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    Ray Cassick
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    http://money.cnn.com/2005/06/27/technology/broadband_ruling/index.htm?cnn=yes[^] "In a separate case Monday, the court ruled that software companies can be held liable for copyright infringement when individuals use their technology to download songs and movies illegally." This is ridiculous. It is akin to suing gun and bullet manufacturers when someone gets shot. It is not the technology but what it is used for. "Guns don't kill people, husbands that come home early do." "Peer-to-peer networks don't infringe on copyrights, the people using them do."


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      http://money.cnn.com/2005/06/27/technology/broadband_ruling/index.htm?cnn=yes[^] "In a separate case Monday, the court ruled that software companies can be held liable for copyright infringement when individuals use their technology to download songs and movies illegally." This is ridiculous. It is akin to suing gun and bullet manufacturers when someone gets shot. It is not the technology but what it is used for. "Guns don't kill people, husbands that come home early do." "Peer-to-peer networks don't infringe on copyrights, the people using them do."


      George Carlin wrote: "Don't sweat the petty things, and don't pet the sweaty things." Jörgen Sigvardsson wrote: If the physicists find a universal theory describing the laws of universe, I'm sure the asshole constant will be an integral part of that theory.
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      Rick York
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      I agree completely. Those lawsuits against gun manufacturers have attempted in the past and never ultimately succeeded. I fail to understand the logic in this decision.

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        http://money.cnn.com/2005/06/27/technology/broadband_ruling/index.htm?cnn=yes[^] "In a separate case Monday, the court ruled that software companies can be held liable for copyright infringement when individuals use their technology to download songs and movies illegally." This is ridiculous. It is akin to suing gun and bullet manufacturers when someone gets shot. It is not the technology but what it is used for. "Guns don't kill people, husbands that come home early do." "Peer-to-peer networks don't infringe on copyrights, the people using them do."


        George Carlin wrote: "Don't sweat the petty things, and don't pet the sweaty things." Jörgen Sigvardsson wrote: If the physicists find a universal theory describing the laws of universe, I'm sure the asshole constant will be an integral part of that theory.
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        Whoa, I did not expect such outcome. This effectively puts an end to any p2p application developed in the US. The only one to survive will probably be blizzard p2p type kind of system with very tight control over the distribution material. This is indeed, way too ridiculous, **AA have way too much money and way too much influence. There are loads of legitimate uses to p2p. I suppose now all p2p development will move offshore to avoid US law persecution...

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          http://money.cnn.com/2005/06/27/technology/broadband_ruling/index.htm?cnn=yes[^] "In a separate case Monday, the court ruled that software companies can be held liable for copyright infringement when individuals use their technology to download songs and movies illegally." This is ridiculous. It is akin to suing gun and bullet manufacturers when someone gets shot. It is not the technology but what it is used for. "Guns don't kill people, husbands that come home early do." "Peer-to-peer networks don't infringe on copyrights, the people using them do."


          George Carlin wrote: "Don't sweat the petty things, and don't pet the sweaty things." Jörgen Sigvardsson wrote: If the physicists find a universal theory describing the laws of universe, I'm sure the asshole constant will be an integral part of that theory.
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          I agree it sounds ridiculous, but you need to read the fine print. The Supreme Court was smart enough in this case to say something along the lines of "they are liable if they actively promote infringement of copyright law". This means that P2P tools made without infringement intent or promotion there of should still be ok. I still there's a matter of personal responsibility missing here, but it's not as bad as it sounds. Remember, the gun and bullet manufacturer's don't promote people to murder each other. They promote defense and hunting, both of which are legal (to varying degrees, depending on the locale).

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            I agree it sounds ridiculous, but you need to read the fine print. The Supreme Court was smart enough in this case to say something along the lines of "they are liable if they actively promote infringement of copyright law". This means that P2P tools made without infringement intent or promotion there of should still be ok. I still there's a matter of personal responsibility missing here, but it's not as bad as it sounds. Remember, the gun and bullet manufacturer's don't promote people to murder each other. They promote defense and hunting, both of which are legal (to varying degrees, depending on the locale).

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            lmuth wrote: They promote defense and hunting, both of which are legal (to varying degrees, depending on the locale). Yeah, but that does not stop them from spending millions each year on litigation protection. Something that most small software companies cannot afford to do. Laws like this end putting a ton of stress on the small developers and keep the power in the hands of the big companies that can afford to hire big layers.


            George Carlin wrote: "Don't sweat the petty things, and don't pet the sweaty things." Jörgen Sigvardsson wrote: If the physicists find a universal theory describing the laws of universe, I'm sure the asshole constant will be an integral part of that theory.
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              lmuth wrote: They promote defense and hunting, both of which are legal (to varying degrees, depending on the locale). Yeah, but that does not stop them from spending millions each year on litigation protection. Something that most small software companies cannot afford to do. Laws like this end putting a ton of stress on the small developers and keep the power in the hands of the big companies that can afford to hire big layers.


              George Carlin wrote: "Don't sweat the petty things, and don't pet the sweaty things." Jörgen Sigvardsson wrote: If the physicists find a universal theory describing the laws of universe, I'm sure the asshole constant will be an integral part of that theory.
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              Tim Smith
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              The ruling doesn't really change that. Legal grounds has little to do with starting legal action. Tim Smith I'm going to patent thought. I have yet to see any prior art.

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                http://money.cnn.com/2005/06/27/technology/broadband_ruling/index.htm?cnn=yes[^] "In a separate case Monday, the court ruled that software companies can be held liable for copyright infringement when individuals use their technology to download songs and movies illegally." This is ridiculous. It is akin to suing gun and bullet manufacturers when someone gets shot. It is not the technology but what it is used for. "Guns don't kill people, husbands that come home early do." "Peer-to-peer networks don't infringe on copyrights, the people using them do."


                George Carlin wrote: "Don't sweat the petty things, and don't pet the sweaty things." Jörgen Sigvardsson wrote: If the physicists find a universal theory describing the laws of universe, I'm sure the asshole constant will be an integral part of that theory.
                My Blog[^]


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                Gary R Wheeler
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                Ray Cassick wrote: It is akin to suing gun and bullet manufacturers when someone gets shot You remember all of the lawyers in the tobacco lawsuits? They're suing the gun companies now.


                Software Zen: delete this;

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