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    Doug Goulden
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    Just flipped by CNN and saw reports of explosions again in London:sigh:. Hope all you Brits are OK.:rose: Uptight Ex-Military Republican married to a Commie Lib - How weird is that?

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      Just flipped by CNN and saw reports of explosions again in London:sigh:. Hope all you Brits are OK.:rose: Uptight Ex-Military Republican married to a Commie Lib - How weird is that?

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      Lost User
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      Looks like "detonator only" explosions - reports of one injury. Also reports of a guy leaving a stachel on a train and then running out of a Tube station - people were shouting at others to stop him, but apparently he got away...

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        Just flipped by CNN and saw reports of explosions again in London:sigh:. Hope all you Brits are OK.:rose: Uptight Ex-Military Republican married to a Commie Lib - How weird is that?

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        J4amieC
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        Looks like a warning of "We can do it again" IMO.

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          Looks like a warning of "We can do it again" IMO.

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          Lost User
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          I disagree. If they could do it again, on the scale of two weeks ago, they would have done. They wouldn't risk getting caught sending a warning.

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            I disagree. If they could do it again, on the scale of two weeks ago, they would have done. They wouldn't risk getting caught sending a warning.

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            Doug Goulden
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            Sounds to wide spread to be just a prank though..... Uptight Ex-Military Republican married to a Commie Lib - How weird is that?

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              Just flipped by CNN and saw reports of explosions again in London:sigh:. Hope all you Brits are OK.:rose: Uptight Ex-Military Republican married to a Commie Lib - How weird is that?

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              legalAlien
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              Grrr. Was on the tube (not any of the lines affected) coming back from a meeting via Liverpool Street. If these moronic freaks hate us and our culture so much why don't they just fuck off and leave us alone? Answer: cos they's rather we all fell in under their rule of hate and fear. Nice religion. Remind me to sign up. When hell has frozen, melted and frozen again. Which is where these twats should be. Now. Yes, I'm bloody angry again.

              The true price of freedom is war.

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                Sounds to wide spread to be just a prank though..... Uptight Ex-Military Republican married to a Commie Lib - How weird is that?

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                Lost User
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                We'll know soon enough - they'll be on CCTV all over the place.

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                  We'll know soon enough - they'll be on CCTV all over the place.

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                  Doug Goulden
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                  Just heard a report on Sky News the police arrested someone at a hospital near one of the Subway stations. Hopefully they get the b*stards quickly. Uptight Ex-Military Republican married to a Commie Lib - How weird is that?

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                    Just heard a report on Sky News the police arrested someone at a hospital near one of the Subway stations. Hopefully they get the b*stards quickly. Uptight Ex-Military Republican married to a Commie Lib - How weird is that?

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                    The stupid bastard probably burned himself setting the thing off. I do hope they have someone in custody and I do hope he squeals like a pig.

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                      The stupid bastard probably burned himself setting the thing off. I do hope they have someone in custody and I do hope he squeals like a pig.

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                      Doug Goulden
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                      I have a lot of woodworking tools out in the garage that I would be more than happy to use to loosen the guys lips. I have a 4 inch belt sander that would definitely be persuasive...... Uptight Ex-Military Republican married to a Commie Lib - How weird is that?

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                        I have a lot of woodworking tools out in the garage that I would be more than happy to use to loosen the guys lips. I have a 4 inch belt sander that would definitely be persuasive...... Uptight Ex-Military Republican married to a Commie Lib - How weird is that?

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                        legalAlien
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                        Can I volunteer to help? I have no experience at that sort of thing but am a quick learner and am eager to acquire new skills.

                        The true price of freedom is war.

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                          Grrr. Was on the tube (not any of the lines affected) coming back from a meeting via Liverpool Street. If these moronic freaks hate us and our culture so much why don't they just fuck off and leave us alone? Answer: cos they's rather we all fell in under their rule of hate and fear. Nice religion. Remind me to sign up. When hell has frozen, melted and frozen again. Which is where these twats should be. Now. Yes, I'm bloody angry again.

                          The true price of freedom is war.

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                          Stan Shannon
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                          Your anger is misplaced. Murderous assholes exist in every society and every culture. The question you have to ask is how can so many of these guys exist in a closely knit community without a signigicant number of their neighbors not having some suspicion about what they are up to. That is something to get mad about - those who are hiding their cowardice behind a veil of moderation, hiding behind thier "peaceful" religion, hiding behind the civility of a too tolerant society. Maybe its time to start being a tad less civil and start making demands rather than requests. (ie. Stop saying "could you please monitor your wackos a little more closely" and start saying "if your wackos keep this up, we are going to start random deportations by the fucking busload"). Tolerance is a beautiful thing until the intolerant figure out how to take advantage of it. "Capitalism is the source of all true freedom."

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                            Can I volunteer to help? I have no experience at that sort of thing but am a quick learner and am eager to acquire new skills.

                            The true price of freedom is war.

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                            Doug Goulden
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                            I would be more than happy to accept offers of help, but we need to avoid getting carried away.... you have to make sure that the guy can keep talking.... remember your hearing protection Uptight Ex-Military Republican married to a Commie Lib - How weird is that?

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                              Your anger is misplaced. Murderous assholes exist in every society and every culture. The question you have to ask is how can so many of these guys exist in a closely knit community without a signigicant number of their neighbors not having some suspicion about what they are up to. That is something to get mad about - those who are hiding their cowardice behind a veil of moderation, hiding behind thier "peaceful" religion, hiding behind the civility of a too tolerant society. Maybe its time to start being a tad less civil and start making demands rather than requests. (ie. Stop saying "could you please monitor your wackos a little more closely" and start saying "if your wackos keep this up, we are going to start random deportations by the fucking busload"). Tolerance is a beautiful thing until the intolerant figure out how to take advantage of it. "Capitalism is the source of all true freedom."

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                              Stan Shannon wrote: Maybe its time to start being a tad less civil and start making demands rather than requests. (ie. Stop saying "could you please monitor your wackos a little more closely" and start saying "if your wackos keep this up, we are going to start random deportations by the f***ing busload"). A very non-PC way of hitting the nail on the head. I wonder how Europe is going to deal with the reality of terrorism after the bombings in LOndon and Madrid, and the murder of that Dutch politician. While by themselves these acts can't be used to condemn the whole Muslim community, reports like this http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/2005/07/007132print.html[^] make it hard for people to be very supportive of the so called moderates. Uptight Ex-Military Republican married to a Commie Lib - How weird is that?

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                                The stupid bastard probably burned himself setting the thing off. I do hope they have someone in custody and I do hope he squeals like a pig.

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                                Rhys Gravell
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                                Robert Edward Caldecott wrote: The stupid bastard probably burned himself setting the thing off. You may well be right apparently... Tube cleared after small blasts[^] Rhys A bus station is where a bus stops. A train station is where a train stops. On my desk I have a workstation... Vampireware /n/, a project, capable of sucking the lifeblood out of anyone unfortunate enough to be assigned to it, which never actually sees the light of day, but nonetheless refuses to die.

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                                  Stan Shannon wrote: Maybe its time to start being a tad less civil and start making demands rather than requests. (ie. Stop saying "could you please monitor your wackos a little more closely" and start saying "if your wackos keep this up, we are going to start random deportations by the f***ing busload"). A very non-PC way of hitting the nail on the head. I wonder how Europe is going to deal with the reality of terrorism after the bombings in LOndon and Madrid, and the murder of that Dutch politician. While by themselves these acts can't be used to condemn the whole Muslim community, reports like this http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/2005/07/007132print.html[^] make it hard for people to be very supportive of the so called moderates. Uptight Ex-Military Republican married to a Commie Lib - How weird is that?

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                                  Stan Shannon
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                                  The question is how does a true moderate behave when confronted with violent extremism? I would submit that every single allied troop who died on d-day was a moderate. That is how a moderate behaves. Every true moderate knows that there is no "moderate" way to respond to extremism and murder. At some point you have to be willing to be as out extreme as the extremist. I am convinced that "moderate" must be some middle eastern word for "coward". "Capitalism is the source of all true freedom."

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                                    The question is how does a true moderate behave when confronted with violent extremism? I would submit that every single allied troop who died on d-day was a moderate. That is how a moderate behaves. Every true moderate knows that there is no "moderate" way to respond to extremism and murder. At some point you have to be willing to be as out extreme as the extremist. I am convinced that "moderate" must be some middle eastern word for "coward". "Capitalism is the source of all true freedom."

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                                    Thank you for your wise words. I am angry at the *moment* but am sober enough to know that Europe has its collective head stuck deep in the sand and does not want to see that the status quo has a price that may be too high to pay. [Damn cookies: got logged out again: legal Alien]

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                                      Your anger is misplaced. Murderous assholes exist in every society and every culture. The question you have to ask is how can so many of these guys exist in a closely knit community without a signigicant number of their neighbors not having some suspicion about what they are up to. That is something to get mad about - those who are hiding their cowardice behind a veil of moderation, hiding behind thier "peaceful" religion, hiding behind the civility of a too tolerant society. Maybe its time to start being a tad less civil and start making demands rather than requests. (ie. Stop saying "could you please monitor your wackos a little more closely" and start saying "if your wackos keep this up, we are going to start random deportations by the fucking busload"). Tolerance is a beautiful thing until the intolerant figure out how to take advantage of it. "Capitalism is the source of all true freedom."

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                                      Alvaro Mendez
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                                      Stan Shannon wrote: Murderous assholes exist in every society and every culture. Yes, unfortunately. Stan Shannon wrote: The question you have to ask is how can so many of these guys exist in a closely knit community without a signigicant number of their neighbors not having some suspicion about what they are up to. So many? How many are we talking about here? Dozens, hundreds? Or just 2 or 3? Are you proposing that neighbors start snooping and spying on each other, and reporting activities they deem suspicious to the authorities? There are plenty of countries that already have that system well in place: North Korea, China, Cuba. Is that where you want us to be, Stan? Throw in a one-party system of government, ran by the extreme right (of course), and we'll be good to go, right? Alvaro


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                                        The question is how does a true moderate behave when confronted with violent extremism? I would submit that every single allied troop who died on d-day was a moderate. That is how a moderate behaves. Every true moderate knows that there is no "moderate" way to respond to extremism and murder. At some point you have to be willing to be as out extreme as the extremist. I am convinced that "moderate" must be some middle eastern word for "coward". "Capitalism is the source of all true freedom."

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                                        Stan Shannon wrote: I am convinced that "moderate" must be some middle eastern word for "coward". It could be rather relgious than middle eastern. Maybe Heaven forbids telling on a brother.

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                                          Thank you for your wise words. I am angry at the *moment* but am sober enough to know that Europe has its collective head stuck deep in the sand and does not want to see that the status quo has a price that may be too high to pay. [Damn cookies: got logged out again: legal Alien]

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                                          I have always felt that Europe, as a whole, overreacted to the horrors of WWII, and went too far in the direction of openess and tolerance. I fear they are going to ultimately pay a higher price for the latter extreme then they did for the former. People who wish to understand why we Americans re-elected Bush need look no further than this. Our democrat party is simply too philosphically aligned with the European mind set, and that scares the hell out of a lot of us who feel that the comfortable middle ground includes questioning the concept of unlimited, non-judgemental tolerance. "Capitalism is the source of all true freedom."

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