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  • S Stan Shannon

    I would nominate the character Tim Allen played in 'Galaxy Quest', or the Harrison Ford character in Blade Runner. "Capitalism is the source of all true freedom."

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    Stan, yet again you hit the nail on the head with an atomic hammer. Galaxy Quest is the double-dogs bollocks of a film and Tim Allen was excellent in the part. I still laugh each time I see it. It would be best if he were offered a part in whatever the Star Trek franchise comes up with next. Maybe Galaxy Quest, the tv series?

    The true price of freedom is war.

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      Stan, yet again you hit the nail on the head with an atomic hammer. Galaxy Quest is the double-dogs bollocks of a film and Tim Allen was excellent in the part. I still laugh each time I see it. It would be best if he were offered a part in whatever the Star Trek franchise comes up with next. Maybe Galaxy Quest, the tv series?

      The true price of freedom is war.

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      legalAlien wrote: Galaxy Quest is the double-dogs bollocks of a film and Tim Allen was excellent in the part. I still laugh each time I see it. Absolutely. It gets no respect, but, in truth, is probably one of the top five best science fiction movies ever made. It is probably my third favorite SF movie - right behind The Day the Earth Stood Still and 2001. (If we are talking true science fiction, that is. Movies like 'Alien' don't count because, while an excellent movie, it was really only a scary monster story, and 'Star Wars' is more sword and socery than true science fiction) "Capitalism is the source of all true freedom."

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        Michael P Butler wrote: Riker was just an annoying, smirking smug git. Mind you if I was shagging Troi, then I think I'd do a little bit of smirking too. (Although personally I preferred Tasha, even though she had a taste for androids ) I actually laughed out loud at this. Yes, I am only extracting urine with my comments and am being deliberatly (where I can be) contentious cos I'm hyper over a rollout that starts in 1 hour. I always thought (until Enterprise) that TNG was the best Star Trek and Kirk the best captain. I don't have an opinion on Bakula but loved the series. We get the finale next Tuesday on Sky and I particularly liked the 2 episodes that took place in an alternate universe: those stories always alow them to get a bit more dark and visceral than the normal, morally over stocked episodes. Tra-la: just an opinion.

        The true price of freedom is war.

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        legalAlien wrote: I actually laughed out loud at this. Yes, I am only extracting urine with my comments and am being deliberatly (where I can be) contentious cos I'm hyper over a rollout that starts in 1 hour. It's nice to have a nice fun thread on CP. This week has been one of the worst in CP history for trolling. Anybody want to start a Star Wars vs Star Trek debate? :-D A single X-Wing could kick the Enterprise's arse. :-D Michael CP Blog [^] Development Blog [^]

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          legalAlien wrote: Have you not watched ST:TNG. Even the bloody name is pretentious twaddle. Look, I'm sure that Patrick Stewart is a very nice chap but if he were my boss I'd want to shove a stick of dynamite up his arse to wipe that smug-git smile off his shiny bald head. Should have killed him at Farpoint and let Riker take charge. At least he has a personality. Yes, I know you can never trust a man with a beard. Picard is the second best Captain in Starfleet after Kirk. He was a little annoying in the first season, where he used the ship's self-destruct more than he fired the phasers. He grew into a very interesting character over the later seasons. Although I still like the alternate Picard from 'Yesterdays Enterprise', where he's fighting a war against the Klingons. Riker was just an annoying, smirking smug git. Mind you if I was shagging Troi, then I think I'd do a little bit of smirking too. (Although personally I preferred Tasha, even though she had a taste for androids ;-) ) Michael CP Blog [^] Development Blog [^]

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          Ouch. Kirk sucked man. Picard out-classed and out-smarted him all the time. That's the difference between a three year season and a seven year one. Hell, even Sisko and Janeway were better than Kirk. :) "If only one person knows the truth, it is still the truth." - Mahatma Gandhi Web - Blog - RSS - Math

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          • S Stan Shannon

            I would nominate the character Tim Allen played in 'Galaxy Quest', or the Harrison Ford character in Blade Runner. "Capitalism is the source of all true freedom."

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            Personally, I prefered Alan Rickman's character. Especially when he was complaining about what a serious type of acter he was. "If only one person knows the truth, it is still the truth." - Mahatma Gandhi Web - Blog - RSS - Math

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              Ouch. Kirk sucked man. Picard out-classed and out-smarted him all the time. That's the difference between a three year season and a seven year one. Hell, even Sisko and Janeway were better than Kirk. :) "If only one person knows the truth, it is still the truth." - Mahatma Gandhi Web - Blog - RSS - Math

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              Bassam Abdul-Baki wrote: Ouch. Kirk sucked man. Picard out-classed and out-smarted him all the time. That's the difference between a three year season and a seven year one. Hell, even Sisko and Janeway were better than Kirk. You may have an arguement that Picard could stand his own against Kirk (although 'Generations' rather muddies that a little), but there is no way in hell that Janeway was better than Kirk. Kirk wouldn't have taken seven years to get home and he wouldn't have had a house-trained Borg on his ship :-D As for Sisko, he was a good guy but in the end he got his head turned by all that Bajoran spiritual crap and it got him killed. Kirk would have saved the day and got the girl :-D Michael CP Blog [^] Development Blog [^]

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              • L legalAlien

                Okay, lots of rancour and argument in the Soapbox. How about a debate on the top ten sci-fi characters (human or, as an alternative, not human). I select the following: 1: Neo: cos he's so far up his own arse he may as well be an alien. 2: Alien: Grrr. 3: Jean-Luc Picard: Pretentious git. 4: Frank Poole: stupid cunt. 5: Adama: who thinks up these names anyway? 6: Gort: Shoulda been in charge :-) 7: Darth Vader: should have let him keep Prowse's voice. 8: Everyone in Solaris (any version): could this have been any more boring... 9: Jodie Foster: wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong. 10: Luke Skywalker: just because he suffers form small-man sydrome.

                The true price of freedom is war.

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                • B Bassam Abdul Baki

                  Personally, I prefered Alan Rickman's character. Especially when he was complaining about what a serious type of acter he was. "If only one person knows the truth, it is still the truth." - Mahatma Gandhi Web - Blog - RSS - Math

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                  He was hilarious - him being such a frustrated serious actor with bits of his heavy make up falling apart as the story progressed, Brilliantly funny. "Capitalism is the source of all true freedom."

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                    legalAlien wrote: 3: Jean-Luc Picard: Pretentious git. Why ? The tigress is here :-D

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                    I refer you to my previous posting: http://www.codeproject.com/script/comments/forums.asp?forumid=2605#xx1178253xx[^] As a character, he is a pretentious turd, kind of like Chirac in space. As an actor he is a twat for even thinking of suing the creators of red dwarf, one of the all time greatest space based programs. I mean, who could forget the cat, and krighton. Excellent stuff! Nunc est bibendum!

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                    • S Stan Shannon

                      legalAlien wrote: Galaxy Quest is the double-dogs bollocks of a film and Tim Allen was excellent in the part. I still laugh each time I see it. Absolutely. It gets no respect, but, in truth, is probably one of the top five best science fiction movies ever made. It is probably my third favorite SF movie - right behind The Day the Earth Stood Still and 2001. (If we are talking true science fiction, that is. Movies like 'Alien' don't count because, while an excellent movie, it was really only a scary monster story, and 'Star Wars' is more sword and socery than true science fiction) "Capitalism is the source of all true freedom."

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                      Oh come on now, without looking at the wealth of films philip k dick spawned! Surely blade runner, total recal, running man? Nunc est bibendum!

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                      • M Michael P Butler

                        Bah. A wishy, washy bunch of pretenders :-D 1. Captain James T Kirk - The Captain of the Enterprise, except no subsititues 2. Buck Rogers (The 70s version) - James Bond in space. Nuff said. 3. Yoda - Small, green and funny looking frog, but will kick your ass if you call him that to his face. 4. Starbuck (The 70s version) - Kicking Cylon arse whilst smoking a cigar - class 5. Avon (From Blakes 7) - You couldn't trust him, but you'd want him on your side. 6. Servalan (again from Blakes 7) - The ultimate in Sci-Fi sex-appeal (at least she was when I was 10) 7. Doctor Who - More faces than Tony Blair but actually helps the people who need it the most 8. Senator Palpatine - runs both sides of a galaxy wide war and nobody figures it out. Genius. 9. Spock - His blood may be green but his best mate is Captain Kirk, so he's alright in my book 10. Princess Leia - Gold Bikini, what more do I have to say :-D Michael CP Blog [^] Development Blog [^]

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                        Men

                        1. Captain Picard or Yoda (for leadership and calmness)
                        2. Data or Spock (for brains)
                        3. Scotty, Geordi or Miles O'Brian (for fixing stuff)
                        4. Worf - ST:TNG/DS9 (To Picard: If you were any other man, I would kill you were you stand.) (Anyone who's willing to kill his Captain must be worth it.)

                        Women

                        1. Seven of Nine - ST:V (All hail the queen).
                        2. Ro Laren - ST:TNG (She had the best female character of all.)
                        3. Borg Queen - ST:TNG (The original who went on to seduce Data.)
                        4. Kes - ST:V (Petite, cute and comes in travelling size.)
                        5. Maya - Space 1999 (The eyes.)
                        6. Jane - V (Jane Badler) (If Freddy Kreuger had a girlfriend, she would be it.)
                        7. Julie - V (Faye Grant) (The doctor is in. Although Dr. Crusher was up there too.)

                        "If only one person knows the truth, it is still the truth." - Mahatma Gandhi Web - Blog - RSS - Math

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                        • L legalAlien

                          Okay, lots of rancour and argument in the Soapbox. How about a debate on the top ten sci-fi characters (human or, as an alternative, not human). I select the following: 1: Neo: cos he's so far up his own arse he may as well be an alien. 2: Alien: Grrr. 3: Jean-Luc Picard: Pretentious git. 4: Frank Poole: stupid cunt. 5: Adama: who thinks up these names anyway? 6: Gort: Shoulda been in charge :-) 7: Darth Vader: should have let him keep Prowse's voice. 8: Everyone in Solaris (any version): could this have been any more boring... 9: Jodie Foster: wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong. 10: Luke Skywalker: just because he suffers form small-man sydrome.

                          The true price of freedom is war.

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                          legalAlien wrote: as an alternative, not human I just keep on seeing those giant insects from the 50's B-movies that were mutated from atomic radiation. I do not mind getting old. It beats all the other options that I can think of.

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                            D'ya know I can't handle this any more. I don't even like you but I keep having to agree with you. Don't you find it just a tad irritating that a tosser like me keeps agreeing with a wanker (compounded because you live in Europe) like you?

                            The true price of freedom is war.

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                            It is getting scary. There I was, pissing everyone off with comments about traders being part of the system that caused the Iraq war, and now, we are agreeing on stuff. Perhaps, if I had posted my comments about the traders a month or two later you might have agreed with me too! Nunc est bibendum!

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                              Bassam Abdul-Baki wrote: Ouch. Kirk sucked man. Picard out-classed and out-smarted him all the time. That's the difference between a three year season and a seven year one. Hell, even Sisko and Janeway were better than Kirk. You may have an arguement that Picard could stand his own against Kirk (although 'Generations' rather muddies that a little), but there is no way in hell that Janeway was better than Kirk. Kirk wouldn't have taken seven years to get home and he wouldn't have had a house-trained Borg on his ship :-D As for Sisko, he was a good guy but in the end he got his head turned by all that Bajoran spiritual crap and it got him killed. Kirk would have saved the day and got the girl :-D Michael CP Blog [^] Development Blog [^]

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                              Bassam Abdul Baki
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                              Actually, Kirk always fired at will and Spock saved the day. So if Kirk somehow managed to find a way back in less than seven years, it would be because of bad acting. Parumpum. :-D As for the house-trained Borg, can you honestly find any fault with that? Resistance is futile. :-D Sisko never died. He turned out to be a half-god and went to live with his other race. Would have been nice to know more about them. But oh well. DS9 was a bit too slow to begin with, but since Worf came on they picked up speed with the Dominion wars. Heard a new movie is in the works before Kirks time centralling on the Romulan wars. "If only one person knows the truth, it is still the truth." - Mahatma Gandhi Web - Blog - RSS - Math

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                                legalAlien wrote: as an alternative, not human I just keep on seeing those giant insects from the 50's B-movies that were mutated from atomic radiation. I do not mind getting old. It beats all the other options that I can think of.

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                                Bassam Abdul Baki
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                                Tremors was my favorite. Especially Michael Gross's character. "If only one person knows the truth, it is still the truth." - Mahatma Gandhi Web - Blog - RSS - Math

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                                  Men

                                  1. Captain Picard or Yoda (for leadership and calmness)
                                  2. Data or Spock (for brains)
                                  3. Scotty, Geordi or Miles O'Brian (for fixing stuff)
                                  4. Worf - ST:TNG/DS9 (To Picard: If you were any other man, I would kill you were you stand.) (Anyone who's willing to kill his Captain must be worth it.)

                                  Women

                                  1. Seven of Nine - ST:V (All hail the queen).
                                  2. Ro Laren - ST:TNG (She had the best female character of all.)
                                  3. Borg Queen - ST:TNG (The original who went on to seduce Data.)
                                  4. Kes - ST:V (Petite, cute and comes in travelling size.)
                                  5. Maya - Space 1999 (The eyes.)
                                  6. Jane - V (Jane Badler) (If Freddy Kreuger had a girlfriend, she would be it.)
                                  7. Julie - V (Faye Grant) (The doctor is in. Although Dr. Crusher was up there too.)

                                  "If only one person knows the truth, it is still the truth." - Mahatma Gandhi Web - Blog - RSS - Math

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                                  Bassam Abdul-Baki wrote: Jane - V (Jane Badler) (If Freddy Kreuger had a girlfriend, she would be it.) Yum. I'd forgotten about Diana. She was wonderfully sexy and evil. A Servalan for the 80's. Michael CP Blog [^] Development Blog [^]

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                                    Oh come on now, without looking at the wealth of films philip k dick spawned! Surely blade runner, total recal, running man? Nunc est bibendum!

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                                    Stan Shannon
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                                    fat_boy wrote: Oh come on now, without looking at the wealth of films philip k dick spawned! I was never a big Dick fan ( :laugh: I can't believe I wrote that, but I bet I'm not the first) Anyway, Blade Runner was done well, it is certainly one of my favorists, but paints such a bleak and non-redeemable future that it kind of leaves me depressed. I like a happy ending. Most of the rest of his stuff just doesn't translate well to the screen, IMO. I didn't like total recall or the running man at all. "Capitalism is the source of all true freedom."

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                                      Okay, lots of rancour and argument in the Soapbox. How about a debate on the top ten sci-fi characters (human or, as an alternative, not human). I select the following: 1: Neo: cos he's so far up his own arse he may as well be an alien. 2: Alien: Grrr. 3: Jean-Luc Picard: Pretentious git. 4: Frank Poole: stupid cunt. 5: Adama: who thinks up these names anyway? 6: Gort: Shoulda been in charge :-) 7: Darth Vader: should have let him keep Prowse's voice. 8: Everyone in Solaris (any version): could this have been any more boring... 9: Jodie Foster: wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong. 10: Luke Skywalker: just because he suffers form small-man sydrome.

                                      The true price of freedom is war.

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                                      Has to be Kirk. There wasn't an alien he couldn't kill or shag or shag then kill.

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                                        Prowse was from the west country. Imagine that, 'may the force be being with you boy' Hmm, no wonder they got a voice over. Nunc est bibendum!

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                                        David Wulff
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                                        I disagree. If he was truely a west country boy he would have said, "may the force be with you my lover". ;P


                                        Ðavid Wulff Audioscrobbler :: flickr Die Freiheit spielt auf allen Geigen (QT)

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                                          It is getting scary. There I was, pissing everyone off with comments about traders being part of the system that caused the Iraq war, and now, we are agreeing on stuff. Perhaps, if I had posted my comments about the traders a month or two later you might have agreed with me too! Nunc est bibendum!

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                                          legalAlien
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                                          fat_boy wrote: Perhaps, if I had posted my comments about the traders a month or two later you might have agreed with me too! Now you're pushing it. ;)

                                          The true price of freedom is war.

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