idiots

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              Actually it's a shrink in the growth rate Chris, I've seen this elsewhere. Personally it would be nice to use Linux as a desktop home OS but just not pratical, you spend too much time on the OS and too little carrying out tasks. Elaine :rose: The tigress is here :-D

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              S Douglas
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              Trollslayer wrote: just not pratical, you spend too much time on the OS and too little carrying out tasks. That’s the whole reason why I stopped using Linux period. I have better things to do with my time. Even if it’s only staring at the ceiling while I falsely hope to fall asleep. :) -------------------------------

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              • J Jim Crafton

                Did your project uses templates and/or STL? I've noticed that STL usage seems to really slow GCC down, at least at the compile stage, and I've heard other complaints about the code it produces when templates are used. In my project I make use of both templates in my own classes plus STL. ¡El diablo está en mis pantalones! ¡Mire, mire! Real Mentats use only 100% pure, unfooled around with Sapho Juice(tm)! SELECT * FROM User WHERE Clue > 0 0 rows returned Save an Orange - Use the VCF!

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                I use stl, but as the project is only a few hunderd lines I don't notice it particularly slow to compile. Templates make a lot of work for the compilor. I once worked on a large c++ windows project that made extensive use of templates and that *was* quite slow compiling.

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                  I use stl, but as the project is only a few hunderd lines I don't notice it particularly slow to compile. Templates make a lot of work for the compilor. I once worked on a large c++ windows project that made extensive use of templates and that *was* quite slow compiling.

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                  Jim Crafton
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                  Yeah, the VCF is around 160K LOC (or maybe less on the linux/OSX side). ¡El diablo está en mis pantalones! ¡Mire, mire! Real Mentats use only 100% pure, unfooled around with Sapho Juice(tm)! SELECT * FROM User WHERE Clue > 0 0 rows returned Save an Orange - Use the VCF!

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                  • M Matt Newman

                    ed welch wrote: Windows XP which is now five years old Umm... If you have a retail XP box look at the bottom I believe it will say Version 2002. Both of mine do, and if it is indeed 2007 I'm guessing I don't need to go back to work as they have probably terminated and forgotten about me. Just kidding, I'm not trying to be an ass just sarcastic humor :D Matt Newman
                    Even the very best tools in the hands of an idiot will produce something of little or no value. - Chris Meech on Idiots

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                    Matt Newman wrote: Just kidding, I'm not trying to be an ass just sarcastic humor (Just for the record though, Windows XP was released in 2001.)


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                      Matt Newman wrote: Just kidding, I'm not trying to be an ass just sarcastic humor (Just for the record though, Windows XP was released in 2001.)


                      Ðavid Wulff Audioscrobbler :: flickr Die Freiheit spielt auf allen Geigen (QT)

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                      David Wulff wrote: (Just for the record though, Windows XP was released in 2001.) Even so its still 2005 (2005-2001 != 5) Matt Newman
                      Even the very best tools in the hands of an idiot will produce something of little or no value. - Chris Meech on Idiots

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