No more Visual Fox Pro!
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:laugh: You were all so right about it being a nightmare language. I'm back with C++ and it feels better than when I got back with my ex and we managed to sort out all. Found an interesting book by someone who wrote a C++ interpreter called Under C.(C++ by Example-Steve Donovan) Made me realize that there are better things to do in life than make lots of money and get on with everyone you work with. Love and dynamite comes in small packages
Man!!! I didnt know Foxpro programmers still existed! Nish p.s. To me visual foxpro was always an option I had to untick when installing VS :-) Nish was here, now Nish has gone; He left his soul, to turn you on; Those who knew Nish, knew him well; Those who didn't, can go to hell. I like to :jig: on the Code Project Sonork ID 100.9786 voidmain www.busterboy.org
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Years ago, I attended a meeting with Micro$oft in Phoenix, where I was able to chat with the people who develop this stuff for us. One of the developers I talked to declined to give an "official" answer when I asked which technology I should devote more time to - Access or FoxPro. But the unofficial answer was, spend more time with Access. FoxPro was on its way out then, and it's looking like Access is soon to follow. But I like it, and intend to keep using it when appropriate... If you love C++ and can figure out how to make it talk to a database, go for it. Doing what you love is far more important than making lots of money, but I'd be cautious about the phrase about getting on with everyone. In this forum, there will be more than one way of reading that:-D
Access is the only file based database technology we have now. Everything else is port based. It's real easy with access. simply copy and distribute the MDB along with your software. Windows comes with the Access ODBC drivers pre-installed. Nish Nish was here, now Nish has gone; He left his soul, to turn you on; Those who knew Nish, knew him well; Those who didn't, can go to hell. I like to :jig: on the Code Project Sonork ID 100.9786 voidmain www.busterboy.org
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Access is the only file based database technology we have now. Everything else is port based. It's real easy with access. simply copy and distribute the MDB along with your software. Windows comes with the Access ODBC drivers pre-installed. Nish Nish was here, now Nish has gone; He left his soul, to turn you on; Those who knew Nish, knew him well; Those who didn't, can go to hell. I like to :jig: on the Code Project Sonork ID 100.9786 voidmain www.busterboy.org
Now I'm confused, Nish. What do you mean by port-based? I'm familiar with the single file .mdb organization for Access databases, but I was under the impression that other approaches use a similar format. What if I create a multi-table database at runtime in VB - will that generate multiple files, or just one distributable resource?
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Access is the only file based database technology we have now. Everything else is port based. It's real easy with access. simply copy and distribute the MDB along with your software. Windows comes with the Access ODBC drivers pre-installed. Nish Nish was here, now Nish has gone; He left his soul, to turn you on; Those who knew Nish, knew him well; Those who didn't, can go to hell. I like to :jig: on the Code Project Sonork ID 100.9786 voidmain www.busterboy.org
Nish [BusterBoy] wrote: Windows comes with the Access ODBC drivers pre-installed Not if you use a newer version of Access :mad: At least MDAC 2.6 has fixed those problems for me :) James Sonork ID: 100.11138 - Hasaki "My words but a whisper -- your deafness a SHOUT. I may make you feel but I can't make you think." - Thick as a Brick, Jethro Tull 1972
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:laugh: You were all so right about it being a nightmare language. I'm back with C++ and it feels better than when I got back with my ex and we managed to sort out all. Found an interesting book by someone who wrote a C++ interpreter called Under C.(C++ by Example-Steve Donovan) Made me realize that there are better things to do in life than make lots of money and get on with everyone you work with. Love and dynamite comes in small packages
I'm not sure if it was intentionally done, but your email address is being rejected... It's either a bogus address in your profile, or a possible problem with your ISP. If you selected the option to be notified when someone posts a reply to your posting, it automatically sends an email to you, addressed as from the person replying. My reply resulted in an email response indicating an unknown user.
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Man!!! I didnt know Foxpro programmers still existed! Nish p.s. To me visual foxpro was always an option I had to untick when installing VS :-) Nish was here, now Nish has gone; He left his soul, to turn you on; Those who knew Nish, knew him well; Those who didn't, can go to hell. I like to :jig: on the Code Project Sonork ID 100.9786 voidmain www.busterboy.org
Not only do they exist, when I tried to resign my boss wouldn't let me. He told me that C++ was redundant, that Foxpro was the only way to go, that there were IMPORTANT people keeping a eye on Microsoft stopping them from ruining a good product or discontinuing it and that he could not possibly allow me to ruin my live and career by resigning! The only way I could finally resign was to send a formal letter of resignation by E-mail. To overcome everything is to reach an invisible height where users cease to exist
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Now I'm confused, Nish. What do you mean by port-based? I'm familiar with the single file .mdb organization for Access databases, but I was under the impression that other approaches use a similar format. What if I create a multi-table database at runtime in VB - will that generate multiple files, or just one distributable resource?
Roger Wright wrote: What do you mean by port-based? Access is file based, the drivers for it do the work of pulling the data out of the file. MSDE/SQL Server plus others store the data in a file, but the drivers merely communicate with a server process to get the data out; the communication is usually done with a network driver of some sort (Named pipes, TCP/IP, AppleTalk to name a few). James Sonork ID: 100.11138 - Hasaki "My words but a whisper -- your deafness a SHOUT. I may make you feel but I can't make you think." - Thick as a Brick, Jethro Tull 1972
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Years ago, I attended a meeting with Micro$oft in Phoenix, where I was able to chat with the people who develop this stuff for us. One of the developers I talked to declined to give an "official" answer when I asked which technology I should devote more time to - Access or FoxPro. But the unofficial answer was, spend more time with Access. FoxPro was on its way out then, and it's looking like Access is soon to follow. But I like it, and intend to keep using it when appropriate... If you love C++ and can figure out how to make it talk to a database, go for it. Doing what you love is far more important than making lots of money, but I'd be cautious about the phrase about getting on with everyone. In this forum, there will be more than one way of reading that:-D
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Years ago, I attended a meeting with Micro$oft in Phoenix, where I was able to chat with the people who develop this stuff for us. One of the developers I talked to declined to give an "official" answer when I asked which technology I should devote more time to - Access or FoxPro. But the unofficial answer was, spend more time with Access. FoxPro was on its way out then, and it's looking like Access is soon to follow. But I like it, and intend to keep using it when appropriate... If you love C++ and can figure out how to make it talk to a database, go for it. Doing what you love is far more important than making lots of money, but I'd be cautious about the phrase about getting on with everyone. In this forum, there will be more than one way of reading that:-D
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I'm not sure if it was intentionally done, but your email address is being rejected... It's either a bogus address in your profile, or a possible problem with your ISP. If you selected the option to be notified when someone posts a reply to your posting, it automatically sends an email to you, addressed as from the person replying. My reply resulted in an email response indicating an unknown user.
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Nish [BusterBoy] wrote: Windows comes with the Access ODBC drivers pre-installed Not if you use a newer version of Access :mad: At least MDAC 2.6 has fixed those problems for me :) James Sonork ID: 100.11138 - Hasaki "My words but a whisper -- your deafness a SHOUT. I may make you feel but I can't make you think." - Thick as a Brick, Jethro Tull 1972
James T. Johnson wrote: Not if you use a newer version of Access At least MDAC 2.6 has fixed those problems for me Yup. I had that same trouble here. Used ADO coolly and sent it to the clients. Nothing worked. Then I realized that my machine had MDAC 2.7 [which was installed by VS .NET beta 2.0] and I sent it to them and things were fine... Nish Nish was here, now Nish has gone; He left his soul, to turn you on; Those who knew Nish, knew him well; Those who didn't, can go to hell. I like to :jig: on the Code Project Sonork ID 100.9786 voidmain www.busterboy.org
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Now I'm confused, Nish. What do you mean by port-based? I'm familiar with the single file .mdb organization for Access databases, but I was under the impression that other approaches use a similar format. What if I create a multi-table database at runtime in VB - will that generate multiple files, or just one distributable resource?
SQL server, MySQL, PostGres, Oracle all have a TCP server listening at some port. Clients [the ADO/ODBC drivers] connect to this port and use TCP chat. In Access they open the MDB and read it as a flat binary file . Nish Nish was here, now Nish has gone; He left his soul, to turn you on; Those who knew Nish, knew him well; Those who didn't, can go to hell. I like to :jig: on the Code Project Sonork ID 100.9786 voidmain www.busterboy.org
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Not only do they exist, when I tried to resign my boss wouldn't let me. He told me that C++ was redundant, that Foxpro was the only way to go, that there were IMPORTANT people keeping a eye on Microsoft stopping them from ruining a good product or discontinuing it and that he could not possibly allow me to ruin my live and career by resigning! The only way I could finally resign was to send a formal letter of resignation by E-mail. To overcome everything is to reach an invisible height where users cease to exist
Jasmyn wrote: He told me that C++ was redundant, that Foxpro was the only way to go :omg: You better not say that when Christian Graus is around. He'll annihilate you instantly for that. And your boss too. :-) Nish Nish was here, now Nish has gone; He left his soul, to turn you on; Those who knew Nish, knew him well; Those who didn't, can go to hell. I like to :jig: on the Code Project Sonork ID 100.9786 voidmain www.busterboy.org
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Not only do they exist, when I tried to resign my boss wouldn't let me. He told me that C++ was redundant, that Foxpro was the only way to go, that there were IMPORTANT people keeping a eye on Microsoft stopping them from ruining a good product or discontinuing it and that he could not possibly allow me to ruin my live and career by resigning! The only way I could finally resign was to send a formal letter of resignation by E-mail. To overcome everything is to reach an invisible height where users cease to exist
Jasmyn wrote: when I tried to resign my boss wouldn't let me. How does THAT work ? Jasmyn wrote: He told me that C++ was redundant, that Foxpro was the only way to go Tell him I said he's just won the stupidest man of the year award. C++ is redundant ? FOXPRO is the only way to go ? Can I have this guy's email address ? Jasmyn wrote: that there were IMPORTANT people keeping a eye on Microsoft stopping them from ruining a good product or discontinuing it My five year old has imaginary friends as well, but she recognises that they are in her imagination ( you've got no idea how cute it is when a five year old talks about her imagination, but I digress ). Jasmyn wrote: that he could not possibly allow me to ruin my live and career by resigning! More like he knew that he had no chance of finding anyone else willing to accept the resume stain that is FoxPro as a career choice. For the record, M$ bought FoxPro because it was better than Access, and they bought it to kill it, and bury the body in the desert where no-one would find it. Christian I have come to clean zee pooollll. - Michael Martin Dec 30, 2001 Picture the daffodil. And while you do that, I'll be over here going through your stuff.
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Jasmyn wrote: when I tried to resign my boss wouldn't let me. How does THAT work ? Jasmyn wrote: He told me that C++ was redundant, that Foxpro was the only way to go Tell him I said he's just won the stupidest man of the year award. C++ is redundant ? FOXPRO is the only way to go ? Can I have this guy's email address ? Jasmyn wrote: that there were IMPORTANT people keeping a eye on Microsoft stopping them from ruining a good product or discontinuing it My five year old has imaginary friends as well, but she recognises that they are in her imagination ( you've got no idea how cute it is when a five year old talks about her imagination, but I digress ). Jasmyn wrote: that he could not possibly allow me to ruin my live and career by resigning! More like he knew that he had no chance of finding anyone else willing to accept the resume stain that is FoxPro as a career choice. For the record, M$ bought FoxPro because it was better than Access, and they bought it to kill it, and bury the body in the desert where no-one would find it. Christian I have come to clean zee pooollll. - Michael Martin Dec 30, 2001 Picture the daffodil. And while you do that, I'll be over here going through your stuff.
The way you refuse to let someone resign is you say: "Why ever could you wish to leave?" and to every answer you reply with what you consider to be sound reasoning and a definite "now that that is sorted give me the next problem" Very effective especially if you keep on repeating "No, definitely not" and talk over whoever is trying to argue a point. I tried to introduce the idea of COM but got it's been working fine for the last 20 years why change. THAT is when I decided to leave. As for Microsoft burying the body in the desert I think this guy waited till they were gone and reserrected it chanting "never change", and is now single handedly keeping it alive. He claims THEY will never allow Microsoft to get away with IT so Microsoft is toeing the line, the result being Visual FoxPro. I tried telling him that not one of the 7 bookshops I contacted even knew what FoxPro was never mind stocking the books, he replied that we live in a backward country and what else did I need to discuss with him. In his defense he is a nutter but he truly beliefs alll he says and his wife is a fab cook;P To overcome everything is to reach an invisible height where users cease to exist
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The way you refuse to let someone resign is you say: "Why ever could you wish to leave?" and to every answer you reply with what you consider to be sound reasoning and a definite "now that that is sorted give me the next problem" Very effective especially if you keep on repeating "No, definitely not" and talk over whoever is trying to argue a point. I tried to introduce the idea of COM but got it's been working fine for the last 20 years why change. THAT is when I decided to leave. As for Microsoft burying the body in the desert I think this guy waited till they were gone and reserrected it chanting "never change", and is now single handedly keeping it alive. He claims THEY will never allow Microsoft to get away with IT so Microsoft is toeing the line, the result being Visual FoxPro. I tried telling him that not one of the 7 bookshops I contacted even knew what FoxPro was never mind stocking the books, he replied that we live in a backward country and what else did I need to discuss with him. In his defense he is a nutter but he truly beliefs alll he says and his wife is a fab cook;P To overcome everything is to reach an invisible height where users cease to exist
You can thank me now for warning you that CG would blow his fuse on seeing your boss's comments which you have quoted :-) Nish Nish was here, now Nish has gone; He left his soul, to turn you on; Those who knew Nish, knew him well; Those who didn't, can go to hell. I like to :jig: on the Code Project Sonork ID 100.9786 voidmain www.busterboy.org
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The way you refuse to let someone resign is you say: "Why ever could you wish to leave?" and to every answer you reply with what you consider to be sound reasoning and a definite "now that that is sorted give me the next problem" Very effective especially if you keep on repeating "No, definitely not" and talk over whoever is trying to argue a point. I tried to introduce the idea of COM but got it's been working fine for the last 20 years why change. THAT is when I decided to leave. As for Microsoft burying the body in the desert I think this guy waited till they were gone and reserrected it chanting "never change", and is now single handedly keeping it alive. He claims THEY will never allow Microsoft to get away with IT so Microsoft is toeing the line, the result being Visual FoxPro. I tried telling him that not one of the 7 bookshops I contacted even knew what FoxPro was never mind stocking the books, he replied that we live in a backward country and what else did I need to discuss with him. In his defense he is a nutter but he truly beliefs alll he says and his wife is a fab cook;P To overcome everything is to reach an invisible height where users cease to exist
Jasmyn wrote: you consider to be sound reasoning and a definite "now that that is sorted give me the next problem" Very effective especially if you keep on repeating "No, definitely not" and talk over whoever is trying to argue a point. The way to respond to this is to calmly say 'you may feel you're resolving the issues, but I do not. If you're refusing to accept my resignation, feel free to keep putting money in my bank account after I stop coming in, which will be on this date...' Jasmyn wrote: I tried to introduce the idea of COM but got it's been working fine for the last 20 years why change. THAT is when I decided to leave. Danger, danger !! If you can't intrduce a technology that is on the way *out* because it's too new, you should run FAST. Jasmyn wrote: He claims THEY will never allow Microsoft to get away with IT so Microsoft is toeing the line, the result being Visual FoxPro. Do you work for IBM ? This is really funny... Jasmyn wrote: In his defense he is a nutter but he truly beliefs alll he says and his wife is a fab cook *grin* I admire your ability to see the best in people.... Christian I have come to clean zee pooollll. - Michael Martin Dec 30, 2001 Picture the daffodil. And while you do that, I'll be over here going through your stuff.
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Jasmyn wrote: when I tried to resign my boss wouldn't let me. How does THAT work ? Jasmyn wrote: He told me that C++ was redundant, that Foxpro was the only way to go Tell him I said he's just won the stupidest man of the year award. C++ is redundant ? FOXPRO is the only way to go ? Can I have this guy's email address ? Jasmyn wrote: that there were IMPORTANT people keeping a eye on Microsoft stopping them from ruining a good product or discontinuing it My five year old has imaginary friends as well, but she recognises that they are in her imagination ( you've got no idea how cute it is when a five year old talks about her imagination, but I digress ). Jasmyn wrote: that he could not possibly allow me to ruin my live and career by resigning! More like he knew that he had no chance of finding anyone else willing to accept the resume stain that is FoxPro as a career choice. For the record, M$ bought FoxPro because it was better than Access, and they bought it to kill it, and bury the body in the desert where no-one would find it. Christian I have come to clean zee pooollll. - Michael Martin Dec 30, 2001 Picture the daffodil. And while you do that, I'll be over here going through your stuff.
LOL I had warned him CG :-) Nish Nish was here, now Nish has gone; He left his soul, to turn you on; Those who knew Nish, knew him well; Those who didn't, can go to hell. I like to :jig: on the Code Project Sonork ID 100.9786 voidmain www.busterboy.org
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Jasmyn wrote: you consider to be sound reasoning and a definite "now that that is sorted give me the next problem" Very effective especially if you keep on repeating "No, definitely not" and talk over whoever is trying to argue a point. The way to respond to this is to calmly say 'you may feel you're resolving the issues, but I do not. If you're refusing to accept my resignation, feel free to keep putting money in my bank account after I stop coming in, which will be on this date...' Jasmyn wrote: I tried to introduce the idea of COM but got it's been working fine for the last 20 years why change. THAT is when I decided to leave. Danger, danger !! If you can't intrduce a technology that is on the way *out* because it's too new, you should run FAST. Jasmyn wrote: He claims THEY will never allow Microsoft to get away with IT so Microsoft is toeing the line, the result being Visual FoxPro. Do you work for IBM ? This is really funny... Jasmyn wrote: In his defense he is a nutter but he truly beliefs alll he says and his wife is a fab cook *grin* I admire your ability to see the best in people.... Christian I have come to clean zee pooollll. - Michael Martin Dec 30, 2001 Picture the daffodil. And while you do that, I'll be over here going through your stuff.
****Christian Graus wrote: The way to respond to this is to calmly say 'you may feel you're resolving the issues, but I do not. If you're refusing to accept my resignation, feel free to keep putting money in my bank account after I stop coming in, which will be on this date...' Ha, Ha I wish I spoke to you first before resigning. I have a friend who worked for a telephone company, hated it so much he just got up and left on day four and they continued paying his salary into his acount for the next 5 months. Never even realized he was gone:laugh: To overcome everything is to reach an invisible height where users cease to exist
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LOL I had warned him CG :-) Nish Nish was here, now Nish has gone; He left his soul, to turn you on; Those who knew Nish, knew him well; Those who didn't, can go to hell. I like to :jig: on the Code Project Sonork ID 100.9786 voidmain www.busterboy.org
Nish [BusterBoy] wrote: I had warned him CG Warned about what ( he said innocently ). BTW I believe Jasmyn is a girls name. It's certainly a pretty name. I reckon a guy with that name would get beat up a lot. Christian I have come to clean zee pooollll. - Michael Martin Dec 30, 2001 Picture the daffodil. And while you do that, I'll be over here going through your stuff.